INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

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We should build one AC every 5 years. That way we will master the tech.
More than that, we need to build 1 AIP SSK and 1 SSBN/SSGN/SSN every year for the next 12 yrs!

12 SSK
3 SSN
4 SSGN - Brahmos & Nirbhay
5 SSBN - K4 & K15
 

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we really "Should" do loads of things...but hey..what are we doing?? Buying French diesel submarines which they dont themselves induct and have been developed to sell to 3rd world countries.....

instead of making 6 more Arihant Class submarines..
 

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Hi

I am New to this Forum and no expertise in operation of AC. This may be stupid to ask.. please bear with me.

I see on the placement for the IAC there are planned 2 take of points . is it possible to use it as 3 takeoff points if needed as the space is available on deck

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Im sorry I am unable to post the Pic. BTW the pic was googled and modified. The pic is owned by the original owner just using for representation

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The ship use the new Barak 8 for air defence with the EL/2248 radar?

Also in the draft or 3D model I see the 76/62 with the rounded cupola, no Strales as CIWS?
Those are the four Otobreda 76 mm Super Rapid.

There would be eight AK-630 CIWS as well.

As for missile AD, yes there would be Barak 8.
 
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^^ From these pics, Its hardly looks that those Gun placement for some bigger caliber, But some thing like AK-630..
Those are the mounts for four Otobreda 76 mm Super Rapid.

There would be eight AK-630 CIWS as well in other locations.
 

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Those are for Ak-630 not 76 mm. I don't think Vikrant will carry any 76 mm SRGM.
 

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INS Vikrant to be commissioned by 2017: Naval chief
Press Trust of India, 23 November 2013

EZHIMALA (KANNUR): India's first indigenous Aircraft carrier INS Vikrant, being built at public sector Cochin Shipyard Limited and formally launched in August this year, would be commissioned by 2017, chief of Naval Staff Admiral D K Joshi, said here on Saturday.

"With the commissioning of INS Vikrant India will join an elite club of nations with the capability of designing and building aircraft carrier indigenously. There are not many countries in the world to construct their own aircraft carriers," he said.

Joshi was speaking to mediapersons on the sidelines of the passing out parade at Indian Naval Academy at Ezhimala in Kannur district.

To a query on the delay in the project to build Scorpene submarines at Mumbai, Admiral Joshi said India would construct the navy's first scorpene-class submarine with French collaboration and they should be in service by 2015 or so.

"The delay has been resolved and construction work of the submarine is on fast track now," he said.

On maritime challenges, he said utmost priority was being given to coastal security after the 26/11 terror attack. Navy has been given overall coordination of maritime and coastal security involving several agencies, including Coast Guard.

The infrastructure situation has also improved with coastal police stations acquiring patrol boats, fast interceptor boats and a radar chain has also been set up all along the coastline, he said.

Admiral Joshi pointed out that the Navy had been fully engaged in anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden for the past several years and added they had even sunk the 'mother ship' of Somali pirates who came near Lakshadweep islands.
 

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Rule 1 of interpreting deadlines in MoD: Deadlines are the deadlines to announce the next set of deadline.

We will be lucky to have the ship moving on its own power in 2017, even luckier to have it on sea trials..
Lets not think about induction or commission for now
 

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Rule 1 of interpreting deadlines in MoD: Deadlines are the deadlines to announce the next set of deadline.

We will be lucky to have the ship moving on its own power in 2017, even luckier to have it on sea trials..
Lets not think about induction or commission for now
But still they should try to complete Vikrant by end of 2016. Then India can have three aircraft carriers in service (INS Vikrant, INS Viraat & INS Vikramaditya).
 

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Strong as the Sun: Vikramaditya is like no other ship Indian Navy ever had


In July this year, an old game played out in the Barents Sea — a new warship undergoing exhaustive trials by Russian shipbuilders prior to her induction, being shadowed by NATO ships keen to understand what it would be capable of. During the several weeks that the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier underwent trials, a Norwegian NATO intelligence vessel kept company, steadily building up an electronic dossier.

This was a follow-up to last year when a NATO maritime surveillance aircraft heavily buzzed the same ship, dropping buoys to pick up an acoustic profile.

The game is not just old, it is one that Vikramaditya

has played in an earlier avatar — as Soviet aircraft cruiser Baku, patrolling the Mediterranean in the late 1980s. However, the intense interest in Vikramaditya — whose name literally translates as Strong as the Sun — now comes from the extensive refit and modernisation it has gone through.

For a Navy that is proud of its legacy of operating aircraft carriers, the Vikramaditya is like no other ship it has had in the fleet before. It is the Navy's biggest ship for one — surpassing INS Viraat by 10,000 tonnes — and one of the most potent aircraft carriers in this side of the world, in fact the first 'new' ship of its class to be based in the Indian Ocean in over two decades. While India had to acquire older technology often in the past due to non-willingness of nations to share strategic assets, the Vikramaditya with its MiG-29K fighters is top of its game.

