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Okabe Rintarou

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Is there any rank called 2-ic in Indian army or RR .if there is what role does that rank play .thanks in advance
Its not a rank, its an appointment. 2-IC means 2nd-in Command. He is the deputy of the Commanding Officer of a Battalion/Regiment. Officers of the rank of Lt.Colonel are appointed to this post.
 

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Today I attended an inaugration event of 60th Assault Engineers(Sapt Shakti Command). Cycling Marathon 500 Kms.

These types of tshirt have become common with ORs and new recruits.
I asked them for a photo but they refused so I didn't insist.

But again there 2 diff camos for this:) as well

These two:
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India Army seeks domestic vendors for 3rd-generation anti-tank missile purchase
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: India’s infantry soldiers will soon get to deploy a third generation Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM) designed and developed by the domestic industry, as the army seeks to identify vendors to manufacture 2,330 missiles and 101 launchers, with six simulators for training purposes.

The Indian Army has on Feb. 7 issued a Expression of Interest (EOI) and sought responses from Indian vendors by Mar. 23 to indigenously design and develop the third-generation ATGM.

Justifying the search, the army has stated that the terrain along the borders lends itself to conduct of large scale mechanised operations and the belligerence of India’s adversaries on the borders necessitate that the capability of the infantry men are increased with the modern weapon.

At present, the infantry deploys a variety of MILAN 2T ATGMS of European-origin and Russian-orign KONKURS-M ATGMs, both of which are second generation systems and have been in service for more than three decades.

“These systems are deficient in advanced technologies, primarily, the guidance parameters and capability to fight both during day and night,” the EOI document seen by Defence.Capital said. The proposed third generation ATGM will replace the MILAN and KONKURs in service with the Indian Army’s Parachute, Parachute (Special Forces) and Infantry battalions.

Only recently, India had purchased the Israeli Spike LR 4th Generation Missile from Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Limited and carried out tests at Mhow, resulting in a wordy duel between the Israeli company and the Defence Research and Development Organisation over a media statement on the test.

Globally, the armed forces have now equipped the infantry with third generation ATGM systems. In comparison with the Indian holdings, the third generation systems have better accuracy, enhanced lethality, a higher kill probability, day and night operation capability and ensure better survivability for the operating crew.

The objective of the Expression of Interest is to seek responses from eligible Indian vendors for development of prototype and future procurement of these third generation ATGM systems.

Obviously, the Indian Army aims to select as many Development Agencies as possible under the ‘Make-II‘ process of acquisition under the Defence Procurement Procedure of 2016, as updated upto Nov. 1, 2019. The procurement category would be ‘Buy Indigenously Designed, Developed and Manufactured‘ with 60 per cent indigenous content in the end product.

At the prototype development stage, to be delivered within two years, the Development Agency will supply one launcher, six missiles including two with warheads and one simulator system. At the procurement stage, the need will be 101 launchers, 2330 missiles with warhead and six simulator systems. If the development agency is to collaborate with a foreign vendor, then it must be stated clearly in the responses to the EOI.

“The weapon system is required for anti-tank and anti-structure engagements in conventional operations. A third generation ATGM system will enhance the potential of infantry to counter mechanised threat in select sectors and also employment in anti-structure roles,” the EOI document said.

“Induction of the third generation ATGM capability will augment anti-tank deterrence against armour threat on defensive positions and strengthen the anti-tank potential of infantry battalion on mechanised offensive operations.”

An appropriate engineering support package will be required for repair and maintenance of the equipment including spares, special test equipment, special maintenance tool, training, and technical literature to include user hand book, preservation instructions, complete equipment schedule, repair manual and technical manuals.

These will be provided with the equipment during the procurement phase. Details will be amplified in the commercial Request for Proposals to be issued to selected Development Agencies.

The so developed ATGMs must be suitable for employment in various terrains both day and night, with an effective 2.5-km range and having a hit probability not less than 90 per cent. Direct attack must be minimum achievable, but not more than 200 metres, while top attack is minimum achievable, but nor more than 800 metres. The missile must be compatible with both HEAT and tandem warheads, have an active/passive guidance system with lock-on before launch.

The Indian Army expects an accuracy and effectiveness against intended targets of altitudes up to 3,000 metre, with fire-and-forget, direct attack and top attack capability. The weapon system must be capable of launch from a vehicle and a ground-based platform and should include launcher systems with tripod, four missiles and day and night sighting systems to be equitably distributed among three crew members.

