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Army and IAF face off over new war plan: India Today - Latest Breaking News from India, World, Business, Cricket, Sports, Bollywood.

The army and air force are battling it out over how to beat Pakistan in a flash war if and when that happens.

The Indian Air Force is not convinced about its role in the army's "cold start doctrine" for a future Indo-Pak war.

The strategy envisages the air force providing "close air support", which calls for aerial bombing of ground targets to augment the fire power of the advancing troops.

The growing tension between the two services is evident in a statement of air vice-marshal (retd) Kapil Kak, deputy director of the air force's own Centre for Air Power Studies.

"There is no question of the air force fitting itself into a doctrine propounded by the army. That is a concept dead at inception," Kak said.

A senior army officer disputes the notion of a conceptual difference between the two services. "The air force is supposed to launch an offensive under the doctrine by hitting targets deep inside enemy territory," he said. But he admitted the air force was hesitant about 'close air support'. 'Cold Start' is a post-nuclearised doctrine that envisages a "limited war" in which the army intends to inflict substantial damage on Pakistan's armed forces without letting it cross the threshold where it could think of pressing the nuclear button.

The doctrine intends to accomplish the task before the international community led by the US and China could intercede to end hostilities. Kak said, "The air force has the primary task of achieving 'air dominance' by which Pakistan's air force is put out of action allowing the army to act at will."

But he sees little necessity for the air force to divert frontline fighter aircraft for augmenting the army's fire power, a task that, in his opinion, can be achieved by the army's own attack helicopters and multiple rocket launchers that now have a 100-km range.

But he agrees the two services should work according to a joint plan. It means the air force would launch 'battlefield air strikes' to neutralise threats on the ground based on an existing plan. But that would be different from an army commander calling for air support on the basis of a developing war scenario.

That is not the only problem facing the doctrine. In the past few weeks, many have expressed doubts about the army's ability to launch operations on the basis of the new doctrine.

There are also apprehensions about the army's incomplete deployment of forces, lack of mobility and unattended infrastructure development.

But senior officers say the army has identified the units, which would constitute the eight division-strong independent battle groups out of its three strike corps. These battle groups would comprise mechanised infantry, artillery and armour.

"The forces have exercised as constituted battle groups at least six times since 2004. Each of the identified unit knows where they will be deployed,"
a senior General said.

According to him, the time for deployment has been cut down to "days". "No longer will the movement of troops require three months like it did when Operation Parakram was launched after the attack on Parliament in 2001," he said.

The army also debunks the idea that the troops lack mobility. Some armed forces observers have said only 35 per cent of the army is mobile inside the country.

They have, thus, concluded that even less numbers would be mobile inside the enemy territory.

The army officials, however, pooh pooh the criticism claiming 100 per cent of the Indian troops are mobile.
 

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The time changed AIR FORCE Role in a future battle is essentiel speed, accurate, less time, heavy firing, getting into enemy territories all this task is capapble only by airforce. no longer we can waste time in mobiliti and infrastructure. developement of technologie makes each minute precious to save our nation there should not be time given to react or act to our adversaire. Without dought Airforce is in fronline to strike targets deep inside enemy territory. in the mean time army can defend borders by opening a second front of battle to destablish enemy. " Best way of defening is attacking".

we should construct our doctrine to face chinise attack if we can do that then automaticaly it will be suit able for pakistan.

Army just now started modernistation it need more more modernistation for less causalities in our side.
 

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National Security Guard hub, commando unit in every state: Chidambaram

New Delhi: The government today said it would strive to establish a National Security Guard (NSG) hub or an equivalent commando force in every state in due course to strengthen the national security apparatus.Home minister P Chidambaram told the Lok Sabha during question hour that the government was trying to have these units soon, though it was a long-term plan in view of the constraints of manpower and training.

The government has got four regional NSG hubs in Hyderabad, Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata, which were operationalised before July 1 this year against the backdrop of the Mumbai terror strike on November 26 last year.

Chidambaram said strengthening of the national security apparatus, including commando units, was an ongoing process, with regular reviews based on internal security situation.

The government, he said, had already approved setting up of regional centres of NSG at Kolkata and Hyderabad, apart from raising 10 Commando Battalions for Resolute Action (CoBRA) to be raised during the three-year period from 2008-'09.

