INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

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I wonder how many aircraft do we expect on board our proposed 67,000 ton IAC. Would it be capable of launching something like a HawkEye?
IAC-1 will house max 40 planes of different kinds. IAC-2 (67,000 tons) will maybe equipped with maybe 55-60 fighters.

Yeah IAC-2 will have AWACS complement & even Growler like dedicated EW fighters! :)

Masshallah! 2020 we will have three carriers fully loaded, making neighbors to p*ss in fear......
 
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One simple question about super-duper F-35 (naval), what is aircraft faces some technical problem in engine? where will it land? Indian ocean or Pacific ocean??
 

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One simple question about super-duper F-35 (naval), what is aircraft faces some technical problem in engine? where will it land? Indian ocean or Pacific ocean??
My Friend lets drop the topic about F-35b/c, last two pages are full of it unnecessarily..
Vikramaitya / IAC-1 are booked for MIG-29K/NLCA..
 

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Vikrant-class Indigenous Aircraft Carrier Design
In March 2004 Defence Minister George Fernandes said that the Indian navy will likely induct its first indigenously built aircraft carrier in 2011. Furthermore, by August 2004, both Defense News and Jane's Defence Weekly were reporting that the Indian Ministry of Defence had awarded a $30 million contract to Fincantieri's Naval Vessel Business Unit to help prepare the concept, design, and implementation plans for the vessel. The Italian company was awarded the contract over DCN International of France, who had originally won the contract for the design study in 1989, and Izac Construcciones Navales of Spain.

Fincantieri, through its Naval Vessel Business Unit, signed two contracts with the Indian shipyard of Cochin; the contracts relate to design and assistance during the construction of a new aircraft carrier, the "Air Defence Ship", for the Indian Navy. One of the most important players in the Indian shipbuilding industry, Cochin shipyard is active in the field of merchant and naval shipbuilding as well as ship conversions and repairs.

The first contract covered assessment of the entire ship's design and responsibility for "propulsion system integration" in addition to providing assistance to the shipyard during installation of the engines and during the successive phase of tests of integration and sea trials. During the development of the design a team of officers of the Indian Navy and engineering experts from Cochin shipyard will work in Italy together with Fincantieri technical staff at the headquarters of the Naval Vessel Business Unit.

The second contract regarded the supply of the engineering and detailed design of the ancillary propulsion systems and the ship's main plants. Again, Fincantieri will provide the shipyard with assistance while construction is in progress and during tests and trials. The two contracts were expected to cover approximately 2 years, although assistance will continue until the trials and delivery have taken place - scheduled to occur by the end of this decade.

As of 2004, the most recent design had SAMs in VLS (Vertical Launch System) cells mounted on sponsons on either beam - the port side is to the aft of the ship while the starboard sponson is to the fore of the ship. Four OTO Melera 76mm Super Rapid dual purpose guns are mounted symmetrically on sponsons along the flight deck- two on the fore section and two at the fantail (stern). Preliminary sensor fit appears to show a Top Plate 3D radar on the mainmast and a large 3D radar antennae of a yet undetermined type, along with the usual SATCOM and Electronic Warfare antennae.

This last design iteration showed much influence from the Italian Andrea Dorea Class carrier (currently known as the Cavour Class) in that there was much sloping of the superstructure and ship sides. The vessel will be powered by four HAL-built General Electric LM 2500 gas turbines driving 2 shafts. With a 12 to 14º ski-jump, the carrier has a STOBAR (Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery) arrangement on an angled flight deck with 2 aircraft elevators - one before the island and one after. In the STOBAR arrangement, the aircraft lands on the angled-flight deck and is stopped by arrester wires. The air group was projected to consist of at least 12 - and possibly 24 - combat aircraft like the MiG-29K, Sea Harrier and Naval LCA along with 10 or so helicopters of the Sea King Mk.42 and/or the HAL Dhruv. Two Ka-31 helicopters would provide airborne early warning coverage.

This ship can carry a maximum of 30 aircraft and 17 of these can be accommodated in the hangar. The ship will have two runways and a landing strip with three arrester wires. The ship has a length of 252 m, maximum breadth of 58m. draft of 8.4m and a depth of 25.6m. The ship will be propelled by four LM2500 gas turbines generating a total power of 80 MW (120,000HP approximately) thereby enabling the ship to do a maximum speed of 28 knots. The ship will have an endurance of 7,500 nautical miles at 18 knots and the logistic endurance of 45 days.

This 252 meter-long ship, displacing over 37,500 tons, will be capable of operating a formidable array of 20 modern fighter aircraft of the MiG-29K, LCA (Navy) and See Harrier Genre and upto to 10 helicopters of different types Its 2.5 acre flight deck, with a maximum width of 58 meters, will enable launch of fighter aircraft using ski-jump for take off and arrester wire for landing on an angled deck. Powered by four LM 2500 gas turbines, generating 80 MW of power, the ship will be able to achieve speeds in excess of 28 knots. Manned by a complement of 1,600 officers and men, she will have an endurance of 7500 nautical miles She will be the first warship to be built with quality steel, developed in India by DRDO and SAIL.