The expected minimum penetration to be achieved would be 600mm of Rolled Homogeneous Armour beyond Explosive Reactive Armour. The system should be capable of firing mode from man-pack condition in less than five minutes and be capable of firing a second missile within two minutes of launch of the first missile. The missile must have soft launch capability with smokeless propellant.

The missile should weigh not more than 15 kg and the launcher should weigh not more than 15 kg along with CLU battery, tripod and sighting systems.
 

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India Army seeks domestic vendors for 3rd-generation anti-tank missile purchase
New Delhi
: India’s infantry soldiers will soon get to deploy a third generation Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM) designed and developed by the domestic industry, as the army seeks to identify vendors to manufacture 2,330 missiles and 101 launchers, with six simulators for training purposes.

The Indian Army has on Feb. 7 issued a Expression of Interest (EOI) and sought responses from Indian vendors by Mar. 23 to indigenously design and develop the third-generation ATGM.

Justifying the search, the army has stated that the terrain along the borders lends itself to conduct of large scale mechanised operations and the belligerence of India’s adversaries on the borders necessitate that the capability of the infantry men are increased with the modern weapon.

At present, the infantry deploys a variety of MILAN 2T ATGMS of European-origin and Russian-orign KONKURS-M ATGMs, both of which are second generation systems and have been in service for more than three decades.

“These systems are deficient in advanced technologies, primarily, the guidance parameters and capability to fight both during day and night,” the EOI document seen by Defence.Capital said. The proposed third generation ATGM will replace the MILAN and KONKURs in service with the Indian Army’s Parachute, Parachute (Special Forces) and Infantry battalions.

Only recently, India had purchased the Israeli Spike LR 4th Generation Missile from Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Limited and carried out tests at Mhow, resulting in a wordy duel between the Israeli company and the Defence Research and Development Organisation over a media statement on the test.

Globally, the armed forces have now equipped the infantry with third generation ATGM systems. In comparison with the Indian holdings, the third generation systems have better accuracy, enhanced lethality, a higher kill probability, day and night operation capability and ensure better survivability for the operating crew.

The objective of the Expression of Interest is to seek responses from eligible Indian vendors for development of prototype and future procurement of these third generation ATGM systems.

Obviously, the Indian Army aims to select as many Development Agencies as possible under the ‘Make-II‘ process of acquisition under the Defence Procurement Procedure of 2016, as updated upto Nov. 1, 2019. The procurement category would be ‘Buy Indigenously Designed, Developed and Manufactured‘ with 60 per cent indigenous content in the end product.

At the prototype development stage, to be delivered within two years, the Development Agency will supply one launcher, six missiles including two with warheads and one simulator system. At the procurement stage, the need will be 101 launchers, 2330 missiles with warhead and six simulator systems. If the development agency is to collaborate with a foreign vendor, then it must be stated clearly in the responses to the EOI.

“The weapon system is required for anti-tank and anti-structure engagements in conventional operations. A third generation ATGM system will enhance the potential of infantry to counter mechanised threat in select sectors and also employment in anti-structure roles,” the EOI document said.

“Induction of the third generation ATGM capability will augment anti-tank deterrence against armour threat on defensive positions and strengthen the anti-tank potential of infantry battalion on mechanised offensive operations.”

An appropriate engineering support package will be required for repair and maintenance of the equipment including spares, special test equipment, special maintenance tool, training, and technical literature to include user hand book, preservation instructions, complete equipment schedule, repair manual and technical manuals.

These will be provided with the equipment during the procurement phase. Details will be amplified in the commercial Request for Proposals to be issued to selected Development Agencies.

The so developed ATGMs must be suitable for employment in various terrains both day and night, with an effective 2.5-km range and having a hit probability not less than 90 per cent. Direct attack must be minimum achievable, but not more than 200 metres, while top attack is minimum achievable, but nor more than 800 metres. The missile must be compatible with both HEAT and tandem warheads, have an active/passive guidance system with lock-on before launch.

The Indian Army expects an accuracy and effectiveness against intended targets of altitudes up to 3,000 metre, with fire-and-forget, direct attack and top attack capability. The weapon system must be capable of launch from a vehicle and a ground-based platform and should include launcher systems with tripod, four missiles and day and night sighting systems to be equitably distributed among three crew members.

The expected minimum penetration to be achieved would be 600mm of Rolled Homogeneous Armour beyond Explosive Reactive Armour. The system should be capable of firing mode from man-pack condition in less than five minutes and be capable of firing a second missile within two minutes of launch of the first missile. The missile must have soft launch capability with smokeless propellant.

