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Nice..IA with new Helmet.
Hope.. this better protection ..
I miss Patka... too.. after all it's sign of IA
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Absolutely right the patka just screams IA it's unique to them.
I'd rather that they redesign it and make it lighter so that it can be general issue.
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Kashmir unrest: Handing out freebies to 'secessionist leaders' only damages the government's image
A lot of people are foaming at the mouth over the news that the grandson of Kashmir’s leading "separatist leader" Syed Ali Shah Geelani got a plum job in the government, and that too at the height of the uprising that followed the killing of militant commander Burhan Wani in July 2016.
The government has smoothly pointed out that the rules were followed. Of course, they were! That’s what files are for — that the facade of rules and norms are maintained while rulers grant favours to those who please them.
How many ministers and others (at the corridors of power) have been able to show meticulously followed rulebooks after they were accused of scams worth lakhs of crores of rupees? But does that mean India is scam-mukt?
Has Transparency International consistently been wrong to rate Jammu and Kashmir as the most corrupt state in the country? And if it wasn't true, why did the current coalition’s Agenda for Governance acknowledge that the state is the most corrupt in the country? Are we to believe that bribery, nepotism and political patronage play no role when someone is appointed to a government job?
A dangerous iceberg
This, in any case, is not about Geelani, or his grandson, or a particular job. This revelation is only a tip of a vast iceberg. Amarjit Dulat, the most prominent spook to have "handled" Kashmir, publicly exposed another tip. His book baldly stated that he had arranged admission for the son of Hizbul Mujahideen chief Syed Salahuddin to a government-run engineering college.
In response, Salahuddin too had defended himself with talks of rules, merit and so forth. Of course!
As long as we focus on the tip of the iceberg, we will only entertain the world which is stuck on a reef of rules while the ship (state) continues to sink under its destructive impact.
It's time we recognised the nature of the iceberg as well. For during the past two decades, the Indian state has run a vast patronage system of jobs, bank loans, admissions to the best institutions across the country, properties (including resort hotels and houses in south Delhi), businesses, passports, visas and so forth.
False prescription
At the height of last summer’s uprising, Dulat’s apologists argued in whispers that the uprising was a result of Ajit Doval (also Dulat’s rival) alienating a host of Hurriyat leaders by turning off the tap — the ready flow of loans, admissions and jobs.
It would seem that their arguments made an impact on the government of the day.
If so, it is disastrous. For one thing, it’s one more in the series of the Doval era’s flip-flops. Remember when a Pakistan High Commission was sternly told it could not meet the various so-called leaders of Kashmir’s freedom movement? Also, remember how the same gentlemen were given a red carpet to attend Pakistan Day celebrations? That was not the only flip-flop, though.
Proxy war stage
A more important reason why the flip-flop policy is more disastrous than the Dulat policy is that it's counterproductive. It may have made some sense to hand out freebies to various "leaders" of the "secessionist" brigades when the Government of India was weaning them away from the proxy war. It does not now.
Let’s quickly recap. In the late 1990s, when militancy in Kashmir was largely a proxy war by cadres of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HuM), various "political leaders" of Kashmir's freedom movement had become fed up of militancy as a method.
Although the late Abdul Ghani Lone was the only one who dared to tell then-president Parvez Musharraf and to the ISI chief, several "secessionist leaders" were straining at the leash to change the strategies and even the agenda of the movement. Ironically, it was Geelani who inflexibly prevented any deviation from the Pakistan line at that stage!
The fact is sweeteners were not required to encourage those other leaders, but handing out those sweeteners was defensible.
An indefensible strategy
The situation is very different now. Only a headless chicken would reinstate the strategy of handing out incentives as state policy in this phase. For one thing, it presumes that these "leaders" are in charge of what is unfolding in Kashmir. They are not. According to anecdotal evidence, even Geelani has at times been shown the contents of statements issued in his name after they have been issued.
