INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

[Kunal Biswas]

I have added a photo in my previous post for better understanding ..

 

[sayareakd]

1B1 throw out casing 45 degree angle, It does not hit other solider at his side ..

Brass catcher is important to make sure no of rounds fired and also to avoid people ( Army as well as Civilians ) from stealing brass and sell it in market or keep it as personal item, Such measures avoids unnecessary troubles ..

Brass catchers are used in training, Firing ranges and in exercise not in combat ..

I saw American rifles brass hitting their fellow soldiers. Proude of INSAS which has solved the problem.

 

[Shaitan]

@Kunal Biswas

Ordered?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

50,000 - 80, 000 units were ordered by paramilitary during 2012-2014, Army ordered a more advance version equipped with solar cells ..

Information is shared by officials officials at Defexpo 2014..

 

[ghost]

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[WolfPack86]

India Tests New Carbines

The Indian Army is to use a variety of new generation carbines for its existing weaponry. The state-owned Pune-based Armaments Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) is already testing a 5.56 caliber carbine to replace existing Russians carbines. Simultaneously the Indian Army is also searching for carbines in the global market.
ARDE is developing a new Modern Sub-machine Carbine (MSMC), which will replace the Russian 9mm-caliber carbine currently used by the Indian Army and the Indian paramilitary forces.
“Final trials are underway to ensure 99.7% reliability for the new carbine.” said an ARDE scientist. The MSMC is effective up to a range of 200 meters.
However, a senior Indian Army officer said that they would prefer to use carbines from overseas market and not depend solely on the homemade MSMC.
The New MSCMC
The MSMC was originally part of the Indian Small Arms System (INSAS) Program, undertaken by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), initiated in 1982 to provide an indigenous small arms weapons system for the Indian armed forces. A rifle, a light machine gun (LMG) and a carbine were eventually designed as part of the INSAS family.
According to DRDO, introduction of soft-body armour rendered the erstwhile 9 mm carbine, which was operational with the Indian Army, ineffective. This led to the development of the 5.56 mm MSMC.
The problem also lay with the concept of using the same ammunition for all three weapon systems, the LMG, rifle and the carbine. The 5.56 ammunition proved to be too heavy for the short range MSMC, giving a higher recoil and flash effect than was desirable.
The new MSMC features include: a semi bull-pup weapon feed system behind the trigger mechanism, retention of butt, fitted in housing configuration, noise-reduction technology using CFD analysis for development of silencers; reflex sight and passive night sight; and integration of laser spot designator on MSMC for close quarter battle.
Besides, the MSMC has a pistol grip, which allows single-hand firing capability; magazine feeding through pistol grip; retractable butt for better stability while firing; ambidextrous cocking; fire selector to suit left and right hand firers, and, a three-point sling for better carrying and maneuverability.
The ammunition for MSMC is of conventional type with the bullet cylindro-ogival for better ballistics as compared to a 9 mm round. A steel insert has been introduced in the tip of the bullet to achieve better penetration power.
Global Hunt For Carbines
The Indian Army is also on a global hunt for procurement of 43,300 Close Quarter Battle (COB) carbines along with 43318 Night Sights and 3,33,11,500 rounds of ammunition. The tender has been sent to companies in France, Israel, Poland, Czech and Slovak Republic, Russia, Ukraine, Singapore, Germany and the USA.
The essential requirements of the COB include that the weapon should be robust enough to carry enough to withstand, rough uses under various operational conditions. In wet conditions, the weapon should function with the same frequency as dry conditions.
The weapon should achieve minimum 600 rounds per minute cycle rate of fire.
The magazine should be robust enough to withstand rough usage under various operational conditions and have a capacity of 30 rounds.
The weapons should be accurate to the extent that it is able to effectively engage a human target at 200 meters with an aim to fire under normal condition of visibility.
The performance of the weapon should not be adversely affected by extremes of temperature from -30 degrees to +55 degrees Celsius. At these low temperatures, the performance of the weapon should not be degraded by cold weather problems of.
The performance of laser sights/passive night sights and reflex sights should not be affected by the extremes of temperature from -30 degrees Celsius to +55 degrees Celsius.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/01/india-tests-new-carbines.html

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Their are plenty of things wrong with article, though the comment specified by tag of Army senior officer is highly doubtful ..

 

[Hari Sud]

If MSMC carbine succeeds, will India place order for 44,000 close quarter carbines?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Army finds INSAS 1b1 rifles ‘reliable’
shiv aroor Posted: Sep 07, 2005 at 0218 hrs IST new delhi, september 6

Intensive tests on INSAS rifle, the Indian Army’s mainstay, have confirmed its “robustness and reliability” even in “intense operational scenarios.”

The result of the tests, conducted at Mhow between August 18 and 20, would be communicated to Kathmandu, which had complained about the rifle’s “unreliability” and blamed it for the reverses it suffered against the Maoists.

The Army’s Infantry School in Mhow tested 44 INSAS rifles of the Platoon Weapons Division, simulating an “intense operational scenario.” The rifles were put through alternative tests of short-burst firing and single-shot firing.

The report of the tests says the rate of fire and performance during high cyclic load was “acceptable”. A total of 12,237 rounds were fired. The total number of “stoppages” — where rounds get jammed during continuous use — was under one per cent, a vindication of the Army’s stand, since the international norm for small arms is two per cent.

The report says out of 44 rifles, only 15 faced stoppages, and only three more than eight stoppages. Barring the three, the average stoppage was only 0.66 per cent, the report adds.

Apart from stoppages, the test team in Mhow, which included one JCO and four Havildar-rank instructors, encountered “no breakages or defects with the INSAS rifle”, as claimed by the Royal Nepalese Army (RNA). The RNA had complained that the INSAS it used broke down during fighting, which resulted in some of its men falling to the Maoists’ bullets. The rifles were operated for 30 minutes at a stretch, simulating the scenario in which the RNA operates.

Army Chief Gen J J Singh had last month backed the rifle at the Infantry Commanders’ Conference in Mhow.

Source : http://archive.indianexpress.com/oldStory/77704/


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These were first of many 1b1s with modifications based on experience from Kargil War.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

From various operations and patrols at CT areas ..

 

[mayfair]

Heartening to see these pics. I hope this shows that much of the troubles our forces faced with INSAS are behind them and it's performing as well as it was hoped.

 

[Shaitan]

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[Kunal Biswas]

1B1 with zess red dots including LMG ..

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[Ghost68]

1B1 with zess red dots including LMG ..

Are these the new helmets for which deal was recently inked?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Better, Their is dedicated thread for this news

Link : http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/army-combat-helmet-deal-have-been-inked.77334/page-5

Are these the new helmets for which deal was recently inked?

 

[Ghost68]

1B1 with zess red dots including LMG ..

are these zeiss sights becoming standard on insas throughout the army or some troops only?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

These are being issued to specific units in Infantry and Mech Inf, Being tested and adopted during Gen VK Singh reign ..

are these zeiss sights becoming standard on insas throughout the army or some troops only?

 

[ghost]

INSAS

EXCALIBUR

 

[cobra commando]

AR trooper ? with INSAS Excalibur.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

From various CT operations ..