Indian Ocean Developments

[JAISWAL]

Australia to counter India, China in Indian Ocean

Oz to counter India, China in Indian Ocean
PTI | 07:06 PM,Jun 22,2011



From Natasha Chaku Melbourne, June 22 (PTI) Australia today stepped up efforts to counter naval supremacy of India and China in the Indian Ocean as the strategic region gains importance as a seaway for oil shipped from the Middle East to Asia. Australian defence minister Stephen Smith announced that Canberra will undertake a Force Posture Review to assess whether Australian Defence Force (ADF) is correctly geographically positioned to meet Australia''s modern and future strategic and security challenges.
Australia is reviewing the deployment of its military in response to a buildup in Asian countries such as China and India and the growing need to protect its natural gas resources off its northwest coast.


"All we ask in terms of a growth of military capacity is that one is transparent as to its strategic intentions," Smith told reporters. India and China are rapidly boosting their militaries, and Australia expects world powers will vie for naval supremacy in the Indian Ocean as it gains importance as a seaway for oil shipped from the Middle East to Asia. The review will be undertaken by Department of Defence and overseen by an expert panel made up of two renowned Australian national security specialists Allan Hawke and Ric Smith.



The results of the Review and the views of the Expert Panel will help provide a strategic context for the next scheduled Defence White Paper in the first quarter of 2014.According to official statement, the review will address the range of present and emerging global, regional and national strategic and security factors which require careful consideration for the future, including the rise of the Asia-Pacific as a region of global strategic significance. PTI


http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/oz-to-counter-india-china-in-indian-ocean/734409.html]Oz to counter India, China in Indian Ocean, IBN Live News

 

[JAISWAL]

PROTECTING Australia's energy reserves and forming closer defence ties with the US are behind a major review of the nation's military bases.
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The minister said Australia's vast northwest oil
and gas reserves would need protecting, and
while he didn't name names, the move north
would be aimed at China and India and their rapid
military expansion.
"We are confident that China will emerge as ... a
responsible stakeholder, as the Chinese would
say, into a harmonious environment," Mr Smith
said.
"It's not just the growth of China, it's the growth
of India, which continues to be
underappreciated."
The announcement came as the US Government
revealed it would send its biggest-ever contingent
of nine ships and submarines - including an
aircraft carrier, 135 war planes and 14,000 military
personnel - to northern Australia next month for
exercise Talisman Sabre.
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Australia's defence forces consider major shake-up, including relocation of barracks and closer US ties | Courier Mail

 

[civfanatic]

Australian Defence Forces are nothing but a token force. In case of actual hostilities, they will go running to Uncle Sam, just like in WWII.

 

[bhramos]

Australian Defence Forces are nothing but a token force. In case of actual hostilities, they will go running to Uncle Sam, just like in WWII.

they are piss**g off seeing Indian and Chinese navies growth..
back in 2000's Oz was the first country to oppose IN getting the Akulla-II and Tu-22M Backfires.....

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Not a single submarine seaworthy | The Australian

Not a single submarine seaworthy


FOR the first time in a generation, Australia does not have a single submarine available to defend the nation today.

The Australian understands the entire fleet of six Collins-class submarines cannot be put to sea despite the navy's claim that two of them remain officially "operational".

The situation is so dire the navy is believed to have deferred major scheduled maintenance work on its most seaworthy submarine, HMAS Waller, in the hope that at least one submarine will be available in the coming weeks.

Not having a single task-ready submarine is an embarrassment for the navy, whose attempts to improve the performance of the $10 billion fleet have been stymied by breakdowns, accidents and the growing unreliability of the ageing vessels.

The navy claims two of its submarines, HMAS Waller and HMAS Dechaineux, are available, but insiders say the reality is that neither vessel could be put to sea today if required because each is undergoing detailed inspections for mechanical problems.

HMAS Dechaineux is in dock at HMAS Stirling in Perth for an intrusive inspection of its main motor after limping home from Singapore, where defects were found in its propulsion system.

It is understood Dechaineux will be unable to sail for at least several weeks.

HMAS Waller is also in dock at HMAS Stirling after engineers found signs of the same propulsion system problems that last month forced Dechaineux to withdraw from a five-nation defence exercise in the South China Sea.

It is understood that HMAS Waller will be unable to leave port until next week.

The other four subs are unavailable. HMAS Farncomb is out of the water at the submarine repair facility at Henderson near Perth as workers seek to replace a broken emergency propulsion unit.

HMAS Collins is undergoing scheduled maintenance at Henderson and is due out later this month, while HMAS Sheean and HMAS Rankin are both in long-term maintenance at the Australian Submarine Corporation in Adelaide.

The navy's plans to improve the reliability of the fleet are being undermined by the discovery of unexpected defects, especially with the propulsion system, as the submarines begin to age.

