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I suspected even when pathankot happened. Para SF seems to be doing way better all these elite specialised commandos even when it comes to close combat as a squad. Although Para SF role is to have more offensive.
Funny...I thought you know more about how armed forces function.

In the armed forces....there are roles allocated to every team. These teams are supposed to fill their part by any and all means necessary. In failure of doing so is considered as failure to comply the direct order.

In case of Phatankot the role of Garuds was to protect the capital assets.....nothing more nothing less! Period!! Does anyone remember similar kind of attack on Pak naval base in 2011. If not go through this link.

https://www.dawn.com/news/630878

In that attack 2 Orions and a helo was destroyed.

Garuds performed excellently, they prevented the destruction of IAF aircraft thus saved us a lot of embarrassment.

They held their ground and didn't chase the terrorists.

If you want to know more on how armed forces function then pls ask gurus @Mikesingh & @Kunal Biswas

If you still don't understand then I'll not disturb you from your delusion.
 

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WTF is wrong with some people....

Some bastard had his lucky day and you're suspecting the training of your SFs.

This is a war of attrition....it wouldn't be too long before the rats who feared daddi wala fauj will give a respectable name to our fearsome garuds....it just takes some time to build the reputation.

That wouldn't be too long.... who feels that garuds need time...start counting the days...
The point is not all SF are at the same level of COIN ops experience.
 

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I already said that the basic difference between a haramkhor ugarvadi and a commando is of mentality.

You cannot compare pathankkot with this operation.

Pathankot was like surprize for the security personals deployed there.

This operation was planned and offensive to eliminate the ugarvadi and intruders with all the intel on ground, medics ust 100mtrs snipers all ready , full fledged team.

Not one but both two got hit? If it was one i would digest that okay he might have exposed himself, but both were out in open that both got mortally hit?
I don't question anything but there is some lapse this is why this happened.And Garud cannot afford lose games.


Funny...I thought you know more about how armed forces function.

In the armed forces....there are roles allocated to every team. These teams are supposed to fill their part by any and all means necessary. In failure of doing so is considered as failure to comply the direct order.

In case of Phatankot the role of Garuds was to protect the capital assets.....nothing more nothing less! Period!! Does anyone remember similar kind of attack on Pak naval base in 2011. If not go through this link.

https://www.dawn.com/news/630878

In that attack 2 Orions and a helo was destroyed.

Garuds performed excellently, they prevented the destruction of IAF aircraft thus saved us a lot of embarrassment.

They held their ground and didn't chase the terrorists.

If you want to know more on how armed forces function then pls ask gurus @Mikesingh & @Kunal Biswas

If you still don't understand then I'll not disturb you from your delusion.
 

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I already said that the basic difference between a haramkhor ugarvadi and a commando is of mentality.

You cannot compare pathankkot with this operation.

Pathankot was like surprize for the security personals deployed there.

This operation was planned and offensive to eliminate the ugarvadi and intruders with all the intel on ground, medics ust 100mtrs snipers all ready , full fledged team.

Not one but both two got hit? If it was one i would digest that okay he might have exposed himself, but both were out in open that both got mortally hit?
I don't question anything but there is some lapse this is why this happened.And Garud cannot afford lose games.
The inferences below are speculation on my part:

My assessment is that our armed forces are very brave and also have a macho can do attitude. As a result they may be taking risks and rushing in when it MAY be possible to stretch out the encounter, use overwhelming force, wait for drone assets etc.

It is also possible that they are under pressure to act quickly due to hostile locals, hostile Paki/congress sympathetic media.

There is time for bravery (e.g. many assaults during the Kargil war) and a time for more deliberate circumspect action (e.g. while taking out holed up tangos).

(this post is not written to criticize our soldiers and officers, rather just wondering if there are other operational tactics that could minimize loss of life for our forces - in some encounter situations)
 
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2017/10/11 Hajin, Bandipora:

Notice this JKP cop in the picture below - is he really JKP or undercover SF? Notice helmet and webbing

 

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This seems to be the new SOP of the terrorists - escape by breaking the cordon with all guns blazing. It's better than getting killed by staying in the house and putting up a fight where the end is inevitable.
 

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We have to move in again. Kill them before they reach to us. Our soldiers are sitting ducks.
 

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http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...ed-blow-in-their-first-operation-1671290.html

Garuds were with the Army for live situational training. They came in August and this is the first batch. Idea to embedded Garud Commandoes was aimed to mould them into a well-knit fighting force capable of taking on terrorists,” said a defence official.
So who is correct?

This report or Ajai Shukla who says Garuds have been doing this since 2005 and have even eliminated couple of HM commanders?
 

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You see any SF operator with the Balidaan batch and the maroon beret - he has seen active field service in J&K or NE for atleast 6 months. Period.
 

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So who is correct?

This report or Ajai Shukla who says Garuds have been doing this since 2005 and have even eliminated couple of HM commanders?
Garuds were not part of anti terror ops in 2005.They were there for base protection.
 
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