Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[rohit b3]

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BEAST MODE.

The 6 Next Gen Corvettes wouldn come by the mid 2020s, but rest are pretty accurate.
By this calculation , the Indian Navy should be comparable to the Uk and French Navy COMBINED in most areas, except amphibious capabilities.

 

[WolfPack86]

FA-18 Super Hornets Elbowing MiG Out Of India Carrier Jet Race?
Boeing has announced plans to test its F/A-18 Super Hornet jet on a carrier ski-jump to make a pitch for India’s carrier-based aircraft procurement program even as Russia’s MiG is expecting an order to supply the MiG-29K jets for the same.

India’s Russian origin aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya and India's first Indigenous aircraft carrier (IAC-1) use the ski-jump system while US carriers use the catapult-launch system. India has also been planning to build 65,000-tonne IAC-2, INS Vishal. Last year, BAE Systems offered to build a customized HMS Queen Elizabeth-type aircraft carrier for India, with an adaptable design for ski-jump and catapult launch.

The Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet will need to be tested and certified for ski-jump operation before it can make a pitch for the Indian procurement.


“Testing plans are underway,” Thom Breckenridge, a Boeing vice president for international sales, said at the Defexpo2020 Indian arms show. “We will rigorously check our aircraft on the ski jump.”

"Russia is waiting for a request from the Indian Defense Ministry for the delivery of deck-based MiG-29K fighters for the Vikrant,” a Russian aviation industry told Tass today in response to Indian media reports that the wait for the country’s first indigenous aircraft carrier Vikrant has been extended due to issues with the delivery of aviation equipment from Russia.

The Indian side has not yet issued a tender for the supply of deck-based aircraft, although the Indian side made the relevant inquiry back in 2017. On Russia’s behalf, the state arms seller Rosoboronexport will take part in the tender, the source told Tass.

According to India’s plans, the light aircraft carrier Vikrant is due to be delivered to the Indian Navy in March 2021. The warship is expected to carry up to 14 MiG-29K fighters and several helicopters.

India’s current fleet of 45 MiG-29K aircraft, procured for $2.2 billion, currently operate from Navy’s sole aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya, and plans to buy 57 more. The flight deck of INS Vikrant will reportedly have the capacity to hold 19 aircraft and the hangar inside will have room for 17 fighters.

New Delhi issued a request for information (RFI) for a “day-and-night-capable, all-weather, multi-role, deck-based combat aircraft which can be used for air-defense, air-to-surface operations, buddy refuelling, reconnaissance, etc. from (the Navy's) aircraft carriers.” The country has, however, not yet issued even a call to bid in a tender for the supply of deck-based aircraft.

In future, these aicrafft will fly from the first Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) Vikrant once it enters service.
https://www.defencenews.in/article/...wing-MiG-Out-Of-India-Carrier-Jet-Race-809294

 

[bhramos]

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[captscooby81]

GRSE delivers 4th and final Ship of kamorta class. Again with zero fire power to hunt submarines . No Naval helicopters . These ships are good for patrolling and handling pirates as of now

 

[Bleh]

...with zero fire power to hunt submarines . No Naval helicopters .

Erm, what now?.. Don't they have the ARDE anti-submarine rockets for RBU-6000 launcher & torpedoes? No SeaKing either?

 

[sorcerer]

moneycontrol.com
GRSE delivers 4th anti-submarine warfare corvette to Navy
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Defence PSU Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Ltd (GRSE) on Tuesday delivered its fourth anti-submarine warfare stealth corvette to the Indian Navy, an official said.

Kavaratti was the last in the series of four anti- Submarine Warfare Corvettes (ASWC) built by Kolkata-based GRSE under Project 28, he said.

The first three ships of the series -- INS Kamorta, INS Kadmatt and INS Kiltan -- were delivered earlier, and form an integral part of Eastern Fleet of the Indian Navy, the GRSE official said.

They have been engaged in several overseas operations and international maritime exhibitions in Malaysia, Singapore and other countries, the official said.

Project 28, approved in 2003, is a class of anti- submarine warship corvettes currently in service with the Indian Navy. The corvettes are named after islands in the Lakshadweep archipelago.

INS Kiltan recently participated in the prestigious Exercise Malabar 2019, an endeavour to strengthen India- Japan-US naval cooperation and enhance interoperability, the official said.

