Indian Army: News and Discussion

[AUSTERLITZ]

So pinakas won't be in artillery now?

Pinaka and grad will remain with arty,as they cater to immediate tactical battlespace.Only long range MLRS - smerch and future 150 km pinaka will be going to rocket forces.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Pinaka and grad will remain with arty,as they cater to immediate tactical battlespace.Only long range MLRS - smerch and future 150 km pinaka will be going to rocket forces.

Thank you this was what I was looking for

 

[WolfPack86]

T-90 tank production to be hit by Ukraine-Russia war
Nagpur: The Russia-Ukraine war is now expected to impact production
T-90 tanks by the ordnance factories. Earlier, it was hoped ..
that the conflict may not last long and things would continue
smoothly. As the war prolongs, sources say that production
process may be affected in the coming days if the situation
does not normalize.

Sources said some of the sub-assemblies are still imported
from Russia. As the war continues their supply is expected
be hit, perhaps even affecting the delivery schedule.
Over the years as much as 95% of the T-90 production
has been indigenized. However, the remaining 5% of
5% of spares for which dependency is on Russia remain crucial
The T-90 tanks are based on Russian technology.

There are certain crucial sub-assemblies for which the factory
depend, as drawings have not been shared yet.
These include certain electro-mechanical components, said a source.

As against this almost 98% indigenization has been achieved
for the T-72 tanks, which are also based on Russian know-how.

The tanks are made at the Armoured Vehicles Nigam Limited
Limited (AVNL), at Avadi in Tamil Nadu.
The PSU has been carved out of earlier ordnance factories like
the Heavy Vehicles Factory at Chennai, Ordnance Factory Project
Medak, Vehicle Factory at Jabalpur, and the Engine factory at chennai.

The AVNL has also taken proactive steps to tackle the situation
although it may take some months to show results.

Union sources said even the employees’ associations have been
stressing on the indigenization of production.
This takes care of a major component.

Meanwhile, in an independent development, the 155x52 mm caliber

advanced towed artillery gun systems (ATAGs), made by the p
rivate sector companies — Bharat Forge and Tatas — are expected
to go through a round of trials in the coming weeks.

These would be reliability firing, as it happened for the Dhanush
guns made by Advance Weapons and Equipment Limited (AWEL)
also a PSU formed out of the ordnance factories.

T-90 tank production to be hit by Ukraine-Russia war | Nagpur News - Times of India

Nagpur: The Russia-Ukraine war is now expected to impact production of T-90 tanks by the ordnance factories.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

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[Hari Sud]

Let us discuss the Indian made ammunition issue here again:

Time and again exploding barrel or barrel bulge have happened in last three years. We have concentrated a lot on buying guns and rifles but never paid attention to the quality of ammunition fed into it. Only a few days an artillery gun barrel exploded with the death of a JCO and injury to another person. Before that, if I remember correctly there were exploding barrels of M777 when these guns newly acquired. In last one year a number of barrel bulge incidents have been noticed in the recently acquired American rifles.

Each of the cases the OFB try hard to pin the blame on the gun supplied or barrel maintenance etc. but never allowed the quality issues of the Indian made ammunition to be brought forward. In fact that is the issue! The ammunition manufacturer is a government owned entity where ‘Unions’ dictate the terms as what can be done to improve or technology changes essential to best the quality. The government is kept extremely busy in buying new fighters, ships and missiles and there is not enough focus on how to make quality ammunitions to feed the guns. In the meantime lives are being lost due to faulty issues.

If the quality issue cannot be fixed without privatization and then let it happen. Shift the making of Ammunition also to the private sector. Let the government factories compete with them. If there is a political fallout then let be. But improve the quality of the ammunition. It is as important.

 

[STORE]

 

[vidhwanshak]

which regiment of rr?

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Seriously? Her out of all of the people

 

[WolfPack86]

Amethi unit all set to make AK-203 rifles
Russia to send equipment shortly

The manufacture of the AK-203 assault rifles by the Indo-Russian joint venture at Amethi, Uttar Pradesh is set to begin by year-end and the manufacturing equipment required for it will be dispatched from Russia shortly, according to a senior official of Kalashnikov, the Russian company which manufactures the rifles. The production was originally scheduled to begin early this year.

“Training of Indian workers of the factory will begin shortly and the manufacturing process will reach 100% indigenisation in three years,” the official who did not wish to be identified said. He stated that earlier issues with regard to the ammunition for the rifles have been resolved.

Confirming this, Dmitry Shugaev, Director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) of Russia, said on the sidelines of the Army-2022 expo, “Work is under way to organise the production of the AK-203 assault rifles in India, the serial production of which is expected to begin in late 2022-early 2023.”

Delayed due to war
As reported by The Hindu earlier, as part of pre-production activities, retrials were scheduled to be done with ammunition from the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) in Russia in the first half of February, but got delayed by few months due to the war in Ukraine. On this, officials said this issue had now been resolved and a local manufacturer of ammunition had been identified in India.

As per the contract, over 6.1 lakh AK-203 assault rifles costing over ₹5,000 crore will be manufactured by a Joint Venture, Indo-Russian Rifles Private Ltd (IRRPL), at Korwa, Amethi in Uttar Pradesh. IRRPL was set up jointly between erstwhile OFB [now Advanced Weapons and Equipment India Limited (AWEIL) and Munitions India Limited (MIL)] of India and Rosoboronexport (RoE) and concern Kalashnikov of Russia.

A modern production line has been established and a small arms range has been set up where both factory and acceptance tests of assault rifles will be carried out.

The full-scale production of the rifles is expected to be reached within 2-3 years, Director-General of Rosoboronexport Alexander Mikheev had stated earlier. As per contractual terms, the first 70,000 AK-203 rifles will be produced in India with a phased increase in the extent of localisation from 5% to 70%. The remaining rifles will be produced with 100% localisation.

Amethi unit all set to make AK-203 rifles

Russia to send equipment shortly

www.thehindu.com

 

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[mist_consecutive]

This was faster than expected. Explains the rigorous exercises ongoing for the last few days in different commands.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

This was faster than expected. Explains the rigorous exercises ongoing for the last few days in different commands.

Yea assuming its coming from him I think info is correct and it really is fast wish our procurement system will become this fast too

 

[mist_consecutive]

Yea assuming its coming from him I think info is correct and it really is fast wish our procurement system will become this fast too

Source is credible

India rolls out integrated battle group concept with mountain corps

The Indian Army has rolled out the integrated battle group (IBG) concept along the northeastern border with China in North Sikkim.

www.janes.com

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Source is credible

India rolls out integrated battle group concept with mountain corps

The Indian Army has rolled out the integrated battle group (IBG) concept along the northeastern border with China in North Sikkim.

www.janes.com

Ok then that's probably a record for army to integrate something so fast

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[jai jaganath]

Seems ground is ready for theaterization

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Seems ground is ready for theaterization

Yep with new cds appointment and ibg implemented things are looking positive lets hope for best

 

[Blademaster]

This was faster than expected. Explains the rigorous exercises ongoing for the last few days in different commands.

It is good as long as they have sufficient personnel manning the HQs to handle all the coordination of IBGs. That was the problem with the beginning of the Russian-Ukraine war with respect to the Russian forces. All those battalion groups were too much and overwhelmed the central HQs with too many tasking requests, backup support requests, fire support requests, etc.

There's a reason why we have divisions. A division would house the HQ infrastructure necessary to coordinate and direct 3-4 brigades and in turn the brigade HQ would coordinate and direct 3-4 battalions. Removing the brigade HQs would result in too many battalions for the divisional HQs to coordinate and direct.

 

[bhramos]