About 260 m long and 60 m wide, the IAC will have the capability to operate "a mix of aircraft," including Russian MiG-29K fighters and Ka-31 combat helicopters, as well as domestically made light combat aircraft (LCA). The ministry said that the ship would be propelled by two LM2500 gas turbines developing a total power of 80 MW, sufficient to attain speeds up to 28 knots. It will have an endurance of around 8,000 NM and a crew of 1,600. The IAC, with two takeoff runways and one landing strip with 3 arrester wires, can carry up to 30 aircraft
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/india/r-vikrant-2.htm
 

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@Crusader53,
India is also very much interested in Naval FGFA and other fighters in option for IAC-2, Nothing is for sure, so their is no 100% surety abt F-35 in IN!

Kunal Biswas.

Nor, is it 100% that India will procure any Naval PAK-FA. Which, is to large to operate effectively from the IAC-2 let alone the smaller IAC-1.
 

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IN had also shown interest in US navy carrier , but did it buy that carrier ? no it didnt , just merely showing interest is not going to buy that product

True, yet interest in anything US is discounted out of hand. Yet, if it come from Russia it is fact........


Fact the NAVAL PAK-FA is not under contract nor funded at this stage. Unless, you care to provide a source.....I am all ears!


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True, yet interest in anything US is discounted out of hand. Yet, if it come from Russia it is fact........


Fact the NAVAL PAK-FA is not under contract nor funded at this stage. Unless, you care to provide a source.....I am all ears!


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Crusader53
because Russian weapons comes without any strings ,it comes also with the source codes , do f-35 will come with radar source codes ? i think not
 

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because Russian weapons comes without any strings ,it comes also with the source codes , do f-35 will come with radar source codes ? i think not
Everything comes with strings including Russian Equipment. That said, if you purchase something with little or no strings. Is it worth it if it's inferior.........
 

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Everything comes with strings including Russian Equipment. That said, if you purchase something with little or no strings. Is it worth it if it's inferior.........
why says its inferior ? and plus russian weapons are cheap and if they do come with strings attached then IAF has no problem but yankee weapons IAF does
 

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Nor, is it 100% that India will procure any Naval PAK-FA. Which, is to large to operate effectively from the IAC-2 let alone the smaller IAC-1.
We have discussed this before, though FGFA will be Indian made so it have some higher chance but not 100%, therefore Nor the NFGFA and F-35 have 100% surety on IN carrier..
 

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No idea if we will go for N-FGFA or N-MCA in the future. N-MCA will be used for sure, whenever it comes out.

However, they will not be used on IAC-2 or IAC-3. They may be used on later carriers. It will be the Mig-29ks and LCA for IAC-1,2,3.
 

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Nor, is it 100% that India will procure any Naval PAK-FA. Which, is to large to operate effectively from the IAC-2 let alone the smaller IAC-1.
True, yet interest in anything US is discounted out of hand. Yet, if it come from Russia it is fact........


Fact the NAVAL PAK-FA is not under contract nor funded at this stage. Unless, you care to provide a source.....I am all ears!


Respectfully,

Crusader53
Everything comes with strings including Russian Equipment. That said, if you purchase something with little or no strings. Is it worth it if it's inferior.........
Can you please stop speculation & aggressive wasted marketing of F35 on IAC-1 or IAC-2 unless some proofs you can present?

In future, IN/MOD will be relying on home-made toys. That is the whole purpose of starting indigenous AC construction efforts. Desi or JV fighters will be flying off from these carriers. 5 years down the line, one can forget about India just purchasing foreign fighters. It'll be JV or home construction fighters with licensees. Its no 1980-90. Wake up! Entire weapons procurement policy is based on these solid facts & will be observed hereafter. Now any weapons fitting these policy structure will be considered for procurement. Weapons/Fighters not fulfilling these terms can forget the Indian deals.
 

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Can you please stop speculation & aggressive wasted marketing of F35 on IAC-1 or IAC-2 unless some proofs you can present?

In future, IN/MOD will be relying on home-made toys. That is the whole purpose of starting indigenous AC construction efforts. Desi or JV fighters will be flying off from these carriers. 5 years down the line, one can forget about India just purchasing foreign fighters. It'll be JV or home construction fighters with licensees. Its no 1980-90. Wake up! Entire weapons procurement policy is based on these solid facts & will be observed hereafter. Now any weapons fitting these policy structure will be considered for procurement. Weapons/Fighters not fulfilling these terms can forget the Indian deals.
It will be interesting to hear your response when the Super Hornet wins the IAF MMRCA and the IN selects the F-35......


Just my opinion.....Nonetheless, I drop the subject for now.=heheh
 

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why says its inferior ? and plus russian weapons are cheap and if they do come with strings attached then IAF has no problem but yankee weapons IAF does

Funny, the IAF has recently purchased "brand new" P-8I's, C-130's, and C-17's! Sorry, doesn't sound like the IAF has problems with US Hardware at all to me.........Plus, the Indian Navy as just made a request for a New AEW for its forth coming IAC-2 Carriers. Which, considering the Hawkeye is the only reasonable option. India is "likely" to purchase it!


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Not to change the subject. What is the best option for the Indian Navy in regards to the IAC-2.

1.) Develop the IAC-2 by itself?

2.) Develop the IAC-2 with outside assistance?

3.) Purchase a off shelf Design like the CVF and construct it in India???
 

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Not to change the subject. What is the best option for the Indian Navy in regards to the IAC-2.

1.) Develop the IAC-2 by itself?

2.) Develop the IAC-2 with outside assistance?

3.) Purchase a off shelf Design like the CVF and construct it in India???
the third option is ruled out ,although it makes perfect sense , second option is definitely in probably with the help of France and Russia
 

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