Indian MBRLS Pinaka Thread
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It is almost catching up with SMERCH with 90 Km range. Next in line is Pinaka 2 with 120 KM range and 250 KG payload. Smearch Ka baap.
Anyway any source for 80 KM range? What is the payload at 80 KM range? How did they doubled the range from 40 to 80?
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Yes it's 80 km. Hv photo of the brochure. Unable to upload.
Warhead - 100 kg
Rocket cost - Rs 70 lac
Accuracy - 60-80m
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There is an "Upload a file" option right next to "Post reply" button. Use that.
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How many smerch systems do we have in use?And how many Pinaka systems are expected to be inducted.And last question- Is the truck made by Tata or some Ukrainian truck?
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22 Pinaka regiments to be inducted by 2030. Each regiment has 3 Batteries each with 6 launchers, for a total of 18 launchers. So 22 regiments will have 396 launchers. These will be Pinaka Mk-1 and 2s replacing BM-21 Grad systems.
Not sure about Smerch, but IMHO, there are 3 regiments inducted. One in each of the Arty Divisons. Plans afoot to replace and augment these with an indigenous system based on Pinaka.
Both Smerch and Pinaka are mounted on Tatra trucks license built in India.
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On the point of BM21 being replaced, there is a RFI For manufacturing 5000 rockets a year capacity by Indian private companies.
Grad may not be going away anytime soon.
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MOD FLOATS REPEAT TENDER FOR HOMEMADE PINAKA ROCKET LAUNCHERS VALUED AT $2B
NEW DELHI — In a move aimed at becoming more self-sufficient with multi-barrel rocket launchers, the Indian Ministry of Defence has floated a big-ticket bid to buy six regiments of homemade Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launchers for $2 billion. The order for the acquisition is expected to be placed within 18 months.
Last December, the ministry placed an order for two regiments — one regiment is 18 systems — totaling a $350 million order for the Pinaka rocket launchers. Industry sources say India is now contemplating exporting the Pinaka.
The order will be split between the prime state-owned contractors Bharat Earth Movers Limited and the Ordnance Factories Board, or OFB, and private sector defense companies Larsen & Toubro and Tata Power SED. Under the contract, BEML will supply the vehicles for the rocket launchers; L&T and Tata Power SED will supply the launcher systems; and OFB will supply the rocket ammunition .
L&T and Tata Power SED have designed and developed the Pinaka system with the Defence Research and Development Organization, or DRDO. The Indian Army currently operates two regiments of the Pinaka systems.
"The indigenous rocket launcher system is required to meet Army's operational necessities and also to reduce dependence on foreign sources and replacing the Russian Grad BM-21 and Smerch rocket systems," an Indian Army official said. The Army needs the extended range Pinaka Mark-II at the earliest, the official added, "however, the latest order is for Pinaka Mark-I with a range of 30 kilometers even though the Indian Army had preferred Pinaka Mark-II, which has a range of up to 65 kilometers but is still under development."
Jayant Damodar Patil, head of defense and aerospace for L&T, said "Pinaka Mark-II is a developmental program of DRDO. The technical trials have been completed a couple of months back, but the induction decision is awaited."
"DRDO and Indian industry will now target to export Pinaka Mk-I," he said. However, some Army officials cited problems with the rockets of the two regiments that have been in use for more than a decade.
Bhupinder Yadav, a defense analyst and retired Indian Army major general, said there is a problem with the rocket ammunition supplied by OFB. "The production of Pinaka rockets is on hold after some quality-related issues mainly relating to OFB-produced propellant such as short ranges, residues after firings and accidents relating to burst in launchers, etc."
However, such defects occur if the propellant is non-homogeneous and have air bubbles, he asserted, adding that "the supplies of fuzes and its quality assurances is also an issue."
"Absorption of technology by OFB appears to be poor, and it (OFB) may not be able to maintain quality standards at the manufacturing stage, particularly for mass production," according to Rahul Bhonsle, a defense analyst and retired Indian Army brigadier.
No MoD official was available to comment on the problems with the rockets and their current status.
On the possibility of imports of rockets and ammunition for Pinaka, Patil said: "Rockets ammunition are expected to be ordered to OFB as well as the private industries that would take technology transfer from DRDO (which has developed the rocket ammunition)."
