Indian Counter Terror Operations Pictures & Discussions

[Flame Thrower]

Intruder barges into Farookh Abdullah's house!

He smashed through the main gate with his SUV! WTF were the security personnel doing? The intruder even tried to snatch a weapon from a policeman. This is a massive security breach.

But Farook, his son Omar, the Left and the Cong's pseudo liberal brigade are going to blame Modi and the RSS!

I'm waiting for Pappu's Tweet slamming Modi!

Wish he had killed both of'em.

Killing them will make them martyrs, but atleast road blocks in Kashmir will get reduced.

We can also use this excuse to hit more porki camps.

 

[apoorv465]

This pig is seen in funeral of many terrorists, when we are going to eliminate him?

 

[The Ultranationalist]

This pig is seen in funeral of many terrorists, when we are going to eliminate him?

Soon these islamic piggies will be needing other swine like them to give them too a gun salute.

 

[The Ultranationalist]

This pig is seen in funeral of many terrorists, when we are going to eliminate him?

Soon these islamic piggies will be needing other swine like themselves to give them too a gun salute.

 

[Jameson Emoni]

Other way around...

Think paki army as Hamas and Palestine as Pakistan.

No matter how much Palestinians suffer, they will never criticise Hamas.

Like I always say, brits made sure there are similarities in India-Pakistan and Israel-Palestine story.

It is naive to see similarity between India vs Pakistan and Israel vs Palestine. Palestine does not have a large military. Palestine does not have nuclear weapons. Palestine did not receive military aid from US and China. On top of all that, Israel receives $30B plus weapons in aid from the US per year. So let us stop this non-sense of comparing India's situation with Israel's situation.

 

[ezsasa]

It is naive to see similarity between India vs Pakistan and Israel vs Palestine. Palestine does not have a large military. Palestine does not have nuclear weapons. Palestine did not receive military aid from US and China. On top of all that, Israel receives $30B plus weapons in aid from the US per year. So let us stop this non-sense of comparing India's situation with Israel's situation.

My point is far more limited..
isn't it the case that the tactics used by jihadis from palestine against israel the same with pak and india?

Let's look at similarities in tactics against israel:

Stone throwing - Check
Provocation of security forces by civilians - Check
Projecting israel as oppressive force - Check
Sending gunmen and suicide bomber from palestine to israel - check
Hamas training young children against Israel : check

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

TATA MPV , OFB Aditya MPV & Takshak APC
Never seen these 3 together

 

[arya]

We should use sniper / attacking drones to attack on terrorist . why separatist leaders moving freely .

 

[Enquirer]

My point is far more limited..
isn't it the case that the tactics used by jihadis from palestine against israel the same with pak and india?

Let's look at similarities in tactics against israel:

Stone throwing - Check
Provocation of security forces by civilians - Check
Projecting israel as oppressive force - Check
Sending gunmen and suicide bomber from palestine to israel - check
Hamas training young children against Israel : check

India's situation is slightly worse.
Israel doesn't care for the welfare of Palestinians - the entire international community pours billions of $$ into Palestine to support their welfare (while Palestinians focus their productive lives on Jihad).
But India cares for Kashmiris - in fact, the rest of India subsidizes much of the luxuries Kashmiris enjoy (fleeced from poor hard working Indians from other states)

 

[Jameson Emoni]

India's situation is slightly worse.
Israel doesn't care for the welfare of Palestinians - the entire international community pours billions of $$ into Palestine to support their welfare (while Palestinians focus their productive lives on Jihad).
But India cares for Kashmiris - in fact, the rest of India subsidizes much of the luxuries Kashmiris enjoy (fleeced from poor hard working Indians from other states)

Current Indian administration should end the subsidy for Kashmir ASAP.

 

[Enquirer]

Look at the size of this village/town Killora!
5 terrorists killed, 100+ protesters (of which 20 injured)!
Does seem like the entire village was in on the jihad!!!

 

[Flame Thrower]

Current Indian administration should end the subsidy for Kashmir ASAP.

I believe you're suggesting to remove subsidiaries for Kashmir Valley people.

Does this make Kashmir Valley people fall in line.....!!??

Or help separatist rants.....

One of the main reason for any chaos is more hungry people....And govts inability to feed them.

How do you think UN will react!!??

Are the Fanatics of kashmir not enough!!! You wanna add more fuel to fire....!!!??

What answers would you give....!! when liberals show the dead children due to starvation!!?? How would you respond to UN's questions on inhumane nature of not providing food(removing subsidiaries is not, but international left will make sure both are same) how would you counter their propaganda!!?? And adding stupid whatsapp propaganda to the mix would be a disaster, which we both can't probably fathom!!!!!!

There are many other things which I've not posted.

Think calmly and you would be able to see all the problems and the consequences associated with such act.

There are ways and methods to keep terrorists and hurriyats check, removing subsidiaries is definitely not one of'em.

Do you ever think why only Pak brings Kashmir issue and not India(about PoK. Ever heard of the conditions for plebiscite.)

Kashmir issue is not 2 min maggie.....

Don't let your anger do the talking, it usually creates more mess than it solves!!!!!

