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Nato name typhoon = russian name Akula (largest sub)
Natoname Akula = russian name Shchuka( nerpa)
 

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Akula means Shark in Russian. And Ambassador means Nerpa as he must be aware of our media...
 

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satish please read my post, somehow I am feeling it is pointing towards typhoon (akula) not nerpa as this is SSBN nerpa is primarily SSN
 

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the ambassador most probably meant akula II which is known as Щука-Б or nepra in russian

moreover i dont think russia is producing the typhoon anymore because out of the 6 typhoons only 2 are in active service

the new russian ssbn are of the borei class which is to undergo seatrials soon
 

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so does it points towds Arihat having displacement in range of 9-12k tons? I am getting happier :D
 

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Isn't Nato code name for shucka subs is akula and akula class subs is typhoon. So does the ambessador is pointing towards we got typhoon class subs?
Akula class is not the same as the Typhoon class. Akula is a SSN with a max displacement of 9000tons. Typhoon displacement is greater than 40000tons.
 

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Sagarika has max range of 700km with 1000kg warhead, it has max. range of 2200 km with a 150kg warhead. depends on the kinda of target we need to hit, we can adjust the fire power.
That's impossible. The figures you see in the internet is only theoretical. It's not practically possible. The fuel will be burnt up completely by the time it reaches its max range of 700km.
 

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Akula class is not the same as the Typhoon class. Akula is a SSN with a max displacement of 9000tons. Typhoon displacement is greater than 40000tons.
P2 we re in same page I m just referring to the code names and trying to figure out what russian ambesador meant
 

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You'r data's are wrong.
Schuka-B SSN Displacement :12000(NATO:Akula-2) and Akula SSBN:Displacement: 24,000(NATO:Tyhoon)
 

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Like it or not, The Schuka is more famously known around the world by the NATO givenname Akula, Dont blame the Russian Ambassador calling it by the NATO name for our benefit.
 

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So I was right after all about the Nuclear Reactor, According to the Russian Ambassador it is a modified Russian SSN, ie with a VLS tubes for BM's.
 

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Typoon ,its a biggest sub in the world,
its only Sub with swimming pool in it,
and the gym, TV auditorium.
its like a Luxurious Sub in the world.
 

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You'r data's are wrong.
Schuka-B SSN Displacement :12000(NATO:Akula-2) and Akula SSBN:Displacement: 24,000(NATO:Tyhoon)
The Typhoon class has a displacement of 48000 tons when submerged.
941 TYPHOON - Russian and Soviet Nuclear Forces

As for Akula 2(Lets stick to NATO codenames); the ambassador said Akula and not Akula 2. Then again, he is not the best source.

The Akula has a displacement of 9000 tons submerged while Akula 2 has a displacement of 12000 tons submerged. This is because of modifications in the Hull.
 

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My point is he used NATO name instead of the Russian name

PS: Thanks for the info
 

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Jains send notice over N-submarine name

Mumbai: Five days after India's first indigenous nuclear submarine was inaugurated, a member of the Jain community has sent a legal notice to the Centre. The notice, addressed to the chief secretary of Union of India on July 27, is sent by Mumbai-based Ashok Bhikamchand Jain.

Ashok Jain said, "The word 'Arihant' reflects all the beliefs of the Jain dharma. It is highly revered and indicates a win over anger, lust, greed, and violence. Non-violence is the essence of our religion and submarine stands for everything it is not." The notice, sent by advocate Mahendra Jain says, "My client takes strong objection to the naming and calls upon you to reconsider the naming for the sake of Jain religion."

The community has decided to put up handbills signed by five senior most monks in every Jain temple. It requests Jains to write to the PM and defence minister. "We have sent requests to the Centre. If the issue is not resolved peacefully however, we will support community members who will move court on it," said Suryodayasagar Suriswarji Maharaj, the senior most monk in Mumbai based in Aadeswar Temple, Walkeshwar.

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India rising, and flexing military muscles

NO CHAMPAGNE bottles were broken at the launch of India’s first homemade nuclear submarine this week.

Instead, the political and military elite gathered in the port city of Vishakapatnam to watch Gursharan Kaur, the wife of the Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, crack an auspicious coconut on the new boat to mark the occasion.

The submarine – named Arihant, meaning destroyer of enemies in Sanskrit – will not be fully operational for several years but it is symbolic of India’s strategic aspirations.

