Indian Army: News and Discussion

[Vinod DX9]

Post independence biggest military reform?

 

[Vinod DX9]

Shyam Chaurasia from Varanasi makes an exo skeleton "for army"

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Shyam Chaurasia from Varanasi makes an exo skeleton "for army"View attachment 19584

I wish i was Tony Stark and i could make some Patriots for our Army and Crpf against stone peltors.

 

[indiandefencefan]

Indian Army scraps LMG tender
Rahul Bedi - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
30 August 2017

India’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) has terminated its three-year-old tender to procure 9,462 7.62 mm light machine guns (LMGs) for the Indian Army (IA) for about INR3 billion (USD46.8 million).

Official sources told Jane’s that the contract was scrapped on 9 August 2017 after Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) emerged as the sole vendor with its Negev NG7 model, after beating the LMG fielded by Bulgaria’s Arsenal in user trials between 2015 and early 2017.

Successive editions of India’s Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) have been ambiguous about finalising contracts involving sole vendors. As a result, the MoD has opted to cancel such contracts to preclude allegations of wrongdoing.

http://www.janes.com/article/73441/indian-army-scraps-lmg-tender

 

[sthf]

Damnnit!!! I was hoping that this gets through.

Atleast now we know that NG7 cleared the competitive trials against Bulgarian PKM.

 

[Vinod DX9]

Some sources say, Mr Prakash Javadekar may be the new Defence Minister of the country!
When will we be more serious regarding defence? Can't we give the responsibility to someone who really has the experience about the loop holes in our defence and himself can understand what changes should be brought?
Another sad news. Sushma mam may be resign from MEA! The brightest star in the cabinet,and when the star wants to make distance,nothing can be more painful. If true,then after Parrikar,we may loss another jewel,and rather can be said a Kohinoor

 

[Vinod DX9]

#Breaking

@nsitharaman Nirmala Sitharaman mam is the new defence minister, before this she handle the commerce ministry portfolio

 

[Suryavanshi]

#Breaking

@nsitharaman Nirmala Sitharaman mam is the new defence minister, before this she handle the commerce ministry portfolio
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Is this any good?
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[Vinod DX9]

We will know by next year. I don't think without giving her a chance to prove, we can criticize her. However, we can hypothesised if someone know how did she handle commece ministry portfolio.

 

[Adioz]

#Breaking

@nsitharaman Nirmala Sitharaman mam is the new defence minister, before this she handle the commerce ministry portfolio
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Is this any good?
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We will know by next year. I don't think without giving her a chance to prove, we can criticize her. However, we can hypothesised if someone know how did she handle commece ministry portfolio.

Relevant thread: Cabinet reshuffle September 2017

 

[ezsasa]

We will know by next year. I don't think without giving her a chance to prove, we can criticize her. However, we can hypothesised if someone know how did she handle commece ministry portfolio.

As commerce minister:

Ease of doing business state wise was introduced.

Foreign investment promotion board was closed.

Foreign investment rules were relaxed.

 

[Mikesingh]

I would love to see her in a g-suit flying in a SU-30, a trip on the nuke sub Arihant, sailing with the Vikramaditya and visiting Siachen! She needs to get a feel of the Forces she's heading!

But would she do it? That's the million dollar question!

 

[Vinod DX9]

18 Rudra,40 ALH coming for Army

 

[Kyubi]

18 Rudra,40 ALH coming for Army
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that dog though !!!! is more lucky than the rest of us... it gets to see the killer chopper from close quaters

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

 

[TPFscopes]

Ashok Leyland Defence Systems (ALDS), part of Hinduja Group flagship Ashok Leyland, has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on cooperation with Rosoboronexport (ROE), Russia, and an Indian firm ELCOM Group, to provide tracked vehicle solutions to Indian armed forces

 

[sorcerer]

MHA gives more finance powers to DGs of CRPF, BSF, NIA


Highlights

• The chiefs have been empowered to spend up to Rs 15 crore for executing major projects
• The major projects include construction of buildings, purchase of vehicles besides others
• Earlier, the ministry gave financial powers to the joint secretaries

NEW DELHI: Chiefs of central armed police forces like CRPF and BSF and other central agencies have been empowered to spend up to Rs 15 crore for executing major projects and Rs 1 crore for minor works, including repairing of residential buildings, a home ministry official said.