More importantly, the boys who are at the cutting edge of the unfolding war in Kashmir have no regard for these "leaders" not even Geelani.
The strategy is not only pointless, it is counterproductive to the extent that it angers and further alienates those who see through the games of smoke and mirrors of our spooks and "leaders".
Not only does very little remain hidden in Kashmir, the rumour mills even churn out narratives about "IB ki chaal" (an IB move) that would be way beyond the very limited intelligence of IB employees.
A vast scam
Given the limited intelligence, strategic thinking and tactical abilities of India’s rulers, it is imperative that we the people start understanding the nature of the iceberg. A useful starting point is to understand that the whole set-up is a scam. Most of those disbursing vast oceans of allocations and "secret funds" in Kashmir focus on how to pocket percentages.
Their purchases don’t buy peace. Rather, those who they buy up develop a vested interest in keeping the conflict going — so that more money may flow. And the message goes out is that those who want incentives should join the "secessionist" bands.
Meanwhile, the entire sordid drama disgusts and enrages young idealists, particularly moralist neo-Puritans.
Blood runs in the gutters of the paths that our spooks pave with gold.
http://www.firstpost.com/india/kash...ly-damages-the-governments-image-3317668.html
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While Israel goes out of its way to eliminate its enemies ( rigging mobile phone with bomb),our
India goes out of its way to reward its enemies ( granting grand son of scum Syed Ali Shah Geelani a plum job in the government).
No one is interested in resolving kashmir issue they just want to maintain the status quo!
A lot of people are foaming at the mouth over the news that the grandson of Kashmir’s leading "separatist leader" Syed Ali Shah Geelani got a plum job in the government, and that too at the height of the uprising that followed the killing of militant commander Burhan Wani in July 2016.
The government has smoothly pointed out that the rules were followed. Of course, they were! That’s what files are for — that the facade of rules and norms are maintained while rulers grant favours to those who please them.
How many ministers and others (at the corridors of power) have been able to show meticulously followed rulebooks after they were accused of scams worth lakhs of crores of rupees? But does that mean India is scam-mukt?
Has Transparency International consistently been wrong to rate Jammu and Kashmir as the most corrupt state in the country? And if it wasn't true, why did the current coalition’s Agenda for Governance acknowledge that the state is the most corrupt in the country? Are we to believe that bribery, nepotism and political patronage play no role when someone is appointed to a government job?
A dangerous iceberg
This, in any case, is not about Geelani, or his grandson, or a particular job. This revelation is only a tip of a vast iceberg. Amarjit Dulat, the most prominent spook to have "handled" Kashmir, publicly exposed another tip. His book baldly stated that he had arranged admission for the son of Hizbul Mujahideen chief Syed Salahuddin to a government-run engineering college.
In response, Salahuddin too had defended himself with talks of rules, merit and so forth. Of course!
As long as we focus on the tip of the iceberg, we will only entertain the world which is stuck on a reef of rules while the ship (state) continues to sink under its destructive impact.
It's time we recognised the nature of the iceberg as well. For during the past two decades, the Indian state has run a vast patronage system of jobs, bank loans, admissions to the best institutions across the country, properties (including resort hotels and houses in south Delhi), businesses, passports, visas and so forth.
False prescription
At the height of last summer’s uprising, Dulat’s apologists argued in whispers that the uprising was a result of Ajit Doval (also Dulat’s rival) alienating a host of Hurriyat leaders by turning off the tap — the ready flow of loans, admissions and jobs.
It would seem that their arguments made an impact on the government of the day.
If so, it is disastrous. For one thing, it’s one more in the series of the Doval era’s flip-flops. Remember when a Pakistan High Commission was sternly told it could not meet the various so-called leaders of Kashmir’s freedom movement? Also, remember how the same gentlemen were given a red carpet to attend Pakistan Day celebrations? That was not the only flip-flop, though.