Military spending has doubled over the past decade to about $US30 billion ($36 million) a year and if military outlays keep up with the country’s anticipated economic growth, analysts say it will be the world’s third largest military power in two decades.

As its military capacity swells, India’s potential to project its growing military might in the Indian Ocean – a region of great strategic importance to Australia – could be relatively unimpeded.

Deba Ranjan Mohanty, a strategic analyst at Delhi’s Observer Research Foundation, says that by about 2025 India is likely to have three to four aircraft carrier battle groups, a fleet of nuclear submarines, an air force with 35 squadrons and sophisticated land-based weapon systems to go with its huge army.

‘‘There is no doubt that India will be a comprehensive military power in the region,’’ he said. ‘‘The larger aspiration is to play a constructive role in the global arena.’’

India is the biggest importer of military hardware in the developing world and its recent acquisitions are a guide to its ambitions. It is purchasing more military hardware that can operate a long way from home, such as aircraft carriers, giant transport planes and airborne refuelling tankers.

‘‘A lot of this new equipment is about power projection,’’ says Rahul Bedi, a Delhi-based correspondent for Jane’s Defence Weekly. ‘‘As India’s economy grows, India’s ability to extend and display its power away from home is going to increase. It’s entering the big league.’’

Another factor in India’s military build-up is New Delhi’s concern about growing Chinese influence in the Indian Ocean and Bay of Bengal.

On Thursday a senior naval official revealed plans to add almost 100 warships to the navy over the next decade. Captain Alok Bhatnagar, the director of naval plans at the ministry of defence, said 32 warships and submarines were under construction, the Financial Times reported.

However, India will have to overcome some obstacles before it can claim to be the caretaker of the Indian Ocean and beyond.

A lot of its military hardware has reached obsolescence and Mr Mohanty says it will be difficult for India to rapidly acquire and manage the sophisticated weapons systems it wants.

It is also hampered by many perceived threats on its doorstep.

ANU strategic specialist, Professor Sandy Gordon, says India will eventually emerge as a major force in the Indian Ocean but for now it is constrained by internal security challenges and threatening neighbours, such as Pakistan and China.

‘‘India’s strategic attention is still demanded by these continental imperatives,’’ Professor Gordon said.

Because of the perceived threat from its nuclear-armed arch-rival Pakistan, India maintains a huge land force. Its regular army numbers about 1.3 million with a further part-time reserve force of about 1.2 million. In addition, India’s paramilitary forces number about 1.1 million. Only China has more security

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China casts a wary eye on India's nuclear sub

Hong Kong: China took wary note of India's launch of its first indigenously built nuclear-powered submarine, but with Chinese focus shifting to the upgraded, high-profile Sino-US strategic and economic dialogue in Washington, DC, the official media gave it only passing mention.

The official news agency Xinhua put out a factual report on the launch, without any commentary. Even the rather more stridently nationalist Global Times, which has in recent times kept up a barrage of articles criticising India's "unwise military moves", offered no immediate comment.

Xinhua, however, amplified a Pakistan Navy spokesman's comment that India's launch of a nuclear-powered submarine would "trigger a nuclear arms race" and "destabilise the region".

Shijie Junshie (Global Military) magazine executive editor Chen Hu, a military historian and specialist in strategic affairs, said the muted international response to India's announcement of its nuclear-powered submarine programme reflected the world's "duplicitous" efforts to focus attention away from the development.

"If, instead of India, it had been Iran or North Korea that had made this announcement, there would have been a more stirring response from the international community... There would have been economic, diplomatic, and military sanctions and intimidation -- and even the threat of war," he noted.

Global Times has been far more shrill in recent weeks, and one of its most recent articles on India's "unwise military moves" remains one of the 'most commented' articles on its website. That article bluntly said: "India sees China as both a potential threat and a competitor to surpass. But India cannot compete with China in a number of areas, like international influence, overall national power, and economic scale. India apparently has not realised this."

Indian politicians "seem to think their country would be doing China a huge favour simply by not joining the 'ring around China' established by the US and Japan," the article speculated. It further claimed that India believes China will respond with "fear and gratitude" and "defer" to India on territorial disputes. "But this is wishful thinking, as China won't make any compromises in its border disputes with India. And while China wishes to coexist peacefully, this desire isn't born out of fear."

China casts a wary eye on India's nuclear sub
 

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