The Centre would also provide assistance for raising commandos in states, apart from upgrading existing four training centres for Central Paramilitary Forces at Silchar (Assam), Hazaribagh (Jharkhand), Sapri (Himachal Pradesh) and Gawaldham (Uttarkhand), which would train the commando components of India Reserve Battalions.

Chidambaram said the Centre had already approved raising of Commando Companies by the states within the existing IRBs and State Armed Police.

The government has sanctioned 88 commando companies to the states, who have been sanctioned IRBs from 2007-'08 onwards, and an assistance of Rs264 crore has been provided at Rs3 crore per company for training and equipment of these companies, each having around 100 personnel.
Other State governments were also requested to raise two commando companies and seek assistance from the Centre for additional equipment and training, he said.

To queries from Anurag Thakur and Virender Kashyap (both BJP), Chidambaram said the Centre had already approved raising of two commando companies through the existing IRBs for Himachal Pradesh with Rs3 crore each for training and equipment.

"Raising of NSG hubs and commando units is not an easy matter. It is a complex exercise," he said.


National Security Guard hub, commando unit in every state: Chidambaram - dnaindia.com
 

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Army short of 1.86 lakh bulletproof jackets

NEW DELHI: Life in India comes cheap. Despite a lapse of several years, a major chunk of Army soldiers are yet to get something as basic as proper Noting that the authorised holding of bullet-proof jackets for the Army was 3,53,765, the parliamentary standing committee on defence on Wednesday expressed anguish that MoD was yet to make up the shortfall of as many as 1,86,138 of them.

"This is risking the life of as many soldiers. The committee desires that such important life-saving items should be purchased through fast-track procedures. Quality control should be strictly observed so that precious lives of trained soldiers may not be lost,'' it said.

The latest GSQRs (general staff qualitative requirements) for the jackets show their weight ranges from 10.5 kg to 11.5 kg. "This seems to be very heavy as the soldier has to carry this weight in addition to regular items, which will affect his agility and mobility in war as well as counter-insurgency operations,'' it said. Consequently, the committee asked the government to procure light-weight jackets from the domestic or the international market.

Army short of 1.86 lakh bulletproof jackets - India - The Times of India
 

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It means that the Indian Army should have a Tactical Air Wing?

If that is mentioned, the Air Force will come around.
 

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30,000 troops withdrawn from Kashmir: Antony - India - The Times of India
30,000 troops withdrawn from Kashmir: Antony
TNN 18 December 2009, 12:10pm IST

NEW DELHI: Defence minister A K Antony on Friday announced that the Centre has withdrawn around 30,000 troops from Jammu and Kashmir.

A K Antony said two Army divisions comprising around 30,000 troops have been moved out of Kashmir in the wake of improvement in the security situation there.

Addressing reporters Antony said, "Two Army divisions comprising around 30,000 troops have been moved out of Kashmir due to improvement in the situation there."

"Whenever we feel the situation has improved or is improving we will further reduce the visibility and presence of the Army in the state... it is because of the presence of the army that we have been able to counter terrorism in the state," Antony added.

The Army has begun withdrawing troops from the Rajouri and Poonch districts of Jammu and Kashmir in a move seen as a confidence building measure to get Kashmiri separatists, especially the hardliners, on board for talks.

The twin districts of Rajouri and Poonch were brought under the Disturbed Area Act along with the Kashmir Valley in July 1990 and the security forces were given special powers under Armed Forces Special Powers Act around the same time.

The two districts have a 200 km Line of Control with Pakistan-administered Kashmir.

Antony made the announcement just days after home minister P Chidambaram informed the Parliament, that troop reduction in Jammu and Kashmir was on the cards considering improvement in the overall security situation in the northern state.

Reacting to the Chidambaram's statement, former state chief minister and union minister for new and renewable sources of energy Farooq Abdullah had said that the home minister had finally given good news to the people of Jammu and Kashmir.

"Reduction in the number of troops deployed in the state would definitely ease the tensions here and herald the beginning of peace and development in the state," Abdullah had said.
 

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Present status of Indian Armed Force

Apart from three wings. there is lot of paramilitary and commando troops. there is certainly a confusin while there is a probleme to know who 's reponsibility. Certainly there is a problem of coodination, management and quality of service.

A big nation like india don't have a national police service.
due to lot of state police services there is lot od dismanagement of criminal rate and corruption. ti's very difficult to maintaine law and order through out the year all over the nation.

