Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Jackd]

From what I have read, they are a replacement for Barak 1 missile.

 

[ezsasa]

BREAKING: India Clears Decks For 24 American MH-60 Romeo Helicopters For The Indian Navy

 

[darshan978]

From what I have read, they are a replacement for Barak 1 missile.

Then what was the reason of purchasing barak 1 recently..

 

[Jackd]

It was purchased last year and that was to replenish the arsenal rather than adding on to existing systems.

 

[Jackd]

Saurav Jha

@SJha1618

The missile system in question will be either just the MBDA Aster 15 or a version of the CAMM family, with 4 loadouts imported outright and 10 more probably license produced via a 'Make in India' Maitri 'redux'.

For navy sr missile.

 

[rohit b3]

Huh? What about the QRSAM that was tested a couple of times last year? Years passing by, but imports arent coming down.

 

[Jackd]

QRSAM for army. Besides, it is still in testing phase and not a mature platform.

 

[binayak95]

People are going crazy about the SR SAM. Its an old requirement for corvettes and small ships that dont have any AD radar. These missiles are self guiding. will be added to the Kamorta class and its successors.

 

[Advaidhya Tiwari]

People are going crazy about the SR SAM. Its an old requirement for corvettes and small ships that dont have any AD radar. These missiles are self guiding. will be added to the Kamorta class and its successors.

How can they be self guiding? How will they know when to fire if there is no radar?

 

[binayak95]

How can they be self guiding? How will they know when to fire if there is no radar?

The missiles have their own homing radar. The ship's radar gives only general heading. Target acquisition and tracking is the missile's job.

 

[vampyrbladez]

BREAKING: India Clears Decks For 24 American MH-60 Romeo Helicopters For The Indian Navy

This is the biggest news of all! Praise MoD(i)! (See what I did there.)

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Boost for Navy as govt clears procurement of 111 choppers worth Rs 21,000 crore
The Navy has been pressing the government to procure the 111 utility and 123 multi-role helicopters to strengthen its existing capability and replace its ageing fleet of copters.
By: Express Web Desk | New Delhi |Updated: August 25, 2018 7:17:10 pm

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XThe decision was taken at a meeting of the DAC, which is considered to be the ministry's highest decision-making body on procurement.
Giving a fillip to the Navy, the Ministry of Defence Saturday gave its nod to the procurement of 111 utility helicopters for the maritime forces at a cost of over Rs 21,000 crore. Officials said the ministry also cleared acquisition proposals worth nearly Rs 46,000 crore, including the acquisition of the helicopters.


“The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), in a landmark decision today, approved procurement of 111 Utility Helicopters for the Indian Navy at a cost of over Rs 21,000 crore,” the Defence Ministry said.

The procurement of the helicopters is the first project under the government’s ambitious strategic partnership (SP) model which ropes in private firms to build select military platforms in India, in partnership with foreign defence manufacturers. The choppers will be used in attack missions besides search, rescue.

The decision was taken at a meeting of the DAC, which is considered to be the ministry’s highest decision-making body on procurement.

Besides this, the official said the DAC also gave its approval to a few other procurement proposals amounting to approximately Rs 24,879.16 crore. This included approval for the acquisition of 150 indigenously designed and developed 155 mm advanced towed artillery guns systems for the Army at an approximate cost of Rs 3,364 crores.

These guns have been indigenously designed and developed by DRDO (Defence Research and Development Organisation) and will be manufactured by production agencies, as nominated by DRDO.

The council also cleared the procurement of 24 naval multi-role helicopters (NMRH) that can be engaged in anti-submarine warfare. The MRHs are an integral part of the frontline warships like the aircraft carriers, destroyers, frigates and corvettes.

The Navy has been pressing the government to procure the 111 utility and 123 multi-role helicopters to strengthen its existing capability and replace its ageing fleet of copters. In August last year, the Indian Navy had issued a global request for information (RFI) for procurement of 111 utility and 123 multi-role helicopters. The government had issued an RFI for it in 2011 as well as in 2013.

The procurement of 14 vertically launched short-range missile systems was also approved by the council in today’s meeting. Of these, 10 systems will be indigeneously developed. “These systems will boost the self-defence capability of ships against anti-ship missiles,” the ministry said.

In May last year, the defence ministry had finalised the SP model under which select private companies will be roped in to build military platforms like submarines, fighter jets and choppers in India in partnership with foreign entities.

The policy envisages establishment of long-term strategic partnerships with Indian defence majors through a transparent and competitive process wherein they would tie up with global original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) to seek technology transfers to set up domestic manufacturing infrastructure and supply chains.

Initially, the strategic partners will be selected in four segments – fighter aircraft, helicopters, submarines and armoured fighting vehicles/main battle tanks. It is expected to be expanded to other segments at a later stage.

 

[Prashant12]

Anti-submarine rocket developed by ARDE with extended range of 8.5km


Pune: The armament research and development establishment (ARDE) in association with the High Energy Materials Research Laboratory (HEMRL) has developed an extended range anti-submarine rocket (ASR) with a maximum range of 8.5km for the Indian Navy.
Both laboratories are under the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO).