There is also a shortage of spare parts.

The navy has become increasingly evasive about the state of its submarine fleet and is restricting its public comments on the issue, citing national security.

However, critics say the navy has in the past been open about the availability of its submarines and that it is hiding behind claims of national security to avoid public scrutiny.

Defence declined to answer detailed questions from The Australian about submarine availability, saying only that two boats were in deep maintenance, two were in mid-level maintenance and two "are in the water in Western Australia".

The Australian understands HMAS Waller was originally scheduled to begin a mid-cycle docking maintenance for 12 months today, but that the navy has now deferred this plan for several months because so many other boats are out of action.

Opposition defence spokesman David Johnston criticised navy chiefs for being evasive about submarine availability during Senate estimates hearings in Canberra last week.

 

[roma]

most of the oz were "transported" from certain branches of society , not the cream for sure - sometime i wonder if in the transportation , they left the grey matter behind, assuming it was there in the first place.

 

[utubekhiladi]

Welcome to the elite club australia, join the mess

 

[Koovie]

why are they fearing us????? we havent done anything to them

 

[pmaitra]

^^ Recall the snub ex Oz PM Howard got from a bunch of countries including India?

Attacks on Indians in Australia isn't helping either.

This may be senseless, but it does fit the trend.

 

[JAISWAL]

i think they are getting restless and irritated as IN and PLN grew wide and strong in the region, which OZ considers there backyard.
Few years ago they are the strongest navy in the reason and a first world country , now there naval capacity is down to minimum, this is a big set-back for their EGO.
And thats why they are so pis**d at IN and PLN 's growth.

 

[Phenom]

It fits in well with Australian history. Australians always had a fear that the Asians may overwhelm them, usually the fear was about Indonesia, since India and China were too far away and not powerful enough to be a threat. But now that both the nations are expanding their military especially their navies, the Australians are getting jitters.

Overall in the next two decades Indian ocean would be an eventful place.

 

[sandeepdg]

i think they are getting restless and irritated as IN and PLN grew wide and strong in the region, which OZ considers there backyard.
Few years ago they are the strongest navy in the reason and a first world country , now there naval capacity is down to minimum, this is a big set-back for their EGO.
And thats why they are so pis**d at IN and PLN 's growth.

Well, Indian ocean being their backyard was their dream which vanished with passing time. Now they are scared than Indians and Chinese may grab their oil and gas fields and hence they are loosing their sleep over it. Hell, they will piss in their pants even if we sent a stealth frigate and sub on patrol near their territorial waters.

 

[JBH22]

Unless they ask Uncle Sam to set up permanent base there the ozzies have nothing to match China or India at best they can take on Indonesia,Philippines or Fiji gone are the days colonial might is history now

 

[debasree]

this is the biggest joke of the year,the australians not even able to defend their own country without outside help,and they counter in and pln in indian ocean ,the alchohol level was running high with mr, smith when he spell out those word .

 

[bhramos]

this is the biggest joke of the year,the australians not even able to defend their own country without outside help,and they counter in and pln in indian ocean ,the alchohol level was running high with mr, smith when he spell out those word .

their worst nightmare is Su-30 MK versions, check ausairpower, any other Oz sites,
Fist of all why was this thread posted in IA Forum, please change it to related forum..

 

[Virendra]

most of the oz were "transported" from certain branches of the irish society , not the cream for sure - sometime i wonder if in the transportation , they left the grey matter behind, assuming it was there in the first place.

Ouch .. that was racist

 

[Zebra]

their worst nightmare is Su-30 MK versions, check ausairpower, any other Oz sites,
Fist of all why was this thread posted in IA Forum, please change it to related forum..

Su 30 makes a lot more effect . But not only MKI .
Please keep in mind Liberal Party of Australia always try to keep good relation with India . The problem is Australian Labour Party , which supports China .

But after SH F18 and F 16 got rejected from India - Ashley J. Tellis (MRCA - Dog fight hero ) give the (so called super power and Important Role In UN ) lollipop to Australia .

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Its sad Auz thinks we are its enemies to counter them in the first place!!

 

[ace009]

their worst nightmare is Su-30 MK versions, check ausairpower, any other Oz sites,
Fist of all why was this thread posted in IA Forum, please change it to related forum..

Ausairpower is NOT the most dependable sites. They are NOT representative of the Aus defence industry, the Aus government, the Aus military or for that matter Aus public - most of whom don't give a s**t about Su-30s ...
Why is this forum so obsessed with Ausairpower, I have no idea. They are a bunch of wannabes among defence analysts even inside Australia. Just because they have a striking name does not mean they are an authority in anything.

 

[sob]

this is just a way for getting more funds for the Australian Navy. Everybody knows that for the next decade at least neither IN nor the Chinese Navy would have the capability of going all the way to Australia " to attack them"