With 90 per cent indigenous content, the P-28 class ships are equipped to fight in nuclear, biological and chemical warfare conditions and featured the integration of a host of weapons and sensors.

These ASW corvettes have catapulted the Indian Navy into the elite club of countries that have built stealth ships, the GRSE official said, adding that the stealth features make the ships almost invisible to the enemy, both above and below the sea surface.

The corvettes -- designed as an extremely versatile ASW platform capable of neutralising enemy submarines with indigenous weapons like torpedoes and rocket launchers -- are equally effective in the littorals and deep oceans, the official said.

Capable of attaining a maximum speed of 25 knots, the ship has a length of 109 metres and width of 12.8 metres, he said, adding that it has an endurance of over 3400 nautical miles (NM) at 18-knot speed, and can accommodate 17 officers and 106 sailors.

Kavaratti and INS Kiltan are the first two major warships in the country to have the unique feature of superstructure made of carbon fibre composite material.

It is for the first time in India that such composite material is being integrated with steel hull of a ship, and GRSE is the first shipyard in the country to have successfully achieved this task, the official added.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Indian Navy's Mig 29K has crashed today at 10:30 AM while on a routine sortie.
The pilot had ejected safely.
This is the 2nd Mig 29K which has crashed bringing the total no. of Mig 29K operated by the Indian Navy from 45 to 43.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

:biggrin2:
I think this project will never see the daylight because of the obvious reasons.
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[Assassin 2.0]

:biggrin2:
I think this project will never see the daylight because of the obvious reasons.
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Anyways can anyone find out what could have been cost of dhruv armed with This ASW system against the cost of newly procured Shiney MH-60.

 

[fire starter]

Anyways can anyone find out what could have been cost of dhruv armed with This ASW system against the cost of newly procured Shiney MH-60.

dhruv can't be converted into ASW platform..

 

[Assassin 2.0]

dhruv can't be converted into ASW platform..
View attachment 43638

I come across this picture

Yeah you are right dhruv is kinda small to host all of these things.
I would say if we are able to build all these sensors then i think HAL can build a suitable helicopter to absorb them.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

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[Atcjurvin]

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[Bleh]

dhruv can't be converted into ASW platform..

I come across this picture

Yeah you are right dhruv is kinda small to host all of these things.
I would say if we are able to build all these sensors then i think HAL can build a suitable helicopter to absorb them.

This baby can, if it lives...

 

[WolfPack86]

Indian Navy ships armed with BrahMos can defeat warships of any country’
Stating that all the Indian Naval ships guarding the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea are armed with BrahMos missiles that give only 22 seconds reaction-time to the enemy, Sudhir Mishra, scientist and Director General (BrahMos), DRDO (Defence Research and Development Organisation), said on Friday that these supersonic cruise missiles have given the Navy the capability to “defeat warships of any country.”

While speaking on the topic of the “Role of BrahMos in nation building” at an event organised by the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) in Ahmedabad, Mishra said, “It is an unmanned aircraft loaded with explosives… A ship usually has a radar that can only see only up to 20 kilometres… the speed of the BrahMos is 970 metre per second. When it is about 20 kilometres away, the enemy gets only 22 seconds to react. It is very difficult to engage a projectile coming with so much speed.”

The BrahMos missile has a range of 300 km and a speed of Mach 3.


Mishra, who is also the CEO and MD of BrahMos Aerospace Pvt Ltd, said there are currently eight variants of the Brahmos that can be fired from different platforms like ships, Sukhios, submarines and land systems.

“One of the Naval captains told me that for a 600 kilometre diameter I have only friends in the ocean. The reason is nobody can afford to be an enemy within this diameter. Because, we are having a capability to defeat warships of any country. When I underline any country, you can include all the countries without telling you the name,” he said. Mishra also showed videos of BrahMos hitting a ship and breaking down into two pieces and said, “This is the fear our enemies and adversaries are having. This kind of capability we provide to our Navy.”

Serving Naval officers have spoken in public about the increasing might of the Chinese in the Indian Ocean which is a key trade route for ships plying to South-East Asia and beyond.

BrahMos Aerospace Pvt Ltd a private entity developed in joint venture with Russia that began operations with Rs 1,300 crore about 21 years ago has today “created business worth Rs 34,000 crore” with only Indian Armed forces as the only customer.