The home ministry in an order enhanced the financial powers of the directors general of CRPF, BSF, CISF, ITBP, SSB, NSG, Assam Rifles and National Investigation Agency and director of Intelligence Bureau to execute major projects to Rs 15 crore from Rs 10 crore, the official said.

The major projects include construction of buildings, purchase of vehicles besides others.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-dgs-of-crpf-bsf-nia/articleshow/60394866.cms

 

[Trinetra]

India cannot rule out possibility of two-front war with China and Pakistan, Army chief General Bipin Rawat says

HIGHLIGHTS

• Differences with Pak seemed to be “irreconcilable”, with the country continuing to wage proxy war against India, Gen Rawat said.
• China too will continue with its efforts to nibble away Indian territory through “salami slicing”, he added.
• Stressing that war was very much in “realm of reality", he said it was “myth” to assume that nuclear-armed neighbours don't go to war.

File Photo of Army chief General Bipin Rawat

NEW DELHI: India cannot rule out the possibility of a two-front war - with China and Pakistan - despite having credible nuclear deterrence capabilities, said Army chief General Bipin Rawat on Wednesday.

Stating that differences with Pakistan seemed to be "irreconcilable", with the country continuing to wage a proxy war against India, Gen Rawat said China too will continue with its efforts to nibble away Indian territory through "salami slicing" and other measures.

"As far as the northern adversary (China) is concerned, the flexing of muscles has started... Salami slicing, taking over territory in a very gradual manner, testing our limits of threshold... is something we have to be wary about and remain prepared for situations that could develop into conflicts," said Gen Rawat.

The Army chief's warning that India cannot let down its guard on either of the two fronts came at a seminar here, a week after the over 70-day Doklam standoff between India and China was finally diffused with mutual disengagement and withdrawal of troops+ after intensive diplomatic parleys.

The Indian defence establishment has repeatedly warned of a "collusive threat" from Pakistan and China, who often describe themselves as "all-weather friends". After the Doklam crisis, the assessment is that the People's Liberation Army will not shy away from needling India with "transgressions" -- military parlance for intrusions or shallow probes - all along the 4,057-km Line of Actual Control, especially in places like eastern Ladakh and eastern Arunachal Pradesh, as was earlier reported by TOI.

The Army chief, on his part, said Pakistan could well swing into action to take advantage of such situations when India is busy with problems on the China front. "We have to be prepared for conflict on the northern and western borders," said Gen Rawat.

"As far as our western adversary is considered, we don't see any scope of reconciliation because their military, the polity, and the people in that nation have been made to believe that India wants to break their country into pieces," he added.


Stressing that war was very much in the "realm of reality"+ , he said it was "myth" to assume that democracies or nuclear-armed neighbours do not go to war. "Credible deterrence does not take away the threat of war... Nuclear weapons are weapons of deterrence...Yes, they are! But to say that they can deter war, they will not allow nations to go to war, in our context that may also not be true," said Gen Rawat.




"Whether conflicts will be confined or limited in space and time or whether these can expand into an all-out war along the entire front (remains to be seen)... with the western adversary (Pakistan) taking advantage of the situation developing along the northern border (with China) being very much likely," he added.

 

[SanjeevM]

India cannot rule out possibility of two-front war with China and Pakistan, Army chief General Bipin Rawat says

HIGHLIGHTS

• Differences with Pak seemed to be “irreconcilable”, with the country continuing to wage proxy war against India, Gen Rawat said.
• China too will continue with its efforts to nibble away Indian territory through “salami slicing”, he added.
• Stressing that war was very much in “realm of reality", he said it was “myth” to assume that nuclear-armed neighbours don't go to war.

File Photo of Army chief General Bipin Rawat

NEW DELHI: India cannot rule out the possibility of a two-front war - with China and Pakistan - despite having credible nuclear deterrence capabilities, said Army chief General Bipin Rawat on Wednesday.

