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Reply by Kashmiri "innocent" Muslims on comment of a Kashmiri Pandit on post regarding shooting of Indian loyalist Rashid Billa

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Only solution - Remove Article 370 and flood the valley with our own nationalist people.. all hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians etc etc. They will only realize once they become minorities within their own state. Classic example Chinese HAN population settlement in Tibet. I wish wo din jaldi aaye when we break the J&K into 3 different states.. Jammu.. Kashmir and Ladakh
 

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Only solution - Remove Article 370 and flood the valley with our own nationalist people.. all hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians etc etc. They will only realize once they become minorities within their own state. Classic example Chinese HAN population settlement in Tibet. I wish wo din jaldi aaye when we break the J&K into 3 different states.. Jammu.. Kashmir and Ladakh
I remember an interview by Manohar Parikar in which he said the problem of terrorism is confined to a few districts of Kashmir. He mentioned about other tribes including Paharis meeting defence minister and requesting free hand to deal with kashmiri Muslims. They mentioned they don't need army but they themselves can deal with jihadists. Why don't government give them free hand to deal themselves?
 

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On these stone pelters issue why modi is not uttering a single word. Complete silence on his part... is it a part of a strategy or complete ignorance on his part. Whn I see 56 inch ki chaati roaming on the streets of Gujrat & Orissa claiming his achievemnts, I wonders if this phrase is true "Nero fiddled while Rome burned" Its not that I hate him, but I serioulsy want him to take some visible action and lift the morale of our troops
 

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On these stone pelters issue why modi is not uttering a single word. Complete silence on his part... is it a part of a strategy or complete ignorance on his part. Whn I see 56 inch ki chaati roaming on the streets of Gujrat & Orissa claiming his achievemnts, I wonders if this phrase is true "Nero fiddled while Rome burned" Its not that I hate him, but I serioulsy want him to take some visible action and lift the morale of our troops
More importantly why is no one in the media asking this question? Media used to hold modi responsible for everything before UP elections, now no one is asking this question.
 

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Our Indian law grants right of self defence. When stone Pelters are throwing stone, if it hits anyone, can cause grievous hurt. Since Supreme Court of India these days is playing the role of an activist for human rights, let them decide what force can be used against the stone Pelters in right to self defence. Let Supreme Court decide what amount of force can be used when there is a crowd of 100+ stone Pelters attacking you. The best thing will be a judicial officer or magistrate accompanied by each police deployment against stone Pelters. Let judicial magistrate remain at the front and get stone Pelters face him. Let him decide in every situation the amount of force to be used. Once he is hit badly, let's ask him if he would order shooting as the stones thrown can take anyone's life including that of judicial magistrate. Once he gives go ahead fire and kill as many as you can. No media or political party can question army or paramilitary as the shooting was done at the order of judicial magistrate.

Judicial activism on part of higher courts is good, but they should step into the shoes of our jawans who face these pelters daily.

Similarly each such unit should be accompanied with one journalist and one representative of each political party in the forefront to face the pelters so that they should also see the gravity of situation and think 1000 times before uttering BS on media.(my 2 cents)
 

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Just a silly out of the box idea, so don't take it seriously if you don't like it.

How about flooding the border areas of Kashmir with wolves? It gives tangos an additional unpredictable layer of problem to overcome, if they spot an intruder they can be trained to howl or attack. Once a wolf howls all wolves in the area howl together, can be sort of an advance warning system. Pups can be raised in cantonment till they are 2 years old so that get used to sights and smells of military fatigues, and then left in the wild as packs.

While the problem of wolves attacking civilians exists, that would be a smaller problem that the tango situation.

I am sure there will be ecological zones similar to Kashmir across the globe from where wolf pups can be imported.
 

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Just a silly out of the box idea, so don't take it seriously if you don't like it.

How about flooding the border areas of Kashmir with wolves? It gives tangos an additional unpredictable layer of problem to overcome, if they spot an intruder they can be trained to howl or attack. Once a wolf howls all wolves in the area howl together, can be sort of an advance warning system. Pups can be raised in cantonment till they are 2 years old so that get used to sights and smells of military fatigues, and then left in the wild as packs.

