Indian Army: News and Discussion

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

So now she has course corrected

 

[mist_consecutive]

24 is such a pathetically low number. A random Ukrainian village boy has more MANPADs than that.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[Tactical Doge]

More details on this?

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

More details on this?

Army Begins Court Martial Against Its Captain In Amshipora Fake Encounter Case

Jammu and Kashmir Lieutenant Governor Manoj Sinha had visited the families in Rajouri in 2020 and conveyed to them Prime Minister Narendra Modi's message.

www.outlookindia.com

Amshipora fake encounter case: J&K Police produces challan against Army captain, 2 others

The J&K Police has produced challan against three people, including an Army captain, in the Amshipora fake encounter case.

www.indiatoday.in

Amshipura fake encounter: Father waits for justice, Army says proceedings soon

The wait gets longer as the Army is still finishing legal work six months after completion of its internal inquiry

www.thehindu.com

 

[Mangal]

Does anyone has update on what is the status of appointment of new CDS?

 

[WolfPack86]

ARMY INDUCTS RUSSIAN IGLA-S MANPADS
The Army, which has for long been looking for new man portable air defence systems, has inducted a small number of Igla-S systems recently bought from Russia under emergency procurement, according to defence sources. However, a much larger contract for Igla-S systems under the Very Short Range Air Defence System (VSHORAD) deal is still pending and under review by the Defence Ministry.

“The contract was signed in December 2020 and the equipment was delivered by December 2021. This includes 24 launchers, 216 missiles and testing equipment,” one of the sources said.

The procurement was done through the Vice Chiefs emergency financial powers given to the Services for the first time after the Balakot air strike in February 2019 and further extended after the standoff with China in Eastern Ladakh in May 2020. Under this, Services can procure weapons systems upto ₹300 crores on an urgent basis without any further clearances.

In the backdrop of the Russian special military operation in Ukraine and the Western sanctions, India and Russia are working out modalities to utilise the Rupee-Rouble route in a large way for trade and payments. The Ministry is also assessing the impact it would have on the timely execution of deals as well as steady supplies of spares and support.

The larger VSHORAD deal which began in 2010 and saw several rounds of trials and re-trials is still pending.

This deal which was close to conclusion is now under review as part of the overall relook at all direct import deals by the Defence Ministry. Deliberations are still continuing on the larger VSHORAD deal, another defence source said.

The Request for Proposal (RFP) for VSHORAD was issued in October 2010 for over 5,000 missiles, 258 single launchers and 258 multi-launchers. Five contenders responded and eventually three made it to the trials - MBDA of France, Rosoboronexport of Russia and SAAB of Sweden. Eventually all three companies were declared technically compliant in 2017 and Igla-S was declared the lowest bidder in November 2018.

While the benchmark price arrived at by the Army was just over $2 bn, ROSOBORONEXPORT’s bid was much lower at around $1.47 bn, SAAB at about $2.6 bn, and MBDA at about $3.68 bn. This led to much deliberation within the Ministry as the Russian bid was much lower compared to the benchmark price. The deal also saw several allegations of deviations in procedures with some of the vendors sending protest letters.

As per requirements, the VSHORAD should have a maximum range of 6 km, altitude of 3 km along with all-weather capability and will replace the existing Igla in service which is in urgent need of replacement. VSHORAD is the soldier’s last line of defence against enemy combat aircraft and helicopters in the multi-layered air defence network.

In addition to the Igla-S, the Army variant of the Medium Range Surface to Air Missile (MRSAM) being jointly developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) completed trials earlier this month and is now ready for induction. The maiden launch of MRSAM Army Version was conducted in December 2020.

Air Defence functions in three levels – gun/missile system, medium range, and high range. Within this the Air Defence guns are of two types, AD Gun Missile system, AD self propelled guns. The Army is looking for AD guns in both the categories. In the medium segment, it has the indigenous Akash SAM while MRSAM fits in the high range.

Army Inducts Russian IGLA-S MANPADS

Air Defence functions in three levels – gun/missile system, medium range, and high range. Igla-S is a short-range weapon The Army, which has...

www.indiandefensenews.in

 

[Jimih]

 

[pipebomb]

24 is such a pathetically low number. A random Ukrainian village boy has more MANPADs than that.

Drdo is also developing a similar missile by the name of mpdms with similar seeker but with added iff capability. Any update on that.

That village boy has 800+ billion dollar defence budget

 

[vidhwanshak]

Does anyone has update on what is the status of appointment of new CDS?

Maybe, they will wait for someone with whom their frequency matches.

Do you have any idea about how theatrisation is going on after the untimely demise of CDS Rawat Ji?

 

[Blademaster]

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So when will GoI stop promoting generals based on seniority and start promoting based on merit?

 

[SGOperative]

So when will GoI stop promoting generals based on seniority and start promoting based on merit?

I guess its done so that some koi chamcha na promote hojaye, Its not far fetched

 

[vidhwanshak]

So when will GoI stop promoting generals based on seniority and start promoting based on merit?

not anytime soon.
Do you remember when CDS Rawat was promoted out of order? How did the opposition create a ruckus?

 

[Blademaster]

not anytime soon.
Do you remember when CDS Rawat was promoted out of order? How did the opposition create a ruckus?

So let the opposition create a ruckus. We have power now. Let's use it to make some real changes.

 

[vidhwanshak]

So let the opposition create a ruckus. We have power now. Let's use it to make some real changes.

IMO, then again people will say that this government is promoting chamchas.

Armed Forces themselves, have to recommend to the govt that the rule of seniority-based promotion should be finished.

 

[Jimih]

So when will GoI stop promoting generals based on seniority and start promoting based on merit?

Story of all Government Jobs in India.

 

[Blademaster]

IMO, then again people will say that this government is promoting chamchas.

Armed Forces themselves, have to recommend to the govt that the rule of seniority-based promotion should be finished.

No the civilians are in charge of the military. Civilians tell the military to use merit based promotion and finish off seniority based promotion. Otherwise we end up like Pakistan where the PA tells the civilian government what to do. At all times, civilians remain in control of the top echelon of the military.

 

[Blademaster]

Story of all Government Jobs in India.

Then the next GOI government should make merit based promotion as number on priority change.

 

[assassin162]

So let the opposition create a ruckus. We have power now. Let's use it to make some real changes.

Are bhai।
Govt has promoted the guy it wanted only। That's why MM Naravane was not made CDS till now and waited for others to retire so that Pandey could become the most senior। They just waited it out rather than selecting Pandey out of order। They are getting their two guys, without creating a ruckus।

 

[Blademaster]

Ok but how can the IA under Pandey promote generals and officers on merits?