"No imports are likely as any imported ammunition will have to undergo detailed evaluation trials that can take years to get cleared," Patil added.
http://www.defensenews.com/articles...er-for-homemade-rocket-launchers-valued-at-2b
NEW DELHI — In a move aimed at becoming more self-sufficient with multi-barrel rocket launchers, the Indian Ministry of Defence has floated a big-ticket bid to buy six regiments of homemade Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launchers for $2 billion. The order for the acquisition is expected to be placed within 18 months.
Last December, the ministry placed an order for two regiments — one regiment is 18 systems — totaling a $350 million order for the Pinaka rocket launchers. Industry sources say India is now contemplating exporting the Pinaka.
The order will be split between the prime state-owned contractors Bharat Earth Movers Limited and the Ordnance Factories Board, or OFB, and private sector defense companies Larsen & Toubro and Tata Power SED. Under the contract, BEML will supply the vehicles for the rocket launchers; L&T and Tata Power SED will supply the launcher systems; and OFB will supply the rocket ammunition .
L&T and Tata Power SED have designed and developed the Pinaka system with the Defence Research and Development Organization, or DRDO. The Indian Army currently operates two regiments of the Pinaka systems.
"The indigenous rocket launcher system is required to meet Army's operational necessities and also to reduce dependence on foreign sources and replacing the Russian Grad BM-21 and Smerch rocket systems," an Indian Army official said. The Army needs the extended range Pinaka Mark-II at the earliest, the official added, "however, the latest order is for Pinaka Mark-I with a range of 30 kilometers even though the Indian Army had preferred Pinaka Mark-II, which has a range of up to 65 kilometers but is still under development."
Jayant Damodar Patil, head of defense and aerospace for L&T, said "Pinaka Mark-II is a developmental program of DRDO. The technical trials have been completed a couple of months back, but the induction decision is awaited."
"DRDO and Indian industry will now target to export Pinaka Mk-I," he said. However, some Army officials cited problems with the rockets of the two regiments that have been in use for more than a decade.
Bhupinder Yadav, a defense analyst and retired Indian Army major general, said there is a problem with the rocket ammunition supplied by OFB. "The production of Pinaka rockets is on hold after some quality-related issues mainly relating to OFB-produced propellant such as short ranges, residues after firings and accidents relating to burst in launchers, etc."
However, such defects occur if the propellant is non-homogeneous and have air bubbles, he asserted, adding that "the supplies of fuzes and its quality assurances is also an issue."
"Absorption of technology by OFB appears to be poor, and it (OFB) may not be able to maintain quality standards at the manufacturing stage, particularly for mass production," according to Rahul Bhonsle, a defense analyst and retired Indian Army brigadier.
No MoD official was available to comment on the problems with the rockets and their current status.
On the possibility of imports of rockets and ammunition for Pinaka, Patil said: "Rockets ammunition are expected to be ordered to OFB as well as the private industries that would take technology transfer from DRDO (which has developed the rocket ammunition)."
"No imports are likely as any imported ammunition will have to undergo detailed evaluation trials that can take years to get cleared," Patil added.
http://www.defensenews.com/articles...er-for-homemade-rocket-launchers-valued-at-2b
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WTF is matter with OFB?We need to find another produces for rockets.MOD FLOATS REPEAT TENDER FOR HOMEMADE PINAKA ROCKET LAUNCHERS VALUED AT $2B
NEW DELHI — In a move aimed at becoming more self-sufficient with multi-barrel rocket launchers, the Indian Ministry of Defence has floated a big-ticket bid to buy six regiments of homemade Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launchers for $2 billion. The order for the acquisition is expected to be placed within 18 months.
Last December, the ministry placed an order for two regiments — one regiment is 18 systems — totaling a $350 million order for the Pinaka rocket launchers. Industry sources say India is now contemplating exporting the Pinaka.
The order will be split between the prime state-owned contractors Bharat Earth Movers Limited and the Ordnance Factories Board, or OFB, and private sector defense companies Larsen & Toubro and Tata Power SED. Under the contract, BEML will supply the vehicles for the rocket launchers; L&T and Tata Power SED will supply the launcher systems; and OFB will supply the rocket ammunition .