Proxy war stage
A more important reason why the flip-flop policy is more disastrous than the Dulat policy is that it's counterproductive. It may have made some sense to hand out freebies to various "leaders" of the "secessionist" brigades when the Government of India was weaning them away from the proxy war. It does not now.
Let’s quickly recap. In the late 1990s, when militancy in Kashmir was largely a proxy war by cadres of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HuM), various "political leaders" of Kashmir's freedom movement had become fed up of militancy as a method.
Although the late Abdul Ghani Lone was the only one who dared to tell then-president Parvez Musharraf and to the ISI chief, several "secessionist leaders" were straining at the leash to change the strategies and even the agenda of the movement. Ironically, it was Geelani who inflexibly prevented any deviation from the Pakistan line at that stage!
The fact is sweeteners were not required to encourage those other leaders, but handing out those sweeteners was defensible.
An indefensible strategy
The situation is very different now. Only a headless chicken would reinstate the strategy of handing out incentives as state policy in this phase. For one thing, it presumes that these "leaders" are in charge of what is unfolding in Kashmir. They are not. According to anecdotal evidence, even Geelani has at times been shown the contents of statements issued in his name after they have been issued.
More importantly, the boys who are at the cutting edge of the unfolding war in Kashmir have no regard for these "leaders" not even Geelani.
The strategy is not only pointless, it is counterproductive to the extent that it angers and further alienates those who see through the games of smoke and mirrors of our spooks and "leaders".
Not only does very little remain hidden in Kashmir, the rumour mills even churn out narratives about "IB ki chaal" (an IB move) that would be way beyond the very limited intelligence of IB employees.
A vast scam
Given the limited intelligence, strategic thinking and tactical abilities of India’s rulers, it is imperative that we the people start understanding the nature of the iceberg. A useful starting point is to understand that the whole set-up is a scam. Most of those disbursing vast oceans of allocations and "secret funds" in Kashmir focus on how to pocket percentages.
Their purchases don’t buy peace. Rather, those who they buy up develop a vested interest in keeping the conflict going — so that more money may flow. And the message goes out is that those who want incentives should join the "secessionist" bands.
Meanwhile, the entire sordid drama disgusts and enrages young idealists, particularly moralist neo-Puritans.
Blood runs in the gutters of the paths that our spooks pave with gold.
http://www.firstpost.com/india/kash...ly-damages-the-governments-image-3317668.html
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While Israel goes out of its way to eliminate its enemies ( rigging mobile phone with bomb),our
India goes out of its way to reward its enemies ( granting grand son of scum Syed Ali Shah Geelani a plum job in the government).
No one is interested in resolving kashmir issue they just want to maintain the status quo!
Horushmar.
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Looking at the fact that these guys are Sfs, I'm fairly sure that they're not the tin ones; for regular jawans, maybe but again these guys are SFs so.............
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Agree no one wants to really settle the kashmir issue. BUT, to the defense of the govt they don't reaaly have a choice if they want peace, giving these guys jobs in the govt sends out a certain image and I think it works quite well, for the NE anyway.........
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It also send out the message that being anti India pays and pays very well.This will not take as anywhere at-least in Kashmir!
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Yah, and Patka is't as bad as portrayed , according to army site it can even give protection agaist 7.62 cal bullet , somewhere here in this trade or IA news trade members discuses about patka , may be due to negativity created by media about "indian" product and trend of making patka responsible for our soldiers death lead to it's bad image and rejection.
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Hizbul mujahideen Aqib molvi Killed :
Kya mukhade Hai inke.....???
Kurrrrrrbaaaan jauunnn,,,
kurbaaaana jaaaaunnnn!!!
Isi baat Pe Doline Arz karna Chahunga!..
Arz kiya Hai..Zara Gaur FArmaiyega....
"Looti huiye ..kismat se kya yekabhi Nijaat Pa yengey..!!
Looti huiye ..kismat se kya yekabhi Nijaat Pa yengey..??