With the ship likely to reach its home base of Karwar in January, preparations have been made to ensure that it is operationalised at the earliest. As things stand, it is coming without any fighters on board, with only a small chopper complement for utility missions. The plan is to start the first landings and take-offs of the fighters on board within two-three weeks of Vikramaditya reaching India.

At present, Indian pilots are training on simulators to operate from the confines of the small flight deck. A shore-based facility in Goa, where the fighter squadrons will be based, is set to start training MiG-29K pilots on landing and taking off from the carrier.

Part of the training will be conducted during the journey of the carrier from Russia, which is expected to take four to five weeks. The 183 Russian personnel on duty will not only help operate the ship but also train the 1,600-odd Indian sailors on board. Strategies and operational tactics to exploit the platform are already being worked on and will be fine-tuned as the ship's characteristics are revealed in internal trials and war games.

"The plan is to start operations as soon as possible. Certification of both pilots and air controllers has to be done before the ship can formally join the fleet," an aviation officer said.

After it sets sail from Severodvinsk, the Vikramaditya will be met by INS Deepak — a tanker ship — near Murmansk. Tailing the aircraft carrier will be a Talwar class frigate, fully geared for deployment in icy waters. Additional ships, including a Delhi-class destroyer, will join the convoy near Gibraltar. From here, one of the two options to come home will be decided — the route through the Suez or going around the continent of Africa. While clearances from the Suez canal authorities have not been obtained yet, the Navy has been trying to get permission to use this shorter route home.

India's first aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant, a Majestic-class ship, was acquired from the UK and commissioned on March 4, 1961. The second, INS Viraat, a Centaur-class carrier, came into service more than two decades later, in 1987. Negotiations for acquiring the 44,500-tonne Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier, now Vikramaditya, started in 1994 after the ship was put up on offer by Russia.

After prolonged negotiations, the contract was inked in January 2004 and the cost was agreed at Rs 4,881.67 crore for the ship, spares, infrastructure augmentation and documentation. As per the contract, it was scheduled to be completed within 52 weeks at the Sevmash shipyard.

However, once the work began, it was realised that the scope of the project would have to be increased tremendously as parts after parts were found to be malfunctioning and needing replacement. Additional costs were agreed to in December 2009, with the ship to be delivered in 2012. The cost doubled to more than US $2.3 billion by then. A final hiccup occurred in 2012 when the boilers malfunctioned during high-speed trials, putting off the delivery date finally to November 2013.

As part of the offer to India, the Gorshkov was to be converted from a carrier designed to operate VTOL aircraft to a STOBAR (Short take off but arrested recovery) class of carriers. This involved massive redesign and modifications, including changing the flight deck to include a ski-jump and arrester gear. The changes performed were mind-boggling due to the scale of the warship — 1,950 of the 2,500 compartments were modified, for one.

To accommodate the MiG-29K fighters, the mainstay weapon of the ship, a new 14-degree ski-jump was set up.

The ship finally managed to sail in 2012, after a gap of 17 years.


Strong as the Sun: Vikramaditya is like no other ship Indian Navy ever had | idrw.org
 

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Published on Nov 17, 2013

INS Vikrant is the first aircraft carrier to be designed by the Directorate of Naval Design of the Indian Navy and the first warship to be built by Cochin Shipyard. Its construction involved participation of a large number of private and public firms. The keel for Vikrant was laid by Defence Minister A.K. Antony at the Cochin Shipyard on 28 February 2009. Will be inducted in 2018 to Indian Navy. Than india will be second nation to have 3 or more Aircraft Carriers after USA. USA have 12 Aircraft Carriers in operating.
 
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Published on Nov 17, 2013

INS Vikrant is the first aircraft carrier to be designed by the Directorate of Naval Design of the Indian Navy and the first warship to be built by Cochin Shipyard. Its construction involved participation of a large number of private and public firms. The keel for Vikrant was laid by Defence Minister A.K. Antony at the Cochin Shipyard on 28 February 2009. Will be inducted in 2018 to Indian Navy. Than india will be second nation to have 3 or more Aircraft Carriers after USA. USA have 12 Aircraft Carriers in operating.
Does anybody have the estimated flight deck and hanger deck area of the INS Vikrant?

I ask this because it is understood that the INS Vikrant being built right from the ground up as a Carrier should have a larger deck area than the converted cruiser INS Vikramaditya. The question is by how much.

If the total deck area reaches anywhere near 15,000 sq m, by my understanding we could field a fleet comparable to the QE class at 60% of the tonnage, which is huge.
 
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Published on Nov 17, 2013

INS Vikrant is the first aircraft carrier to be designed by the Directorate of Naval Design of the Indian Navy and the first warship to be built by Cochin Shipyard. Its construction involved participation of a large number of private and public firms. The keel for Vikrant was laid by Defence Minister A.K. Antony at the Cochin Shipyard on 28 February 2009. Will be inducted in 2018 to Indian Navy. Than india will be second nation to have 3 or more Aircraft Carriers after USA. USA have 12 Aircraft Carriers in operating.

cant they just make a representation with Naval Tejas? :/
 
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We still need proper official specs to decide its accurate size ..

Though its bigger than Vikramaditya ..
 

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