Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[IndianHawk]

But you won't fire barak 8 for some subsonic ashm , you need vlsrsam

A frigate or destroyer have a specific mission they will use their offensive and defensive suit for that missions. And will use whatever measures available to defend themselves and attack enemy.

So using missile is mission specific.

 

[laughingbuddha]

INS Rajput to be Decommissioned on 21 May 21


Posted On: 20 MAY 2021 2:04PM by PIB Delhi



On the 21st of May, a glorious era will come to an end with the decommissioning of the first destroyer of the Indian Navy - INS Rajput. INS Rajput, the lead ship of the Kashin-class destroyers built by the erstwhile USSR was commissioned on 04 May 1980 and has rendered yeoman service to the Indian Navy for over 41 years. INS Rajput will now be decommissioned at a solemn ceremony at Naval Dockyard, Visakhapatnam. Owing to the ongoing COVID pandemic, the ceremony will be a low-key event attended only by in-station officers and sailors with strict observance of COVID protocols.



INS Rajput was constructed in the 61 Communards Shipyard in Nikolaev (present-day Ukraine) under her original Russian name ‘Nadezhny’ meaning ‘Hope’. The keel of the ship was laid on 11 Sep 1976 and she was launched on 17 Sep 1977. The ship was commissioned as INS Rajput on 04 May 1980 at Poti, Georgia by His Excellency Shri IK Gujral, the Ambassador of India to USSR with Capt Gulab Mohanlal Hiranandani as her first Commanding Officer. Over her four decades of glorious service to the nation, the ship has the distinction of serving in both Western and Eastern Fleets.


With the motto “Raj Karega Rajput” firmly etched in their minds and indomitable spirit, the gallant crew of INS Rajput have remained ever vigilant and always ‘on call’ to protect the maritime interest and sovereignty of the nation. The ship has participated in several operations aimed at keeping the nation secure. Some of these include Operation Aman off Sri Lanka to assist IPKF, Operation Pawan for patrolling duties off the coast of Sri Lanka, Operation Cactus to resolve hostage situation off the Maldives, and Operation Crowsnest off Lakshadweep. In addition, the ship participated in numerous bilateral and multi-national exercises. The ship was also the first Indian Naval Ship to be affiliated with an Indian Army regiment – the Rajput Regiment.


In her glorious 41 years, the ship had 31 Commanding Officers at her helm with the last CO taking charge of the ship on 14 Aug 2019. As the sun sets on 21 May 21, the Naval Ensign and the Commissioning Pennant will be hauled down for the last time onboard INS Rajput, symbolising the decommissioning.

What will they do with the weapons of INS Rajput? Install them on what ships?

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

What will they do with the weapons of INS Rajput? Install them on what ships?

Other than the Brahmos missiles, which might be retrofitted to other warships or kept in reserve, weapons systems like AK-230, Styx AsHM, S-125M air defence missiles will be retired alongwith the ship as they are pretty much obselete in today's day and age.

 

[BlackViking]

I hope its not send to the scrap yard.

Cuz its got a lot of history on it. Hope its handed over to some port museum so that future generation kiddos can visit and feel inspired.


An earlier warship was sent to port museum in Kerala
Navy hands over decommissioned attack craft to Alappuzha Port Museum

The Indian Navy on Monday handed over to the Kerala government a decommissioned fast attack craft at a function held at the Naval Base here. The ship would be taken to Alappuzha and placed as part of the Port Museum under the Alappuzha Heritage Project, a Defence press release said.

Navy hands over decommissioned attack craft to Alappuzha Port Museum

The vessel had participated in many coastal security and port defence missions

www.theweek.in

 

[laughingbuddha]

Other than the Brahmos missiles, which might be retrofitted to other warships or kept in reserve, weapons systems like AK-230, Styx AsHM, S-125M air defence missiles will be retired alongwith the ship as they are pretty much obselete in today's day and age.

They could arm the Kamortas with the discarded Brahmos. Those ships are woefully underarmed.

 

[Lonewolf]

They could arm the Kamortas with the discarded Brahmos. Those ships are woefully underarmed.

That's for asuw role , may get some vlsrsam but nothit else till mlu or not even then ,but that design is good for some next frigate class , it has enough space for 32 vls , if not in suw

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Could someone explain whether his allegations against the MRSAM launcher is true or false and has the problem been rectified if there was a problem. Because this particular admin is known to post shit about india without doing much research. I’m not too familiar with Naval developments so if someone could clarify it would be great. Thanks in advance.

 

[Ayushraj]

P 15 termit missile used as coastal deefence battery

 

[Deadtrap]

P 15 termit missile used as coastal deefence battery

It’s missiles are stored here.
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[Aniruddha Mulay]

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Could someone explain whether his allegations against the MRSAM launcher is true or false and has the problem been rectified if there was a problem. Because this particular admin is known to post shit about india without doing much research. I’m not too familiar with Naval developments so if someone could clarify it would be great. Thanks in advance.

