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Haldilal

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@Haldilal . Remember a Mumbai Pilot named Amol Yadav build a small Aircraft in his House. What happened to him now.

Thrust Aircraft Private Limited

They have some vision plan but unfortunately there is no big news after 2017.
Ya'll Nibbiars

 

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Good that discourse has reached here, big boys will figure out the rest of the path.

another missing piece is self-promotion. in western scientific community there is a strong element of self-promotion which goes along with their scientific innovations, if they are working on something their media will make sure the whole world knows about it, even if results are years away.

in our case, more is reported about western scientific innovations however small than our own. for example, "science journalism" at coupta's print is just making a video about some western science article for most part.

how many articles and videos were made about NIOT and their deep sea programmes beyond their press releases ? not much.
 

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It's in Marathi
 

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In this regard what Soko and Japan achieved is admirable.they acquired 2-3 generation behind tech through TOT from west and worked parallely to achieve or surpassed their western counterparts. Obviously state played huge role by protecting these companies.
In our country the culture is more of Dalai rather than putting effort in R&D. That is also reflected in governmental procurement always importing and adamant on TOT.
 

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Got 12.90 Crore as a Research Funding from Maha Gov.

Also claimed his current 6-seater aircraft can operate on all Indian Airports without issue. The Piston engine can operate on wide variety of Petrol quality without issue. Also, he is saying this small seater aircraft is going to boom in coming years.
 

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Good that discourse has reached here, big boys will figure out the rest of the path.

another missing piece is self-promotion. in western scientific community there is a strong element of self-promotion which goes along with their scientific innovations, if they are working on something their media will make sure the whole world knows about it, even if results are years away.

in our case, more is reported about western scientific innovations however small than our own. for example, "science journalism" at coupta's print is just making a video about some western science article for most part.

how many articles and videos were made about NIOT and their deep sea programmes beyond their press releases ? not much.
proper domestic science reporting inspires kids to take up science as a profession, if they see only white people as scientists all through out their lives, they may start presuming that maybe only white people are allowed to be scientists.
 

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Richard Rossow has spent too much time on India, so much so that he is behaving like that picky choosy aunty at marriages who has a problem with every thing during the marriage and makes sure everyone knows about her feelings :troll:

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India is going to miss its year-end renewable energy target by a significant margin. Rooftop solar has been the biggest laggard.
The @ADB_HQ offers a helpful report on getting back on track through demand aggregation. Discom as investor or facilitator.

Almost everyone in my town is installing solar panel,it has created a shortage due to excess demand.
Don't know the situation in big cities.
 

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Almost everyone in my town is installing solar panel,it has created a shortage due to excess demand.
Don't know the situation in big cities.
he does these things time and again, last year he said solar water pump programme had "failed" because farmers with solar pumps supply water to neighbouring fields in lieu of money. farmers helping each other out is common practice, it's part of agri economy, they share equipment and resources just like murican farmers do, but he used that info to induce doubts about the whole programme.
 

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I can tell about our IT sector..

Our IT giants are L#de ke giants.. they keep undercutting each other by charging single digit dollars and paying pennies to the majority of their employees. No work life balance , no trust among employee and employer , no scope for the employee to learn new technologies while dwindling under monotonous job.
These maggots are Call centre of IT world. I don't expect a penny in R&D from them.
 

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BHARAT has announced to build a 1,700 km 'frontier highway' near the China border by 2027 The two-lane highway, NH-913, will aim to stop infiltration in the border areas of the northeast.

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I can tell about our IT sector..

Our IT giants are L#de ke giants.. they keep undercutting each other by charging single digit dollars and paying pennies to the majority of their employees. No work life balance , no trust among employee and employer , no scope for the employee to learn new technologies while dwindling under monotonous job.
These maggots are Call centre of IT world. I don't expect a penny in R&D from them.
This is not just limited to the IT sector but all other sectors too. At least I.T employees are paid a somewhat decent salary as per Indian standards. Imagine the plight of some mechanical or electrical engineer working 24x7 in a hazardous plant for a salary between 2.4-3.2 lakh.
 

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PLI in Auto sector has been a great success. Hope this is the same story in electronics manufacturing as well.