 

[Enquirer]

I believe you're suggesting to remove subsidiaries for Kashmir Valley people.

Does this make Kashmir Valley people fall in line.....!!??

Or help separatist rants.....

One of the main reason for any chaos is more hungry people....And govts inability to feed them.

How do you think UN will react!!??

Are the Fanatics of kashmir not enough!!! You wanna add more fuel to fire....!!!??

What answers would you give....!! when liberals show the dead children due to starvation!!?? How would you respond to UN's questions on inhumane nature of not providing food(removing subsidiaries is not, but international left will make sure both are same) how would you counter their propaganda!!?? And adding stupid whatsapp propaganda to the mix would be a disaster, which we both can't probably fathom!!!!!!

There are many other things which I've not posted.

Think calmly and you would be able to see all the problems and the consequences associated with such act.

There are ways and methods to keep terrorists and hurriyats check, removing subsidiaries is definitely not one of'em.

Do you ever think why only Pak brings Kashmir issue and not India(about PoK. Ever heard of the conditions for plebiscite.)

Kashmir issue is not 2 min maggie.....

Don't let your anger do the talking, it usually creates more mess than it solves!!!!!

Why do you jump to the extreme? Who's suggesting that Kashmiris should be starved??
For the last 70 years Kashmiris have enjoyed FREE HAJJ TRIPS to Mecca. Given that Kashmir is 90%+ Muslim, it's fair to say that Kashmir got the lions share of the 10s of billions India as a whole spent of Free Hajj for Indian Muslims! (this stupid practice is set to slow down and shut down per recent Supreme court directive)!

90% of the cost of transportation (especially the fancy train rides) are subsidized by the Central govt!

Food, Education, Electricity etc are also heavily subsidized; but those can be left alone. At least the subsidies for fancy crap should be eliminated - not as a punishment for jihad but as a moral obligation to be just and fair to everyone in the country!

 

[Flame Thrower]

Why do you jump to the extreme? Who's suggesting that Kashmiris should be starved??
For the last 70 years Kashmiris have enjoyed FREE HAJJ TRIPS to Mecca. Given that Kashmir is 90%+ Muslim, it's fair to say that Kashmir got the lions share of the 10s of billions India as a whole spent of Free Hajj for Indian Muslims! (this stupid practice is set to slow down and shut down per recent Supreme court directive)!

90% of the cost of transportation (especially the fancy train rides) are subsidized by the Central govt!

Food, Education, Electricity etc are also heavily subsidized; but those can be left alone. At least the subsidies for fancy crap should be eliminated - not just as a punishment for jihad but as a moral obligation to be just and fair to everyone in the country!

Removing subsidiaries (on food) will starve them, I was more focused on food front.

Yeah, I agree that fancy crap should go. Governor rule has just started, we are doing well on propaganda front as well. Remover 30 useless channels ar so. Who know what more might follow....

 

[Jameson Emoni]

Removing subsidiaries (on food) will starve them, I was more focused on food front.

Yeah, I agree that fancy crap should go. Governor rule has just started, we are doing well on propaganda front as well. Remover 30 useless channels ar so. Who know what more might follow....

Subsidy does not necessarily mean food. In this case, subsidy means free money from the central government. Standard of living in Kashmir is much higher than many other Indian states. It is wrong to continue to give money to a state which is far better off than other states.

 

[ezsasa]

Subsidy does not necessarily mean food. In this case, subsidy means free money from the central government. Standard of living in Kashmir is much higher than many other Indian states. It is wrong to continue to give money to a state which is far better off than other states.

Do you have the latest figures on J&K subsidy, 2014-2018?

 

[Enquirer]

Do you have the latest figures on J&K subsidy, 2014-2018?

J&K gets 10% of Central funds with only 1% of population

"Central grants accounting for 54 per cent of the state’s total revenue and 44 per cent of its expenditure in FY16"
(This with J&K not contributing anything via central excise collections etc)

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...with-only-1-of-population/article14506264.ece

 

[Haldiram]

J&K gets 10% of Central funds with only 1% of population

"Central grants accounting for 54 per cent of the state’s total revenue and 44 per cent of its expenditure in FY16"
(This with J&K not contributing anything via central excise collections etc)

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...with-only-1-of-population/article14506264.ece

A lot of that is spent on development of infrastructure that is favorable to India.

Out of the most recent 25,000 crore package that Kashmir got, 16,000 crore went to Salal power plant. 5000 crore for Jammu rail link (to connect Jammu directly to mainland India (Jalandhar) without passing through Kashmir). This will grant autonomy for flow of man and material during times of war. 2000 crore was spent on roads. There was even an all weather tunnel built recently which has dual use in military situations. The increase in spending is proportional to Chinese spending on infrastructure on the eastern border.

 

[Enquirer]

A lot of that is spent on development of infrastructure that is favorable to India.