My opinion all state police service should come under one label and one control Home minister of india. Doing this first we can reduce criminal rate, corruption and reduse abuse of police power by state politicens.

RAPID force of CRPF should be maintained as it is and modernised and used in counter action to maintain law nd order when there is a great problem in any part of nation insted of calling border force.

Border force should be modernised and should be given reponsibily of borders regularly througout the year and clock.

it will be easy to manage the security problems of our country.
 

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Defence Offset Policy to open Rs 40,000cr opportunity in five years
KOLKATA: The ministry of defence on Saturday called on the private sector to take advantage of its Offset Policy which will throw up a Rs 40,000 crore opportunity in the next five years to manufaturers and service providers. "Our anticipation is that the Offset opportunity will grow to Rs 40,000 crore (about $10 bn) in the next five years. This offers a tremendous opportunity (for the private sector)," minister of state for defence M M Pallam Raju told a press conference in Kolkata. The Defence Offset Policy stipulates that foreign contractors catering to the Armed Forces source systems and components from local vendors for at least 30% of the value of orders of more than Rs 300 crore. For a multi-role combat aircraft, the Offset value is 50%, Raju said.

Most global aerospace industries have started looking towards India as a hub for development of technology, he said, adding the primary driver for this outsourcing of Aerospace Engineering and Manufacturing was the Offset Policy.
He said the value of the country's Offshore Aerospace Engineering stood at around $700 to 800 million, he said, adding this will grow to $3 bn by 2020. The value would rise to 12 bn if manufacturing was included.

Defence Offset Policy to open Rs 40,000cr opportunity in five years - India - The Times of India
 

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This is interesting and utter *****ic reason:

Green norms stalling border roads: Army - India - The Times of India

"Huge delays in getting environmental clearances are jeopardising national security. Construction of strategically important roads should be exempted from all this," said a senior officer.

While environmental activists are opposed to this proposal because of fragile ecosystems in the regions concerned, the Army contends that clearances under the Forest (Conservation) Act of 1980 and Wildife (Protection) Act of 1972 in some cases have been pending for a good four years or so.
 

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The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Nation | Biryani

Bangalore, Dec. 21 (PTI): Army personnel deployed on icy heights such as Siachen and Kargil can now look forward to savouring mutton and chicken biryani or non-veg sandwiches with none of the nutrients or taste lost during transit, thanks to a food laboratory.

The Mysore-based Defence Food Research Laboratory has prepared and packaged the dishes that have a shelf life of one year.

The products had been developed with the help of non-thermal technology, which helps retain nutrients and taste.
 

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UK-made Remotely Operated Vehicles inducted in Army

Jammu: The Army has inducted United Kingdom (UK)-made Remotely Operated Vehicles (ROVs) for its use against the Improvised Explosive Device (IEDs) in Jammu and Kashmir. "For the defusing of IEDs planted by the militants and avoid causalities in blasts, latest state-of-the-art technology of UK-made ROVs have been inducted in the operations here," an Army official said here.

The ROVs, remotely-controlled tracked vehicle designed to conduct investigation and deal with the IEDs, have recently been delivered to 115 engineers in the state along with several other Engineering units, he said. The new ROVs have chains like a tank or a JCB and are more effective as compared to the old ones, which had only wheels. The radio control ROV can be controlled up to a distance of one km, cable drum up to 150 meters and fibre optic cable up to 200 meters, he said.

There is full-fledged command station, which acts as a control centre for remote operating and monitoring ROV, the official said, adding the station has several latest tools to deal with IEDs, including Manipulator shotgun, Disrupt laser, Mechanical Grab, Car towing equipment and X-ray system

http://www.zeenews.com/news589275.html
 

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Draft Arms and Ammunitions Manufacturing Policy - MHA requests inputs

22 Dec 2009 8ak: Deputy Secretary Shri S.K. Malhotra on behalf of the Internal Security II Division of the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) has invited public comments on the Draft Arms and Ammunitions Manufacturing Policy.
In September 2009, the government had issued a Request for Information (RFI) for 9mm guns. Due to the strict licensing procedures, it was felt that even though India had the ability to manufacture these and more weapons indigenously, the government would buy from an overseas manufacturer. This new policy has been drafted to help the indigenisation.
The policy states that the arms & ammunition can only be sold to the paramilitary forces, defence forces and the state governments. They cannot be sold to the general public and strict monitoring will be required to ensure that these weapons are not diverted. Only large companies able to invest over 50 crores are eligible to apply for a license from the Department of Industrial Policy and Promotion (DIPP). FDI of up to 26% would be permitted and exports would be allowed.
Going over the history of arms manufacturing in India the draft policy also mentioned that currently 95 firms are licensed by the Ministry of Home Affairs for the manufacture of guns (single barrel/double barrel) and 25 firms for the manufacture if cartridges (either blank cartridges or live cartridges or both) upto the quota permitted in their licences.