The single arm Shtil-1 launcher still exists on the 3 Shivalik class frigates operational with the Indian Navy. The Shivaliks were designed in the 90s, just when VLS had started replacing arm launchers, one of the possible reason behind for it not sporting VLS can be that these Russian medium range SAM system had no compatible VLS system which they could be fired from which is why you see the arm launcher. Even the Indian Navy 6 Talwar class frigates have these arm launchers which Russia later replaced with VLS cells for its own Admiral Grigovorich class of frigates of the Russian Navy. The 4 additional Talwar class frigates ordered are expected to sport these VLS cells.
This is one of the reason why Shivalik class of frigates has been limited to just 3 hulls.
The ASW choppers will be replaced with the MH-60R in the near future which has already been ordered.

 

[FalconSlayers]

I hope its not send to the scrap yard.

Cuz its got a lot of history on it. Hope its handed over to some port museum so that future generation kiddos can visit and feel inspired.


An earlier warship was sent to port museum in Kerala
Navy hands over decommissioned attack craft to Alappuzha Port Museum

The Indian Navy on Monday handed over to the Kerala government a decommissioned fast attack craft at a function held at the Naval Base here. The ship would be taken to Alappuzha and placed as part of the Port Museum under the Alappuzha Heritage Project, a Defence press release said.

Navy hands over decommissioned attack craft to Alappuzha Port Museum

The vessel had participated in many coastal security and port defence missions

www.theweek.in

We now have 10 Destroyers, I don’t understand how are we moving ahead? We induct a few and we decommission a few avery year, how will our fleet expand and modernise?

 

[IndianHawk]

We now have 10 Destroyers, I don’t understand how are we moving ahead? We induct a few and we decommission a few avery year, how will our fleet expand and modernise?

Step by step. First our new destroyers are much bigger and capable than old ones. Rajputs are being replaced by Vishakhapatnam almost double the displacement.

Secondly destroyers are costly right now we are inflating number of our frigates massively.

We have 11 frigate in order/ construction stage while only one godavari class needs retirement soon.

That mean our frigates number will increase by 11 in next 4-5 years.

Similarly for Corvettes and other various ships.

Not to mention addition of platform like p8i and mh60r with nam missile are massive capabilities enhancement.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Step by step. First our new destroyers are much bigger and capable than old ones. Rajputs are being replaced by Vishakhapatnam almost double the displacement.

Secondly destroyers are costly right now we are inflating number of our frigates massively.

We have 11 frigate in order/ construction stage while only one godavari class needs retirement soon.

That mean our frigates number will increase by 11 in next 4-5 years.

Similarly for Corvettes and other various ships.

Not to mention addition of platform like p8i and mh60r with nam missile are massive capabilities enhancement.

Come 2025-26, Indian Navy will have 20 modern stealth frigates.
10 Talwar class
3 Shivalik class
7 Nilgiri class
that aside, we also have 3 Brahmaputra class frigates armed with 16 Kh-35 missiles each.
GSL is being prepped up by MoD and Navy to be an alternate frigate building yard to MDL and GRSE, we might see additional Nilgiri class or Talwar class frigates being ordered from GSL other than the ones already contracted for

 

[FalconSlayers]

Come 2025-26, Indian Navy will have 20 modern stealth frigates.
10 Talwar class
3 Shivalik class
7 Nilgiri class
that aside, we also have 3 Brahmaputra class frigates armed with 16 Kh-35 missiles each.
GSL is being prepped up by MoD and Navy to be an alternate frigate building yard to MDL and GRSE, we might see additional Nilgiri class or Talwar class frigates being ordered from GSL other than the ones already contracted for

3rd aircraft carrier is not a reality before 2030 hence I feel govt should also focus on AIP Sub fleet.

 

[IndianHawk]

3rd aircraft carrier is not a reality before 2030 hence I feel govt should also focus on AIP Sub fleet.

Sub numbers are already decided.
6 kalvari + 6 p75i + 6 more indigenous ssk + 6 SSN.
That's the plan now. Indigenous ssk numbers could grow.

 

[IndianHawk]

Come 2025-26, Indian Navy will have 20 modern stealth frigates.
10 Talwar class
3 Shivalik class
7 Nilgiri class
that aside, we also have 3 Brahmaputra class frigates armed with 16 Kh-35 missiles each.
GSL is being prepped up by MoD and Navy to be an alternate frigate building yard to MDL and GRSE, we might see additional Nilgiri class or Talwar class frigates being ordered from GSL other than the ones already contracted for

We need to order next gen Corvettes and next gen missile vessel first.

In this decade we will export of a lot of naval ships too so additional capabilities will be useful for that purpose.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

We need to order next gen Corvettes and next gen missile vessel first.

In this decade we will export of a lot of naval ships too so additional capabilities will be useful for that purpose.

I simply don't get why 13 corvettes are being procured under two separate programs namely NGC and NGMV, why cannot we just club them together to build 15 corvettes in one go?

 

[IndianHawk]

I simply don't get why 13 corvettes are being procured under two separate programs namely NGC and NGMV, why cannot we just club them together to build 15 corvettes in one go?

Different roles I guess. Missile vessels will be used for different tasks compared to Corvettes. Number of both classes might increase in future as necessary.

Also we are building 16 anti submarine shallow water Corvettes.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Is the minesweeper deal with Korean shipyards dead and is there any hope for a local alternative or foreign one?
Do we have the required tech to build them indigenously?

 

[IndianHawk]

Is the minesweeper deal with Korean shipyards dead and is there any hope for a local alternative or foreign one?

There will be fresh tender whenever it comes.