Indian Economy: News and Discussion

[Abhijat]

The problem with primary education is two fold :

1. From Provider side, i.e lack of trained teachers, old pedagogy system, and others. New education policy targets this side and there is PM SHRI scheme to do the same.

2. From Acceptor side, i.e students and their families. What most people have no idea about the socio-economic condition of the students and there general background. When attending school is just for various monetary benefit it provides in form various resources distributed throughout the session. And most importantly the first generation learner in the family.

All I want to say is there are various nuances involved and government and civil societies knows them. Our school attendance ratio has improved and so would learning outcomes.

We may not be the fastest one out there in terms of improvement of HDI , but we surely are doing at steady pace. So have some fking faith.

 

[AnantS]

Various Industries Must open and operate Apprentice Schools in hinterland. Actually investing in trade and technical education for hinterland - that should be the only CSR avenue for Industries. We should ensure hinterland produces skilled force.

 

[Cheepek]

LOL really? So they're going to somehow keep track of all numbers that blocked them, and then deny the people loans later by associating the identity with the number, that too on the spot?

I guess it was a typical tongue in cheek comment, but Twitter junta is so angry

 

[Shuturmurg]

Their entire prosperity is centered around Jakarta which is totally unsustainable, such dependence on one city makes sense for smaller countries like Thailand and Malaysia but not for a hugely populated country like Indonesia. Moreover their economy despite being the biggest in Asean isn't as industrialized with their biggest exports being oil and gas, minerals, crude palm oil, and rubber products unlike manufacturing in case of Vietnam, Malaysia or Thailand or services in case of Phillipines. Moreover all videos of Jakarta is the same few square kilometers of their buisness district and very less videos on the rest of the city.

Jakarta is like NCR, has many satellite cities. Entire population of capital region is around 3.5 crore, 15% of population. Equivalent in India would be a metro city with 21 crore population.

 

[SKC]

Don't China have a similar education system to us where rote memorization is the norm. Why are they doing so much better than us apart from the fact that their economy is so much bigger than ours.

With such a big economy, they have ton of money to spend on universities and colleges.

Students get funded well by the industry; grants given quickly. Even if they fail, grants never stop. Students are hired much more quickly by the Industries and Business.

 

[SKC]

Education upto class 10 should be solid no compromise.
A kid should know basic Algebra.
Read write and speak decent English.
Have decent knowledge of world and national history.

Alas, the gormint schools here only operate a daycare centers.

Govt is doing reverse.

Till 2000s the school curricullum was excellent. The issue was with the Infra and the poor stock of teacher across the country. Many states would do random teacher bharti where they would select any aira gera as Teacher in order to show Job creations.

Now teaching quality and School infra is improving but the course currlicullam is diluting.
So much of content has been removed and mutliple books merged into 1-2 books. From 4 books of maths it has been reduced to 2. With time there will be only 1 in 11th and 12th.

 

[SKC]

90 ke niche le kar aao yar. Main gaadi chhor kar scooter par aa gya hun!!

 

[Shuturmurg]

90 ke niche le kar aao yar. Main gaadi chhor kar scooter par aa gya hun!!

In that case they should increase it another 50%, you will move to cycle, will get healthier.

 

[SKC]

Or they could just start a small business by taking a Mudra loan. You don't need to be super educated for that.

True! A bulk of students who score from 40% to 60% in school till colleges end up doing some business and earn more than the ones scoring 80-100%.

Making a Rs 1 cr per yr turnover business is not that difficult in current market.

 

[SKC]

Even Tata ,Infy or any other company (in IT side of things... R&D is meh.. its products used for your visa applications only).

In early 2000's china was way behind then India in IT side of things. Chinese apps were $#!t (qq etc), but the chinese firewall ensured that $#!t was used by public and in time improved and sprang their own ecosystem.

Indian products wont have that luxury. Take Airtel's hike messenger, even with all money power and good product it could not challenge what's app. Eventually it has shutdown. But not all is gloom, Indian IT can shine if they cater products and services for Indian masses- serving their cultural needs and unique way of lives - especially in hinterland.

We need to define clear distinction between:

IT services companies - TCS/Infy/HCL/Wipro/CTS and
The Big Tech - MAANG/FANG.

We often confuse one with other.

 

[SKC]

In that case they should increase it another 50%, you will move to cycle, will get healthier.

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[Physx32]

I school level maybe similar .. But colleges is where they absolutely mog us .. They have actual colleges that do research and sheet .. we have good tier 1 and maybe 2 colleges which are good mostly because the students are brainy but everything else is 12th / PU level but with more complicated subjects .. Honestly I felt college was a step down from school.

Completely disagree with you. From my experience, it's in schools where students get wasted (mugging up BS all year to pass exams). Then in college, there's lot more freedom to do something else. Of course, it depends on the college.

 

[karn]

Completely disagree with you. From my experience, it's in schools where students get wasted (mugging up BS all year to pass exams). Then in college, there's lot more freedom to do something else. Of course, it depends on the college.

Hmm perhaps I'm biased ..Cause in ISC we had to actually learn programming with good logic and all . Except math we had to mug up everything else ofcourse .In college programs in computer classes and math were also mugged up . My math and coding skills went down in college .

 

[Vinash]

Don't China have a similar education system to us where rote memorization is the norm. Why are they doing so much better than us apart from the fact that their economy is so much bigger than ours.

This is a Government school in China. The facilities seem to be on par with any top tier Private School in India.

Shouldn't underestimate China.

 

[Suryavanshi]

This is a Government school in China. The facilities seem to be on par with any top tier Private School in India.

Shouldn't underestimate China.

In which city the urban government schools are a bit better here as well

 

[Jimih]

This is a Government school in China. The facilities seem to be on par with any top tier Private School in India.

Shouldn't underestimate China.

One of the reasons why Chinese Govt schools are good in comparision to any Private schools in both domestic and countries in its neighbourhood because CPC led China is slowly finishing Private schools and private education sector in China.

 

[Vinash]

One of the reasons why Chinese Govt schools are good in comparision to any Private schools both domestic and foreign because CPC led China is slowly finishing Private schools and private education sector in China.

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Yeah I remember Xi going after the private tutoring sector an year or two ago.

 

[Shuturmurg]

One of the reasons why Chinese Govt schools are good in comparision to any Private schools both domestic and foreign because CPC led China is slowly finishing Private schools and education sector in China.

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Finland also has same system, for profit schools are abolished. Only govt. schools and non-profit trusts run schools. Over 95% govt. school. Since rich people send their kids to govt. school, there is huge lobbying pressure for good education.

 

[ezsasa]

Don't China have a similar education system to us where rote memorization is the norm. Why are they doing so much better than us apart from the fact that their economy is so much bigger than ours.

even if there are flaws in their system, we wouldn't know about it, like every other data point that comes out of china. state education is a compulsion for communist regime, if they allow the kind of free thinking that our education system allows, there will be a revolution which is a bigger fear for them, sustaining the maoist indoctrination is a bigger priority for them.