Out of the most recent 25,000 crore package that Kashmir got, 16,000 crore went to Salal power plant. 5000 crore for Jammu rail link (to connect Jammu directly to mainland India (Jalandhar) without passing through Kashmir). This will grant autonomy for flow of man and material during times of war. 2000 crore was spent on roads. There was even an all weather tunnel built recently which has dual use in military situations. The increase in spending is proportional to Chinese spending on infrastructure on the eastern border.

With all due respect, conversations go south when folks state fictional things and then try to defend it ruthlessly.

"to connect Jammu directly to mainland India (Jalandhar) without passing through Kashmir"
The above statement makes absolutely no sense from a geographical point of view. Punjab & Jammu are contiguous. Kashmir lies beyond....beyond the Pir Panjal!!!
Jammu was always connected to the rest of India. Jammu-to-Kanyakumari train has been running for atleast 50 years!!!

The biggest challenge was to connect Jammu with Kashmir via rail - because that involved tunneling through the Pir Panjal. Despite the huge costs, Indian Railways went ahead with it just so that Kashmiris are well connected with the rest of India. In fact the businesses in Kashmir benefit immensely because it costs much less and takes much less time to transport goods!
Also the railway line from Baramulla to Banihal (within Kashmir valley) itself is a big boon for Kashmiri passengers - who ride it immensely. The costs are also subsidized 90%! Ask any Kashmiri, how much convenient the trains are and how cheap they are!

The military infrastructure build up is done with Central organizations like 'Border Roads Organization'. This money doesn't go to J&K state government & is NOT part of the 'grants' mentioned in the article. Grants are exclusively to State project like building schools, welfare etc.

Also, some dams are constructed directly by Center & some by the State (either with own money or thru money given as grants); the state constructed dams have full rights over the electricity generated & even make revenue by selling it to other states. Center (directly) funded dams also provide electricity to J&K!

 

[Haldiram]

With all due respect, conversations go south when folks state fictional things and then try to defend it ruthlessly.

"to connect Jammu directly to mainland India (Jalandhar) without passing through Kashmir"
The above statement makes absolutely no sense from a geographical point of view. Punjab & Jammu are contiguous. Kashmir lies beyond....beyond the Pir Panjal!!!
Jammu was always connected to the rest of India. Jammu-to-Kanyakumari train has been running for atleast 50 years!!!

The biggest challenge was to connect Jammu with Kashmir via rail - because that involved tunneling through the Pir Panjal. Despite the huge costs, Indian Railways went ahead with it just so that Kashmiris are well connected with the rest of India. In fact the businesses in Kashmir benefit immensely because it costs much less and takes much less time to transport goods!
Also the railway line from Baramulla to Banihal (within Kashmir valley) itself is a big boon for Kashmiri passengers - who ride it immensely. The costs are also subsidized 90%! Ask any Kashmiri, how much convenient the trains are and how cheap they are!

The military infrastructure build up is done with Central organizations like 'Border Roads Organization'. This money doesn't go to J&K state government & is NOT part of the 'grants' mentioned in the article. Grants are exclusively to State project like building schools, welfare etc.

Also, some dams are constructed directly by Center & some by the State (either with own money or thru money given as grants); the state constructed dams have full rights over the electricity generated & even make revenue by selling it to other states. Center (directly) funded dams also provide electricity to J&K!

The fact is that the Jammu-Udhampur link is a multi phase project which is still under construction for which the money is being poured in.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammu–Baramulla_line

The Jammu–Baramulla line is a railway line[1] under construction to connect the Kashmir Valley in the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir with the rest of the country. The 345-kilometre (214 mi) line begins in Jammu and ends in Baramulla. Construction of the route faced natural challenges including major earthquake zones, extreme temperatures and inhospitable terrain.[2]

Part of the Jammu division of Indian Railways' Northern zone, the line has been under construction since 2002.

It's Jammu - Udhampur - Srinagar - Baramulla

And Jammu Tawi - Jalandar (73 km)



The rails are dual purpose. Even civilian rail lines whenever they are constructed are built with the calculation to make sure they can bear the weight of tanks in times of emergency. That doesn't mean they have to ferry tanks to and from from Kashmir to Kanyakumari everyday to prove to you that they are dual purpose. Grants are given to states but it is based on the condition that the infrastructure be made available to the center in times of war. Even the clause with private defense companies mentions that the center can take over the production facility in times of war.

A major chunk of the central grants goes towards 3 power projects in J&K : Salal (16k crore), Durhasti (94.8k crore), Uri (3.6k crore). This makes J&K a power surplus state. In times of contingency, these power plants have excess capacity to plug into the power grid that supplies energy to the military infrastructure that India has in the state. In times of peace, the power is sold to neighboring states.

The center has made a investment and there is a revenue sharing arrangement where the center recovers its investment. The state contributes upfront by giving up large tracts of land. The center contributes by investing in the infrastructure costs. When electricity is sold to the end user, both the center and the state recover their money in proportion to the contribution they made to the project.

Jammu and Kashmir has potential to provide electricity to country: PM Modi << May 20, 2018

The nature of hydel electricity is that it has to be set up in the place where the water flow is. So it appears that a lot of money is being spent in a particular state. Do you want the government to install hydro electricity plants in the deserts of Rajasthan, just so you can feel better?