L&T and Tata Power SED have designed and developed the Pinaka system with the Defence Research and Development Organization, or DRDO. The Indian Army currently operates two regiments of the Pinaka systems.
"The indigenous rocket launcher system is required to meet Army's operational necessities and also to reduce dependence on foreign sources and replacing the Russian Grad BM-21 and Smerch rocket systems," an Indian Army official said. The Army needs the extended range Pinaka Mark-II at the earliest, the official added, "however, the latest order is for Pinaka Mark-I with a range of 30 kilometers even though the Indian Army had preferred Pinaka Mark-II, which has a range of up to 65 kilometers but is still under development."
Jayant Damodar Patil, head of defense and aerospace for L&T, said "Pinaka Mark-II is a developmental program of DRDO. The technical trials have been completed a couple of months back, but the induction decision is awaited."
"DRDO and Indian industry will now target to export Pinaka Mk-I," he said. However, some Army officials cited problems with the rockets of the two regiments that have been in use for more than a decade.
Bhupinder Yadav, a defense analyst and retired Indian Army major general, said there is a problem with the rocket ammunition supplied by OFB. "The production of Pinaka rockets is on hold after some quality-related issues mainly relating to OFB-produced propellant such as short ranges, residues after firings and accidents relating to burst in launchers, etc."
However, such defects occur if the propellant is non-homogeneous and have air bubbles, he asserted, adding that "the supplies of fuzes and its quality assurances is also an issue."
"Absorption of technology by OFB appears to be poor, and it (OFB) may not be able to maintain quality standards at the manufacturing stage, particularly for mass production," according to Rahul Bhonsle, a defense analyst and retired Indian Army brigadier.
No MoD official was available to comment on the problems with the rockets and their current status.
On the possibility of imports of rockets and ammunition for Pinaka, Patil said: "Rockets ammunition are expected to be ordered to OFB as well as the private industries that would take technology transfer from DRDO (which has developed the rocket ammunition)."
"No imports are likely as any imported ammunition will have to undergo detailed evaluation trials that can take years to get cleared," Patil added.
http://www.defensenews.com/articles...er-for-homemade-rocket-launchers-valued-at-2b
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Grad 's still have an important role. Pinaka is pure over overkill grad's are a little more subtle
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Defence Ministry plans to buy six regiments of Pinaka rocket launchers
Mumbai, June 7:
A repeat tender for Pinaka rocket launchers appears to be in the offing with the Defence Ministry looking to buy six regiments — one regiment is 18 systems — of the home-made weapon system. Touted as one of the first ‘create in India’ product, the Pinaka is designed and developed by two private companies, the Tatas and Larsen and Toubro (L&T), in association with the Armament Research and Development Establishment of the DRDO.
Confirming the development, and the private entities’ wait for the Request for Proposal (RFP), Jayant Patil, Senior Vice-President and Head-Defence and Aerospace, L&T, told BusinessLine, “We expect the commercial RFP for the next six regiments to be issued within the coming few weeks. Thereafter, contracting is likely to be completed during FY18.”
Prime contract
Tata Power’s Strategic Engineering Division (SED) was one of the two private companies to be awarded the prime contract by the Defence Ministry way back in 2006. Several technological advances have taken place since. “At present, one regiment of Pinaka (20 launchers) supplied by Tata Power SED are in service with the Indian Army,” Rahul Chaudhry, CEO, Tata Power SED, told BusinessLine.
Last December, Tata Power SED received an order from the Defence Ministry for the supply of one regiment of Command Post and Launcher of Pinaka Multi Rocket Launcher System to the Indian Army. The ₹200 crore order included supply of 20 launchers and eight command posts.
Pinaka supplements the existing artillery gun at ranges beyond 30 km, and has a quick reaction time and high rate of fire. It was designed to replace the BM-21 Grad multiple rocket launcher systems of the Indian Army.
A multifaceted system, the Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher (MBRL) grants the Pinaka concentrated firepower to destroy enemy targets. The Pinaka is also proving to be a test-bed for the fruitful partnerships that can be developed between the government and the private sector to address challenges and to collaborate and bring on indigenous innovation, as well as provide frameworks for working together.