KM Rajan, the director of ARDE told TOI on Sunday, “We have recently demonstrated a new rocket technology to the Navy, who have issued a set of qualitative requirements to be achieved during our internal trials. We will be handing over the rocket to the Navy for their user trials after achieving the target of their qualitative requirements.”

Currently, the navy has vintage Russian rocket RGB-60 with a maximum range of 5.3km, which is an unguided area weapon for combating submarines. These rockets are fired from the RBU 6000 rocket launcher, which is fitted on-board certain Indian Naval Ships including the R-Class, Delhi Class and Talwar Class of Navy ships.

A senior DRDO scientist, who did not wish to be named, told TOI, “The Indian navy wants an extended range anti-submarine rocket which can engage an enemy’s submarine from a distance of 8km. Accordingly, a group of scientists worked on the project and developed the rocket according to the requirements of the navy. Now, we are working on the qualitative requirements that the Navy has prescribed.”

An anti-submarine officer of the Indian navy said, “Firing torpedoes to engage the enemy submarine is considered as a deliberate attack and it can be costly if the attack fails. Therefore, the rockets are mainly seen as an ‘urgent attack weapon’, which can be fired as a single or in salvo to disrupt the movement of the submarines. Therefore, the role of the rocket is as crucial as torpedoes.”

Considering the importance of the Indian Ocean Region and the increasing sighting of foreign submarines in the Indian Ocean, the officer said, it is need of the hour to have an extended range rocket which can engage hostile submarines from further away.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ended-range-of-8-5km/articleshow/65555007.cms

 

[Bhurki]

The procurement of 14 vertically launched short-range missile systems was also approved by the council in today’s meeting. Of these, 10 systems will be indigeneously developed. “These systems will boost the self-defence capability of ships against anti-ship missiles,” the ministry said.

So basically an upgraded barak 1? Or something different?

 

[Enquirer]

Anti-submarine rocket developed by ARDE with extended range of 8.5km


Pune: The armament research and development establishment (ARDE) in association with the High Energy Materials Research Laboratory (HEMRL) has developed an extended range anti-submarine rocket (ASR) with a maximum range of 8.5km for the Indian Navy.
Both laboratories are under the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO).

KM Rajan, the director of ARDE told TOI on Sunday, “We have recently demonstrated a new rocket technology to the Navy, who have issued a set of qualitative requirements to be achieved during our internal trials. We will be handing over the rocket to the Navy for their user trials after achieving the target of their qualitative requirements.”

Currently, the navy has vintage Russian rocket RGB-60 with a maximum range of 5.3km, which is an unguided area weapon for combating submarines. These rockets are fired from the RBU 6000 rocket launcher, which is fitted on-board certain Indian Naval Ships including the R-Class, Delhi Class and Talwar Class of Navy ships.

A senior DRDO scientist, who did not wish to be named, told TOI, “The Indian navy wants an extended range anti-submarine rocket which can engage an enemy’s submarine from a distance of 8km. Accordingly, a group of scientists worked on the project and developed the rocket according to the requirements of the navy. Now, we are working on the qualitative requirements that the Navy has prescribed.”

An anti-submarine officer of the Indian navy said, “Firing torpedoes to engage the enemy submarine is considered as a deliberate attack and it can be costly if the attack fails. Therefore, the rockets are mainly seen as an ‘urgent attack weapon’, which can be fired as a single or in salvo to disrupt the movement of the submarines. Therefore, the role of the rocket is as crucial as torpedoes.”

Considering the importance of the Indian Ocean Region and the increasing sighting of foreign submarines in the Indian Ocean, the officer said, it is need of the hour to have an extended range rocket which can engage hostile submarines from further away.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ended-range-of-8-5km/articleshow/65555007.cms

I don't think this is that dramatic. Depth charging (even when boosted by rockets) are a little passe!
What would be awesome is when DRDO completes the SMART project (Supersonic missile assisted release of Torpedo).

 

[Enquirer]

So basically an upgraded barak 1? Or something different?

Probably the same Barak 1 missiles to replace the old/retired missiles.
If it were a new system then one would expect the RFP route.

 

[Jackd]

It is for new systems which will replace barak-1.

 

[Bhurki]

Probably the same Barak 1 missiles to replace the old/retired missiles.
If it were a new system then one would expect the RFP route.

They did mention MBDA though..

 

[Enquirer]

They did mention MBDA though..

I haven't seen the mention of MBDA in the context of SRSAM. Would you mind providing a link to the article which says that?

 

[Bhurki]

I haven't seen the mention of MBDA in the context of SRSAM. Would you mind providing a link to the article which says that?

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/pr...inistrys-initial-nod/articleshow/65544283.cms

"The DAC also approved the procurement of 14 vertically-launched short-range surface-to-air missile systems for stealth frigates and anti-submarine warfare corvettes from European firm MBDA. “Ten of these air defence systems will be produced in India,” said an official."