Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Armand2REP]

Video link...

http://www.ndtv.com/news/videos/video_player.php?id=1206002

My condolences to IN and the families affected. These continous aviation losses are becoming a national tragedy. More training, more safety, better maintenance, all needs to be done. It is too much loss!

 

[nitesh]

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_gujarat-builds-1st-survey-catamarans-for-indian-navy_1354613

Ahmedabad: Gujarat’s shipbuilding company, Alcock Ashdown, has broken into a new league. The Gujarat government-owned PSU has built the ‘hull form’ of two catamarans for the Indian Navy, the first catamarans for hydrographic survey to be inducted by the navy. The first ship christened, INS Makar, was launched in early February and the second, INS Meen, was launched early on Tuesday morning at the shipyard in Bhavnagar.

With this advanced hydrographic suite, the Indian Navy will become one of the few navies in the world to have this kind of survey capability, and Alcock Ashdown has emerged as a leader in integrating complex systems. The vessels will be stationed in Vishakhapatnam. They are part of a fleet of six vessels being built by the shipyard for the Indian Navy at a total cost of Rs 800 crore. Managing director of Gujarat Mineral Development Corporation and the shipyard, VS Gadhvi, told DNA that this is a significant achievement. He explained that this crucial assignment was not awarded to AAGL by the Indian Navy because it’s a government company, but through a competitive bidding process in which private players had also participated.

Executive director, naval projects, Subir Sengupta, says the primary role of the vessels will be to conduct coastal hydrographic survey of major and minor ports and harbours, their approaches and limited oceanographic survey.

 

[ahmedsid]

This was an Airshow, and there is an inherent amount of danger present in such shows. This doesnt show the Poor Pilot Training or anything else, This shows that this is a very risky business, and our Pilots take into the skies to see us smile and be in awe! We should only Have the Best Planes do this manouvers, as these Planes are pushed to their limits, and sometimes beyond it. The Best Maintenance teams should be attending to these Planes, its no childs play!

May the Soul of the Pilot Rest In Peace, and may his Family be given the Courage to pass this. God Speed

 

[NSG_Blackcats]

RIP for those brave Pilots. How many more precious life have to be sacrificed before our MoD wake up!!!!!

As per news reports there may be a hydraulic failure or an engine failure as the pilot could not recover from the dive. But probe is on and all the Kirans are grounded at the moment.

As per Navy chief (as reported by news channels) the pilots did not eject and took the plane to a place where that could be least damage.

 

[ajtr]

SuryaKiran_Crash_Begumpet_HYD_03Mar2010

 

[vijaytripoli]

Rip to the pilots. it looks like that sky is falling downoin the IAF. i don,t know the what is happing in IAF , periviously chopper, mig-27, missile pechora fails, & now this . Is the Maintaince area is the key problem?
chau

 

[p2prada]

I guess there should be room for both.

 

[tarunraju]

There was NO reason to have an Indian Navy stunt show at this expo! So many things went wrong.

This was a civil aviation expo which included participants from the airlines industry (carriers, charters, private jet dealers), and aeronautics companies (manufacturers). A stunt show by Sagar Pavan (Navy) was totally unneeded for so many reasons:

1. The show was held at the Begumpet Airport, Hyderabad's old civilian airport which is right in the middle of the city, and has dense residential and commercial property surrounding it (click to enlarge):

2. Usually when military participates (with Air Force and its Suryakiran trainer aircraft in fancy shows), in Hyderabad, it's done at the Dundigal Air Force Station, which is the seat of the Air Force Academy in Hyderabad, certainly not Begumpet!:

^That place is just a freaking 20 km outside the city limits. Couldn't these corporate assholes drive that far?

3. Hyderabad is a land-locked city. The sea is some 400 km away. What is the Indian Navy and its less than a decade old Sagar Pavan sqn doing here? It should hang out at INS Hansa, Goa, not freaking Hyderabad!

The only reason these guys were called for a civil aviation expo was to entertain the guests, putting a lot of things at risk. Did you know, one of the reasons our airport moved out of Begumpet is also that the runway is in straight line with the Nuclear Fuel Complex (NFC), which houses fuel for India's nuclear power plants. The NFC is a mere 3 km (vector) from this place!

 

[Vinod2070]

RIP. Hope the reason is fully investigated and lessons are learned.

 

[sayareakd]

P2P probably the IA will see this as great asset, but not indian navy. They have already tested it and found it unsuitable for its need.

 

[anoop_mig25]

Northrop-Grumman has made multiple presentations to the Indian Navy explaining why the IAI-HAL Naval Rotory UAV (NRUAV) based on the Chetak airframe is a bad idea. Remember, the NRUAV is a programme that has considerable Indian investment, not to mention a fully Indian-built helicopter airframe. I heard from a couple of my sources in the Navy that the Americans were making a powerful pitch against the NRUAV, so I sent NG an e-mail a few days ago.

Mike Fuqua, Northrop's Business Development Director (Tactical Unmanned Systems) replied, "Northrop Grumman is aware of the initiative announced by the Indian Government regarding NRUAV. However, we are convinced that once the issues of complexity, capability, maturity and reliability are evaluated, the Indian Navy will recognize that Fire Scout will provide the best, most cost effective, and most rapid VTUAV capability for their forces at sea."

The NRUAV is currently in its trial stage, and is still some way off from sea trials. However, the Indian Navy has fully backed the programme and has invested in it as well. At the same time, Fuqua said, "The Indian Navy has shown interest in the Fire Scout VTUAV and Northrop Grumman has been engaged with the Indian Navy to discuss capabilities. We have provided briefings and answered questions from the highest level of the Indian Navy, at their request."

nEVER BELIEVE ANY AMERCIAN MILITRAY HARWAER EXPERT

 

[marcos98]

Commander Suresh Kumar Maurya and Lt Cdr Rahul Nair of the Sagar Pawan team died in the team's first ever crash. Heartfelt condolences to the families of both. Cdr Maurya was 39 and Lt Cdr Nair was 34.

 

[NSG_Blackcats]

Pilots' heroism prevents civilian casualty

Navy chief Nirmal Verma, who was in Bhopal, said the pilots had not ejected. "So the possibility is either time wise there was a problem or they (the pilots) were making all efforts to ensure that damage is minimised to any civil area. They are no more," he said.

 

[venkat]

Tragedy again and again!!! Two precious lives have been lost!!!!!

 

[Rage]

WTF? They crashed an aircraft at an air show! It couldn't possibly get any worse for Indian aviation.

Exhibitors, need look no further for your salespitch.


Here it is.

 

[Rahul Singh]

RIP to braves. I guess, engine failure or elevator malfunction.

 

[wild goose]

May God bless their souls.

RIP

 

[sandeepdg]

May the souls of these 2 brave pilots rest in peace.

 

[Armand2REP]

SuryaKiran_Crash_Begumpet_HYD_03Mar2010

Looks like he stalled out.

 

[biju633]

Let the soul Rest in Peace ....let God give strength to there family