“Had we exported to other countries, we would have certainly become much bigger and made much more money,” Mishra said.

Brahmos Aerospace, the joint venture between DRDO and NPOM of Russia, was formed on February 12, 1998. “DRDO has a 50.5 per cent equity in the project. Had it crossed 51 per cent, it would have become a defence Public Sector Undertaking and the government never wanted another PSU to come up. So we are a private company which is owned and run by the government,” he added.

He said 70-75 per cent of the Brahmos systems were being manufactured in an indigenous manner and more than 200 industries have employed 20,000 workers for the development and manufacture of the missile. These industries include L&T which manufacturers canisters for the missile near Vadodara.
https://www.defencenews.in/article/...os-can-defeat-warships-of-any-country’-809485

 

[Suryavanshi]

This baby can, if it lives... View attachment 43710

Seahawks are tailor made with Navy warfare in mind.
IMRH can do the Job yes but it will still compared to its counterpart.

IMRH should replace Mi 17s role and cut down on imports.

 

[Bleh]

Seahawks are tailor made with Navy warfare in mind.
IMRH can do the Job yes but it will still compared to its counterpart.

IMRH should replace Mi 17s role and cut down on imports.

That one reminds me of Mi-17, Dhruv, Mi-38, SeaKing all at the same time.

Not too difficult to have Navy version be tailored in seahawk fashion. But it is all the sensors and subsystems that are the challenge.

 

[ezsasa]

Indian Navy ships armed with BrahMos can defeat warships of any country’
Stating that all the Indian Naval ships guarding the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea are armed with BrahMos missiles that give only 22 seconds reaction-time to the enemy, Sudhir Mishra, scientist and Director General (BrahMos), DRDO (Defence Research and Development Organisation), said on Friday that these supersonic cruise missiles have given the Navy the capability to “defeat warships of any country.”

While speaking on the topic of the “Role of BrahMos in nation building” at an event organised by the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) in Ahmedabad, Mishra said, “It is an unmanned aircraft loaded with explosives… A ship usually has a radar that can only see only up to 20 kilometres… the speed of the BrahMos is 970 metre per second. When it is about 20 kilometres away, the enemy gets only 22 seconds to react. It is very difficult to engage a projectile coming with so much speed.”

The BrahMos missile has a range of 300 km and a speed of Mach 3.


Mishra, who is also the CEO and MD of BrahMos Aerospace Pvt Ltd, said there are currently eight variants of the Brahmos that can be fired from different platforms like ships, Sukhios, submarines and land systems.

“One of the Naval captains told me that for a 600 kilometre diameter I have only friends in the ocean. The reason is nobody can afford to be an enemy within this diameter. Because, we are having a capability to defeat warships of any country. When I underline any country, you can include all the countries without telling you the name,” he said. Mishra also showed videos of BrahMos hitting a ship and breaking down into two pieces and said, “This is the fear our enemies and adversaries are having. This kind of capability we provide to our Navy.”

Serving Naval officers have spoken in public about the increasing might of the Chinese in the Indian Ocean which is a key trade route for ships plying to South-East Asia and beyond.

BrahMos Aerospace Pvt Ltd a private entity developed in joint venture with Russia that began operations with Rs 1,300 crore about 21 years ago has today “created business worth Rs 34,000 crore” with only Indian Armed forces as the only customer.

“Had we exported to other countries, we would have certainly become much bigger and made much more money,” Mishra said.

Brahmos Aerospace, the joint venture between DRDO and NPOM of Russia, was formed on February 12, 1998. “DRDO has a 50.5 per cent equity in the project. Had it crossed 51 per cent, it would have become a defence Public Sector Undertaking and the government never wanted another PSU to come up. So we are a private company which is owned and run by the government,” he added.

He said 70-75 per cent of the Brahmos systems were being manufactured in an indigenous manner and more than 200 industries have employed 20,000 workers for the development and manufacture of the missile. These industries include L&T which manufacturers canisters for the missile near Vadodara.
https://www.defencenews.in/article/...os-can-defeat-warships-of-any-country’-809485

I donno how many more years we have to wait for Brahmos to see combat.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

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For good or for worse?

 

[bhramos]

Indian Navy Sailors celebrating Holi at Sea