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The reason behind such decision, IMHO, is not based on the questions of gender inequalieis and equalities.

It rather is a function or outcome of present and future population pyramids of the USA and Western world. They are required to maintain cartain Force Levels to dominate the world militarily. Their population is againg and the young male population is not suffcient to subscribe to the numbers of the required Forces. They can do it but at the cost of their males members not being in other important jobs in numbers that they require such as technological and managerial positions or on production lines.

So what are the options available to a society such as USA ?

First is cut down the Force level and lose military dominance of the world. UK is doing it. USA can never think of that.

Secondly, outsource this soldiering and fill their Armies with Indians, Bangladeshies and Pakistanies. In order to man the Armed Forces, this a risky and dangerious root. No empires have sustained on slave armies.

Third and the best option is to keep the jobs in house and offer some of those to young females. Todays war fighting are technology driven and less of Afghanistan style which could be avoided in future. Hence fill the slotswith young American females who would be better than a Pakistani male slave soldier.

This is going to happen to most of the European countries and may be to China of 2050 as the present Force level will be unsustainable for their aging populations. If PLA manitains its present force level, by 2050 half of the force would be women.

We Indians should not jump the gun and for the love of gender equality, push our women into combat role. There are jobs they can do. We need to concentrate to save our ways of Family rather than push wives into battles since with our population we can afford that
 
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@jackprince

you have never been to KSA hence you don't know the realities

the opportunities and great life the saudi womens enjoy i dont think Indian women might enjoy such life even in 3013


I have seen Dukhtarane Millat !
Your kind are also very forward looking..
 
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Dude. If you actually believed in dharmic and other such stuff you post here, you would stop considering women as something to be " protected"
You don't want to sound like people who treat their women the same way they treat their gold chain do you?
By all means, let the women go to war. No one is stopping them or can stop them. The State should, however not support this. Not everyone is cut out for everything. Nature doesn't work like that. Even in battle, not every man is allowed to fight. Only the men who fulfill all physical criteria are allowed to represent their nations officially. Why should the case be any different for women? Only a hypocrite would support pushing women into combat roles by allowing them to qualify with lesser physical standards. So if you are talking of Dharma, isn't it injustice then, to disallow a limp from joining the army?
Stop being a hypocrite.
 

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I still remember a little about 100 lb female marine in Argentina, when we would go out bar hopping, she was allways looking a fight and I was twice her size and did not want to take her on.
 

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I don't seen anything wrong, if the women meets the minimum required criteria. But it should be completely voluntary, as in the women must be asked if they are willing to join the frontline units. A man bleed same as the woman, and a woman pulling trigger kills same as a man pulling trigger.
 

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By all means, let the women go to war. No one is stopping them or can stop them. The State should, however not support this. Not everyone is cut out for everything. Nature doesn't work like that. Even in battle, not every man is allowed to fight. Only the men who fulfill all physical criteria are allowed to represent their nations officially. Why should the case be any different for women? Only a hypocrite would support pushing women into combat roles by allowing them to qualify with lesser physical standards. So if you are talking of Dharma, isn't it injustice then, to disallow a limp from joining the army?
Stop being a hypocrite.
Here's How the Military Will Finally Accept (Most) Women in Combat

As of Thursday afternoon, by act of Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the 1994 Direct Combat Exclusion Rule for women is no more. But it won't be gone gone until 2016. Between now and then, the services will present plans for gender integration, due May 15, and then gradually integrate women into combat occupations — as well as assess which tasks they're going to keep all-male.
For the next several months, and particularly over the summer, the services will reevaluate the standards they have in place for these combat positions, particularly the physical-fitness standards. A host of Defense Department officials swore to reporters on Thursday morning at the Pentagon that they'll neither lower physical-fitness standards nor establish different standards by gender, something they say would violate federal law, anyway.
Source: Wired (Danger Room)

If this is true, then I'm okay with it.
Also a study needs to be done on how presence of female members will affect the camaraderie between male soldiers.
 

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The reason behind such decision, IMHO, is not based on the questions of gender inequalieis and equalities.

It rather is a function or outcome of present and future population pyramids of the USA and Western world. They are required to maintain cartain Force Levels to dominate the world militarily. Their population is againg and the young male population is not suffcient to subscribe to the numbers of the required Forces. They can do it but at the cost of their males members not being in other important jobs in numbers that they require such as technological and managerial positions or on production lines.

So what are the options available to a society such as USA ?

First is cut down the Force level and lose military dominance of the world. UK is doing it. USA can never think of that.

Secondly, outsource this soldiering and fill their Armies with Indians, Bangladeshies and Pakistanies. In order to man the Armed Forces, this a risky and dangerious root. No empires have sustained on slave armies.

Third and the best option is to keep the jobs in house and offer some of those to young females. Todays war fighting are technology driven and less of Afghanistan style which could be avoided in future. Hence fill the slotswith young American females who would be better than a Pakistani male slave soldier.

This is going to happen to most of the European countries and may be to China of 2050 as the present Force level will be unsustainable for their aging populations. If PLA manitains its present force level, by 2050 half of the force would be women.

We Indians should not jump the gun and for the love of gender equality, push our women into combat role. There are jobs they can do. We need to concentrate to save our ways of Family rather than push wives into battles since with our population we can afford that
Thats a bunch of hog wash,,, in the USA is equal rights pure and simple. That women are entitled to any job the are qualified to handle....it has nothing to do with the need for more people.
 

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Thats a bunch of hog wash,,, in the USA is equal rights pure and simple. That women are entitled to any job the are qualified to handle....it has nothing to do with the need for more people.
Leon Panetta's puffery on the topic is lamentable, and he basically implied what is bolded in your quote: women will multiply the combat force. It telegraphs weakness to America's enemies.
 

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Leon Panetta's puffery on the topic is lamentable, and he basically implied what is bolded in your quote: women will multiply the combat force. It telegraphs weakness to America's enemies.
Thats fine, allways like the enemy to underestimate americans.
 

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Next question: Must women register for the draft? - Kate Brannen - POLITICO.com

For as long as women have been excluded from combat, they've also been exempt from having to register for the Selective Service System, the database kept just in case all hell breaks loose and the U.S. must reintroduce the draft. But now that women are being admitted into combat units, the justification for making only young men register is on shaky ground.

"It would seem a little strange to have nearly every job in the military open to women and not also require them to register for Selective Service," said David McKean, legal director at the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network.
 

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The Feminist Assault on the Military
[Editor's note: With the Pentagon's recent elimination of the ban against women serving in combat, Frontpage editors have deemed it important to reprint an article written by David Horowitz twenty years ago that now, for obvious reasons, proves extremely relevant to the issue at hand. [David Horowitz, "The Feminist Assault on the Military," Center for the Study of Popular Culture, October 5, 1992.]
 
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