 

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proper domestic science reporting inspires kids to take up science as a profession, if they see only white people as scientists all through out their lives, they may start presuming that maybe only white people are allowed to be scientists.
case in point is Anand Ranganathan, a legit scientist who is in limelight because of his political views. if he was an strong advocate for scientific temperament in Indian society instead of his political views, would he be given the amount of space in the limelight as he is getting now? the answer is no.

needless to say, his life his choice. but is a case of path not taken, by Indian society as a whole. we may never be able to calculate the loss since this path is not taken. scientific temperament has a direct correlation to a country's prosperity, especially for countries which do not have abundant natural resources.

it can also be said, political discourse is choking out all other discourse, as things stand today. there is an imbalance in the discourse.
 

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PLI in Auto sector has been a great success. Hope this is the same story in electronics manufacturing as well.

While the PLI will succeed for the higher end of manufacturing investments, it will ultimately make no big difference to India's overall manufacturing sector. Come back to this comment in 10 years and i will bet the manufacturing % of GDP will still be around 20%. For India's manufacturing to take off, there needs to be dedicated industrial banks that set certain lending targets each year and give away cheap credit. To prevent an NPA crisis, there should be severe penalties for those who take loans and dont deliver (eg. taking a loan to set up a factory but instead putting the money into real estate). Ultimately India's MSME and smaller industrialists simply don't scale up, And there is very little capital being invested into different industrial sectors. For example, why are there still 0 new Indian companies that are trying to be our own Xiaomi or Huawei.
 

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And of course, the single biggest reason for growth being stuck at 6% is because there are like 8 states in the entire country that is powering the growth.
 

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While the PLI will succeed for the higher end of manufacturing investments, it will ultimately make no big difference to India's overall manufacturing sector. Come back to this comment in 10 years and i will bet the manufacturing % of GDP will still be around 20%. For India's manufacturing to take off, there needs to be dedicated industrial banks that set certain lending targets each year and give away cheap credit. To prevent an NPA crisis, there should be severe penalties for those who take loans and dont deliver (eg. taking a loan to set up a factory but instead putting the money into real estate). Ultimately India's MSME and smaller industrialists simply don't scale up, And there is very little capital being invested into different industrial sectors. For example, why are there still 0 new Indian companies that are trying to be our own Xiaomi or Huawei.
I am not sure it is always about the capital. 99% of Indian MSMEs have not integrated themselves into global supply chains which is what brings best practices and capital from the procurer. This is because they have mostly catered to low quality Indian consumer expectations. Also, there has always been a severe lack of quality engineering talent in India. Until recently, logistics was non-existent. Militant trade unions, bureaucratic red tape, corrupt nationalized banks with huge NPAs due to agricultural loan freebies all combined to wreak havoc. Remember most things changed only after Modi took over in 2014. Prior to that it would be impossible for most MSMEs especially those in backward states to even think about integration into global supply chains. Entire concepts like multi modal logistics parks, ease of doing business, multi modal transportation, insolvency and bankruptcy code, etc simply did not exist. Plus the Congis gave rise to corrupt, crony capitalists that all cheated one way or the other. Think about all the companies started in Congi era:
- Deccan airlines
- Jet Airways
- Sahara
- GMR airports
- Satyam IT
- Cafe Coffee Day
- NDTV
- Sterlite
- various Jewellers
- various 2G companies
- ICICI Bank
- Videocon
- various agricultural societies
- various home appliance companies like Khaitan, Crompton Greaves, Keltron
and so many more.

None of them have survived or are struggling or their former CEOs arrested for frauds. Many fraudulent loans were given by banks to Congi chamchas during UPA rule resulting in massive NPAs. Maun Mohan Singh was totally played by Sonia & Company. Proper lending by banks to MSMEs to facilitate integration with global supply chains must have commenced as early as 2001 when China was actively doing so. But the Congi fools failed to quickly build infrastructure and capitalize on the globalization of manufacturing. Now we are playing catch up in a global economy wrecked by the Wuhan virus and Russia-Ukraine war. The bankruptcy in 1991 followed by chaotic administration of India for 20+ years by anti-development parties including the UPA pretty much let China race ahead of us. Only IT, which did not have much government intervention, thrived. Manufacturing was toast. No FDI, no global expertise, nothing. Just massive brain drain out of India.
 

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Again I will be abused by blind devotees of BJPee for posting this
Dont bother. BJP has successfully made the country be happy with 6% growth. Wont be surprised when growth drops to 5% and they will find some way to boast as being 3rd biggest economy. Reminds me of this meme. Except you can make the podium difference 10x bigger as there will be a $20 trillion gap

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