While the problem of wolves attacking civilians exists, that would be a smaller problem that the tango situation.

I am sure there will be ecological zones similar to Kashmir across the globe from where wolf pups can be imported.
What makes you think that wolf will stay in that area ONLY ?

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We already have dogs, No less than 10 in each post ..

We love dogs at field areas ..

Just a silly out of the box idea, so don't take it seriously if you don't like it.

How about flooding the border areas of Kashmir with wolves? It gives tangos an additional unpredictable layer of problem to overcome, if they spot an intruder they can be trained to howl or attack. Once a wolf howls all wolves in the area howl together, can be sort of an advance warning system. Pups can be raised in cantonment till they are 2 years old so that get used to sights and smells of military fatigues, and then left in the wild as packs.

While the problem of wolves attacking civilians exists, that would be a smaller problem that the tango situation.

I am sure there will be ecological zones similar to Kashmir across the globe from where wolf pups can be imported.
 

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What makes you think that wolf will stay in that area ONLY ?

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@Kunal Biswas

There are different breeds of wolves, we can choose the ones which prefer certain altitude and climate.

Wolves cannot be domesticated.

Wolves travel in packs, even if tangos trap or kill one of them others will not stop attacking or howling.

Wolves are territorial, they defend their territory as much as possible. Nobody passes thru their territory without them knowing. This also means there is a chance their territory will extend beyond LoC.

With wolves roaming around, nobody will venture out of their villages at night. We know that there is certain level of support from border villages to tangos. That would mean tangos will be forced to move during during the day.
 

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You cannot expect to introduce a non-native wild animal species and expect it to thrive. the Himalayan wolf is more native to Tibet and in Kashmir is found more in the ladakh area.

A wolf will also play havoc with lifestock and other domesticated animals which is a key revenue source of that area

A wolf cannot be trained and as a general wolf packs avoid human habitation like the plaque unless they are starving.

A dog is 99.9% wolf by DNA. the .01% difference is attributed to Size make up and brain function. I.e Wolves look to pack leader for guidance. Dogs look to Humans for guidance. (even in the wild)

Use a Dog.
 

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Since the removal of article 370 will require a constitutional amendment, you need 2/3 majority in Rajya Sabha. However SuSwamy said only a majority will suffice which we'll be getting in 2018. Don't know which of the two sentences is true.
 

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You cannot expect to introduce a non-native wild animal species and expect it to thrive. the Himalayan wolf is more native to Tibet and in Kashmir is found more in the ladakh area.

A wolf will also play havoc with lifestock and other domesticated animals which is a key revenue source of that area

A wolf cannot be trained and as a general wolf packs avoid human habitation like the plaque unless they are starving.

A dog is 99.9% wolf by DNA. the .01% difference is attributed to Size make up and brain function. I.e Wolves look to pack leader for guidance. Dogs look to Humans for guidance. (even in the wild)

Use a Dog.
My silly idea of this wolf thing is to disrupt the status quo in those areas. It is up to us to decide whether livestock getting killed is a bigger problem than tango infiltration.

Fundamentally I am trying to think of ways to disrupt the current patterns and introduce an element of unpredictability for tangos. It can be anything.

But anyways I will end the discussion on this point here in this thread.
 

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My silly idea of this wolf thing is to disrupt the status quo in those areas. It is up to us to decide whether livestock getting killed is a bigger problem than tango infiltration.

Fundamentally I am trying to think of ways to disrupt the current patterns and introduce an element of unpredictability for tangos. It can be anything.

But anyways I will end the discussion on this point here in this thread.
What if our buddy soldiers get attacked by these wild dogs.
I would prefer hounds over wolf.
Group of hounds are more aggressive than wolves.

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What if our buddy soldiers get attacked by these wild dogs.
I would prefer hounds over wolf.
Group of hounds are more aggressive than wolves.

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I was thinking more like, first two years they are brought up in Cantonment and forward bases to retain their familiarity with our our fatigues , smells and sights .
 
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