8ak - Indian Defence News: Draft Arms and Ammunitions Manufacturing Policy - MHA requests inputs
 

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Now, Armymen at icy heights to get biryani

BANGALORE: Army personnel deployed in icy heights like Siachen and Kargil now can look forward to munch mutton and chicken biryanis or
non-vegetarian sandwiches with all nutrients and taste attached, thanks to the efforts of a leading food laboratory.

In its bid to cater to growing demand for non-vegetarian food among defence personnel deployed in high-altitude places, Mysore-based Defence Food Research Laboratory (DFRL) has developed specially prepared and packaged these delights that have a shelf life of one year.

These products had been developed based on non-thermal technology, which helps retain nutrients and taste of Indian food for a long time, DFRL Director Amarinder Singh Bawa said.

"We have developed these products after the Indian Army evinced interest in non-vegetarian fare. They contain non vegetarian food which stays fresh for a long time and gives the taste of homemade eatables to soldiers in areas where temperatures can be freezing", he said.

Bawa said DFRL had also developed appetiser foods and beverages specially for the Armed Forces, as the personnel tend to lose their appetite when they are deployed at high altitude zones like Siachen and Kargil in the Himalayas.

"We have many products and one of them is appetiser for the Armed Forces. In high altitudes, where oxygen level is less, the armymen tend to lose their appetite as they suffer from acidity and feel their stomach is always full. So when the food intake goes down, the armymen start losing weight and face health problems," he said. "These foods are based on some spices and fruits like lemon, ginger, ash gourd, cumin and some are even curd-based. It has been tested by the army and accepted. Large-scale production would commence soon," he added.

Now, Armymen at icy heights to get biryani - India - The Times of India
 

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Draft Arms and Ammunitions Manufacturing Policy - MHA requests inputs

22 Dec 2009 8ak: Deputy Secretary Shri S.K. Malhotra on behalf of the Internal Security II Division of the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) has invited public comments on the Draft Arms and Ammunitions Manufacturing Policy.

In September 2009, the government had issued a Request for Information (RFI) for 9mm guns. Due to the strict licensing procedures, it was felt that even though India had the ability to manufacture these and more weapons indigenously, the government would buy from an overseas manufacturer. This new policy has been drafted to help the indigenisation.

The policy states that the arms & ammunition can only be sold to the paramilitary forces, defence forces and the state governments. They cannot be sold to the general public and strict monitoring will be required to ensure that these weapons are not diverted. Only large companies able to invest over 50 crores are eligible to apply for a license from the Department of Industrial Policy and Promotion (DIPP). FDI of up to 26% would be permitted and exports would be allowed.

Going over the history of arms manufacturing in India the draft policy also mentioned that currently 95 firms are licensed by the Ministry of Home Affairs for the manufacture of guns (single barrel/double barrel) and 25 firms for the manufacture if cartridges (either blank cartridges or live cartridges or both) upto the quota permitted in their licences.

8ak - Indian Defence News: Draft Arms and Ammunitions Manufacturing Policy - MHA requests inputs
 

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India, Israel Discuss More Cooperation

By vivek raghuvanshi, NEW DELHI
Published: 22 Dec 2009 13:11

Indian and Israeli defense officials and top planners met here Dec. 22 to discuss ways to increase defense ties, boost counter-terror efforts and share intelligence.

The sides also discussed potential Israeli training for Indian special forces.

Sources said the sides are also discussing a proposed joint effort to develop a land-warfare missile in a program that might be similar to the Indian Air Force's February agreement to spend $2.2 billion to create a 70-kilometer surface-to-air missile


The meeting of the Joint Working Group (JWG) on Defence was co-chaired by the director-general of Israeli Defence Ministry retired Brigadier-General Pinchas Buchris and Indian Defence Secretary Pradeep Kumar.


India, Israel Discuss More Cooperation - Defense News
 

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