Jannat E Hoor Kya Hai YE kabhi Dekh Payengey!!
Jannat E Hoor Kya Hai YE kabhi Dekh Payengey??..
Suvar e Sardaar Banaya HAi Inhoney Suvar Gilani ko?!
Suvar e Sardaar Banaya HAi Inhoney Suvar Gilani ko?!
TO KAUN INHE INDIAN ARMY KI GOOLIYON SE BACHAYEGA?!
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This guy is definitely sporting a MKU MUKUT, MKU has been supplying it to IA at a good rate, I watched a vid sometime ago, which showed the whole production process, it is made by pressing aramide sheets together at immense pressure, MKU MD said it was comparable to US ACH and they were working on producing ECH level helmets.
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Buddy it not always about penetration but the sheer trauma of impact taken by the head and the spine when a 7.62 mm ammo mskes contact. The velocity of the projectile is so darn high that it simply dislocates and cracks the bones. I have seen white demo's of the patkas actually making a difference in real life.
Patkas were primarily for khalsa tps but later on became d head gear of choice for everyone.
Patkas are good but not the best,high time change the basic gear( we are but st sn aweful pace).
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Thousands attend militant’s funeral in Tral
(TOI photo)
HIGHLIGHTS
SRINAGAR: Thousands of people turned up for funeral prayers on Monday for Hizbul Mujahideen commander Aqib Moulvi, killed along with his Pakistani associate in a fierce gunfight with security forces at Nazneepora village in Tral area of Pulwama district.
Aqib, and his Pakistani associate, Usama, were killed on Sunday. One member of the police SOG was killed while several other personnel, including a major, were injured in the gun battle. One house was blown up by the security forces.
Meanwhile, thousands of people, including women, attended the funeral procession of Aqib at Hayina, his ancestral village in Tral. Witnesses said the people were shouting anti-India and pro-freedom slogans. Amid slogans about Islam and "Azadi", the slain militant's funeral was held multiple times due to space constraints, reports said.
Aqib was laid to rest in the local martyrs' graveyard.
A complete shutdown was observed in Tral to protest aganst the killing of the militants.
Meanwhile, in Shopian, massive stone-throwing clashes erupted at Pinjoora after security forces launched a cordon-andsearch operation on receiving intelligence about the presence of some militants.
http://m.timesofindia.com/india/thousands-attend-militants-funeral-in-tral/articleshow/57504757.cms
HIGHLIGHTS
- Aqib Moulvi was killed along with his Pakistani associate in a fierce gunfight with security forces in Tral
- Thousands of people turned up for funeral prayers at his ancestral village
- Witnesses said the people were shouting anti-India and pro-freedom slogans.
SRINAGAR: Thousands of people turned up for funeral prayers on Monday for Hizbul Mujahideen commander Aqib Moulvi, killed along with his Pakistani associate in a fierce gunfight with security forces at Nazneepora village in Tral area of Pulwama district.
Aqib, and his Pakistani associate, Usama, were killed on Sunday. One member of the police SOG was killed while several other personnel, including a major, were injured in the gun battle. One house was blown up by the security forces.
Meanwhile, thousands of people, including women, attended the funeral procession of Aqib at Hayina, his ancestral village in Tral. Witnesses said the people were shouting anti-India and pro-freedom slogans. Amid slogans about Islam and "Azadi", the slain militant's funeral was held multiple times due to space constraints, reports said.
Aqib was laid to rest in the local martyrs' graveyard.
A complete shutdown was observed in Tral to protest aganst the killing of the militants.
Meanwhile, in Shopian, massive stone-throwing clashes erupted at Pinjoora after security forces launched a cordon-andsearch operation on receiving intelligence about the presence of some militants.
http://m.timesofindia.com/india/thousands-attend-militants-funeral-in-tral/articleshow/57504757.cms
Correctamundo.
Whichever serving person I've asked has said only good things about the patka. It actually offers superior protection compared to other helmets.