Speaking to BusinessLine about the recent strategic partnership policy announcements, Chaudhry termed it the “government’s empathetic announcement that private sector participation in defence is the new normal in this sector.”
Sources added that “though the army has inducted Pinaka Mark-I, it is an unguided area weapon. Mark-II is in the trial phase. There are major differences between the two. Mark-II is guided and the range has been extended. The rocket propellant has been redesigned and can be fixed on to the same barrel, so one does not have to change barrels and can fire simultaneously. Mark-I can fire at 35 km, now this has been extended to 55 km.”
Speaking of the advanced Pinaka, DRDO sources said, the “System on-board accuracy has been increased. The extra aerodynamics would help destroy the same area with fewer rockets, leading to less damage.”
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...of-pinaka-rocket-launchers/article9722264.ece
Mumbai, June 7:
A repeat tender for Pinaka rocket launchers appears to be in the offing with the Defence Ministry looking to buy six regiments — one regiment is 18 systems — of the home-made weapon system. Touted as one of the first ‘create in India’ product, the Pinaka is designed and developed by two private companies, the Tatas and Larsen and Toubro (L&T), in association with the Armament Research and Development Establishment of the DRDO.
Confirming the development, and the private entities’ wait for the Request for Proposal (RFP), Jayant Patil, Senior Vice-President and Head-Defence and Aerospace, L&T, told BusinessLine, “We expect the commercial RFP for the next six regiments to be issued within the coming few weeks. Thereafter, contracting is likely to be completed during FY18.”
Prime contract
Tata Power’s Strategic Engineering Division (SED) was one of the two private companies to be awarded the prime contract by the Defence Ministry way back in 2006. Several technological advances have taken place since. “At present, one regiment of Pinaka (20 launchers) supplied by Tata Power SED are in service with the Indian Army,” Rahul Chaudhry, CEO, Tata Power SED, told BusinessLine.
Last December, Tata Power SED received an order from the Defence Ministry for the supply of one regiment of Command Post and Launcher of Pinaka Multi Rocket Launcher System to the Indian Army. The ₹200 crore order included supply of 20 launchers and eight command posts.
Pinaka supplements the existing artillery gun at ranges beyond 30 km, and has a quick reaction time and high rate of fire. It was designed to replace the BM-21 Grad multiple rocket launcher systems of the Indian Army.
A multifaceted system, the Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher (MBRL) grants the Pinaka concentrated firepower to destroy enemy targets. The Pinaka is also proving to be a test-bed for the fruitful partnerships that can be developed between the government and the private sector to address challenges and to collaborate and bring on indigenous innovation, as well as provide frameworks for working together.
Speaking to BusinessLine about the recent strategic partnership policy announcements, Chaudhry termed it the “government’s empathetic announcement that private sector participation in defence is the new normal in this sector.”
Sources added that “though the army has inducted Pinaka Mark-I, it is an unguided area weapon. Mark-II is in the trial phase. There are major differences between the two. Mark-II is guided and the range has been extended. The rocket propellant has been redesigned and can be fixed on to the same barrel, so one does not have to change barrels and can fire simultaneously. Mark-I can fire at 35 km, now this has been extended to 55 km.”
Speaking of the advanced Pinaka, DRDO sources said, the “System on-board accuracy has been increased. The extra aerodynamics would help destroy the same area with fewer rockets, leading to less damage.”
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...of-pinaka-rocket-launchers/article9722264.ece
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So? The warhead payload is still higher than 122mm
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Replying to this question for the second time on the SAME page:-Pinaka Mk-1 rocket carries a heavier payload and to a greater range than the Grad does.
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Seems people are confused here. Let me clear the air.
Pinaka Mk. I = 40km range (in production)
Pinaka Mk. II = 65km range (in production)
Pinaka Mk. II GMBRL = 75km range (in trials) - will be named Pinaka Mk. III
Pinaka 2 - Proposed desi 300mm MBRL
Pinaka Mk. I = 40km range (in production)
Pinaka Mk. II = 65km range (in production)
Pinaka Mk. II GMBRL = 75km range (in trials) - will be named Pinaka Mk. III
Pinaka 2 - Proposed desi 300mm MBRL