Stating that differences with Pakistan seemed to be "irreconcilable", with the country continuing to wage a proxy war against India, Gen Rawat said China too will continue with its efforts to nibble away Indian territory through "salami slicing" and other measures.

"As far as the northern adversary (China) is concerned, the flexing of muscles has started... Salami slicing, taking over territory in a very gradual manner, testing our limits of threshold... is something we have to be wary about and remain prepared for situations that could develop into conflicts," said Gen Rawat.

The Army chief's warning that India cannot let down its guard on either of the two fronts came at a seminar here, a week after the over 70-day Doklam standoff between India and China was finally diffused with mutual disengagement and withdrawal of troops+ after intensive diplomatic parleys.

The Indian defence establishment has repeatedly warned of a "collusive threat" from Pakistan and China, who often describe themselves as "all-weather friends". After the Doklam crisis, the assessment is that the People's Liberation Army will not shy away from needling India with "transgressions" -- military parlance for intrusions or shallow probes - all along the 4,057-km Line of Actual Control, especially in places like eastern Ladakh and eastern Arunachal Pradesh, as was earlier reported by TOI.

The Army chief, on his part, said Pakistan could well swing into action to take advantage of such situations when India is busy with problems on the China front. "We have to be prepared for conflict on the northern and western borders," said Gen Rawat.

"As far as our western adversary is considered, we don't see any scope of reconciliation because their military, the polity, and the people in that nation have been made to believe that India wants to break their country into pieces," he added.


Stressing that war was very much in the "realm of reality"+ , he said it was "myth" to assume that democracies or nuclear-armed neighbours do not go to war. "Credible deterrence does not take away the threat of war... Nuclear weapons are weapons of deterrence...Yes, they are! But to say that they can deter war, they will not allow nations to go to war, in our context that may also not be true," said Gen Rawat.




"Whether conflicts will be confined or limited in space and time or whether these can expand into an all-out war along the entire front (remains to be seen)... with the western adversary (Pakistan) taking advantage of the situation developing along the northern border (with China) being very much likely," he added.

Doklam standoff which is over for the the time being, it is a God sent opportunity to prepare ourselves. What are we doing If we are still anticipating 2 front war?

Did Army give orders for mass production of indigenous guns for our soldiers? Did army give orders for mass production of ATAGs? Did army give orders for mass production of Dhanush? Did we start mass producing ammunition for our guns? Or do we intend to import them during war at huge costs? Can we either fix/upgrade T-90/T-70 or mass produce Arjun?

For God's sake, please finalize what u want and approve mass production of indigenous material. Opportunity doesn't give second chances. Let's prepare in time.

 

[Kay]

Is this any good?
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Anything is better than a part time def min.

 

[Adioz]

Doklam standoff which is over for the the time being, it is a God sent opportunity to prepare ourselves. What are we doing If we are still anticipating 2 front war?

Did Army give orders for mass production of indigenous guns for our soldiers? Did army give orders for mass production of ATAGs? Did army give orders for mass production of Dhanush? Did we start mass producing ammunition for our guns? Or do we intend to import them during war at huge costs? Can we either fix/upgrade T-90/T-70 or mass produce Arjun?

For God's sake, please finalize what u want and approve mass production of indigenous material. Opportunity doesn't give second chances. Let's prepare in time.

ATAGS and Dhanush will be ordered after due process of trials. No idea what IA is doing on the small arms front though. Its a clusterfuck. What the Army can do is modernize its other Infantry gear. I dare say there is some movement in that direction. On the Armour front, at least we got a T-72 upgrade ready and a APS system in the works. The BMP-2 replacement is trudging forward, albeit slowly. Army aviation is literally exploding (in size) as a major force multiplier with a number of platforms on order, and in development. Air defence is improving and set to improve further. All in all, Indian Army in 2022 is going to be a lot stronger than Indian Army in 2017 (in terms of firepower). The IAF is the only disappointment with no clear line of sight with respect to their final objective.

Preparation for war is an on-going process, one that that never ends. The threat of 2-front war did not start after Doklam. It has always been there. I wish they would expedite the process, but with Defence ministers changing hands 4 times in 4 years, its surprising that even this pace is being maintained (especially when you compare it with the pace of modernization under UPA-II.