The only thing probably is that it becomes difficult to mount the kind of gizmos that SF people need to mount these days. Most SF helmets do not offer any protection at all, they are there just as fancy mounting points for the gizmos. It's based on the assumption that the SF personnel will NOT take fire given the fact that they pick the time and place of attack and mostly catch the enemy by surprise, unlike regular troops who face extended hours of protracted firefights.
Patka is best for regular soldiers. The fancy helmets are best for SF.
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I don't understand why do we just hand over militant's body to them. Why?Thousands attend militant’s funeral in Tral
(TOI photo)
HIGHLIGHTS
- Aqib Moulvi was killed along with his Pakistani associate in a fierce gunfight with security forces in Tral
- Thousands of people turned up for funeral prayers at his ancestral village
- Witnesses said the people were shouting anti-India and pro-freedom slogans.
SRINAGAR: Thousands of people turned up for funeral prayers on Monday for Hizbul Mujahideen commander Aqib Moulvi, killed along with his Pakistani associate in a fierce gunfight with security forces at Nazneepora village in Tral area of Pulwama district.
Aqib, and his Pakistani associate, Usama, were killed on Sunday. One member of the police SOG was killed while several other personnel, including a major, were injured in the gun battle. One house was blown up by the security forces.
Meanwhile, thousands of people, including women, attended the funeral procession of Aqib at Hayina, his ancestral village in Tral. Witnesses said the people were shouting anti-India and pro-freedom slogans. Amid slogans about Islam and "Azadi", the slain militant's funeral was held multiple times due to space constraints, reports said.
Aqib was laid to rest in the local martyrs' graveyard.
A complete shutdown was observed in Tral to protest aganst the killing of the militants.
Meanwhile, in Shopian, massive stone-throwing clashes erupted at Pinjoora after security forces launched a cordon-andsearch operation on receiving intelligence about the presence of some militants.
http://m.timesofindia.com/india/thousands-attend-militants-funeral-in-tral/articleshow/57504757.cms
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These are presstitudes, Spreading dangerous fire regardless of the consequences and specifically for personal benefits ..
They forget to mention the crowd who were for slain policeman but terrorist for sure, Further they forget what kind of crowd was their and who were the ring leaders controlling their voice which shouts anti-Indian slogan..
They forget to mention the crowd who were for slain policeman but terrorist for sure, Further they forget what kind of crowd was their and who were the ring leaders controlling their voice which shouts anti-Indian slogan..
Thousands attend militant’s funeral in Tral
(TOI photo)
HIGHLIGHTS
- Aqib Moulvi was killed along with his Pakistani associate in a fierce gunfight with security forces in Tral
- Thousands of people turned up for funeral prayers at his ancestral village
- Witnesses said the people were shouting anti-India and pro-freedom slogans.
SRINAGAR: Thousands of people turned up for funeral prayers on Monday for Hizbul Mujahideen commander Aqib Moulvi, killed along with his Pakistani associate in a fierce gunfight with security forces at Nazneepora village in Tral area of Pulwama district.
Aqib, and his Pakistani associate, Usama, were killed on Sunday. One member of the police SOG was killed while several other personnel, including a major, were injured in the gun battle. One house was blown up by the security forces.
Meanwhile, thousands of people, including women, attended the funeral procession of Aqib at Hayina, his ancestral village in Tral. Witnesses said the people were shouting anti-India and pro-freedom slogans. Amid slogans about Islam and "Azadi", the slain militant's funeral was held multiple times due to space constraints, reports said.
Aqib was laid to rest in the local martyrs' graveyard.
A complete shutdown was observed in Tral to protest aganst the killing of the militants.
Meanwhile, in Shopian, massive stone-throwing clashes erupted at Pinjoora after security forces launched a cordon-andsearch operation on receiving intelligence about the presence of some militants.
http://m.timesofindia.com/india/thousands-attend-militants-funeral-in-tral/articleshow/57504757.cms
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