The missile should weigh not more than 15 kg and the launcher should weigh not more than 15 kg along with CLU battery, tripod and sighting systems.
Why IA not considering 5th gen atgm in limited nos ?
What about MPATGM ?
 

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Why IA not considering 5th gen atgm in limited nos ?
What about MPATGM ?
DRDO MPATGM is a 3rd gen fire and forget ATGM similar to the FGM-148 Javelin.
There is only one 5th generation MPATGM available right now known as Akeron MP, but its likely it does not offer much benefits compared to the 3rd gen ATGM.
One of the marketed buzzwords for 5th gen ATGM is AI, Tonbo Imaging is developing something similar with BDL.
 

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DRDO MPATGM is a 3rd gen fire and forget ATGM similar to the FGM-148 Javelin.
There is only one 5th generation MPATGM available right now known as Akeron MP, but its likely it does not offer much benefits compared to the 3rd gen ATGM.
One of the marketed buzzwords for 5th gen ATGM is AI, Tonbo Imaging is developing something similar with BDL.
isn't the drdo atgm ready,why are they not ordering them?
 

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Read about IBGs


It is equivalent to Chinese Combined Arms Brigade, or US Army Brigade Combat Team.
Thank you so it means we will finally get theaterization down the road?
 

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Indian Army invites defence industry to offer critical equipment for emergency procurement
New Delhi:
The Indian Army has in Sunday (18 September) invited the Indian defence industry to offer critical defence equipment for emergency procurement. Proposals have been fielded for guns, missiles, drones, counter drone, loiter munition, communication and optical systems, specialist vehicles, engineering equipment and alternate energy resources.

“In keeping with its commitment to fight the future wars with Indigenous Solutions, #IndianArmy invites Indian Defence Industry to offer critical defence equipment for Emergency Procurement,” the Indian Army said in a post on Twitter.


The Indian Army further said that the process will be based on compressed timelines, wherein the procurement window will be open to Indian Industry for six months and the industry would be expected to deliver equipment within one year of signing the contract.

"Procurement cases will be based on Open Tender Enquiry," it added.


For the unversed, in June this year, the Defence Acquisition Council cleared capital acquisition proposals of the Armed Forces amounting to Rs 76,390 crore to 'Buy (Indian)', 'Buy & Make (Indian)' and 'Buy (Indian-IDDM)' categories.







Indian Army issues tenders for buying guns, missiles, drones under emergency powers
New Delhi [India], September 18 (ANI): With an aim to gear up for the future and fight future wars with indigenous weapons, the Indian Army has issued multiple tenders to buy guns, missiles, drones and many other systems from domestic manufacturers for meeting critical requirements under emergency procurement procedures.

“We have invited the Indian defence industry to offer critical defence equipment for emergency procurement. Proposals are being fielded for guns, missiles, drones, counter-drone, loiter munition, communication and optical systems, specialist Vehicles, engineering equipment and alternate energy resources,” the Indian Army said today.

The process will be based on compressed timelines, wherein the procurement window will be open to Indian Industry for six months and the industry would be expected to deliver equipment within one year of signing the contract. Procurement cases will be based on Open Tender Enquiry, the force said.

Under emergency procurement powers, the armed forces can buy equipment worth Rs 300 crores under capital procurement cases and Rs 500 crores under revenue procurement cases.

The clearance for making these procurements was accorded to the three services in the last defence acquisition council held by the Narendra Modi government.

The forces have been granted these powers for a six months window where they can buy any weapon system of their choice produced under the Make in India route.

However, earlier the services had the freedom to do deals with foreign vendors also directly and multiple contracts were signed post-May 2020 in which Heron drones, Spike anti-tank guided missiles and many other critical requirements of the forces were fulfilled.
 

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We use t 90 , it was not expected from you sir.
We use t 90
The indian t 90
India competed in every tank biathlon with T-72 except for in 2017 where we used T-90 Bhisma, however in that contest, both of our tanks (main and reserve) broke down, which resulted in India getting disqualified before the semifinals. We had a good start with T-90s, however.


it was not expected from you sir.
And kindly don't patronize me.
 

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India competed in every tank biathlon with T-72 except for in 2017 where we used T-90 Bhisma, however in that contest, both of our tanks (main and reserve) broke down, which resulted in India getting disqualified before the semifinals. We had a good start with T-90s, however.




And kindly don't patronize me.
Who am I to patronize you, honestly it was a shock to know that we used t 72 always except once.
 

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