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The RFI states that a gun less than 15 tonnes weight will be preferred, however it is not a necessity. I have not read the whole RFI, but is there any clause in it regarding the indigenous design of the gun?
 

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That 3-4 ton needed to be check though by ATAGS it's been years knowing that. If still some one is saying they pulled it out from nowhere.. well no they raised this issue years back .
3-4 tons overweight with a 25L chamber? One has to compare apples with apples. None of the sub15-16t guns have the performance of the ATAGS (~50km range with conventional ammo)

at this point why even build world class equipment IDDM when these clowns will find some arbitrary reason to exclude it for their foreign preferences.
 

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The RFI states that a gun less than 15 tonnes weight will be preferred, however it is not a necessity. I have not read the whole RFI, but is there any clause in it regarding the indigenous design of the gun?
50% indigenous content for IDDM

60% IC for foreign designs

anyone that tells you the RFI is written for IDDM only is wrong/lying. This is 100% to get a foreign gun
 

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No budy he is
He might not be dynamic like Manohar ji to shove through their throats but he is doing his best not everything under his hand
If he protests more then army has plenty of technical excuses to throw upon him now all he wants is that FRP should go forward
Honestly it’s not politician task nor are they capable of doing it instead they should hire someone who shares their vision as well knows all technicality . Start reforming and handing punishment. what Indian army keep doing is nothing but making india not able to fight industrial warfare so treason case should be used liberally.Not like the way they are doing now with kids glove.
 

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Honestly it’s not politician task nor are they capable of doing it instead they should hire someone who shares their vision as well knows all technicality . Start reforming and handing punishment. what Indian army keep doing is nothing but making india not able to fight industrial warfare so treason case should be used liberally.Not like the way they are doing now with kids glove.
Point I want to make this govt is hellbent fir developing mic
Everyone modi, Manohar ji and rajnath are trying their best
That's the reason u r seeing few developments in indigenous weapons
 

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Point I want to make this govt is hellbent fir developing mic
Everyone modi, Manohar ji and rajnath are trying their best
That's the reason u r seeing few developments in indigenous weapons
Fully agree. But still the army ecosystem (Dalal ecosystem )keep making fool out of them. Political will is required but to implement politcal will capable guy from service is needed. Also private guys also must invest in making ecosystem inside services.
Also harsh punishment are needed to make officers(of any service) fall in line. A concept aliens to Indians.
 
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Fully agree. But still the army ecosystem (Dalal ecosystem )keep making fool out of them. Political will is required but to implement politcal will capable guy from service is needed. Also private guys also must invest in making ecosystem inside services.
Also harsh punishment are needed to make officers(of any service) fall in line. A concept aliens to Indians.
Political will is there. How many times does Modi/GoI need to talk about atmannirbharat? Modi has personally inaugurated Aero india and DefExpos declaring this as the intent. Everything is being pushed from the top down but without the services buying in this isn’t going to happen

orders are where abstract policy/ideas meet the road. It isn’t the job of civilians to draft SQRs, the first time civilians get involved in the process is when the file is moved from the service HQ to MoD AFTER evaluations have occurred and recommendations made by the uniformed personnel

all these guys know what’s expected of them, in their lexicon they understand the commanders’ intent but are wilfully playing these games with only one desired outcome.
 

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Political will is there. How many times does Modi/GoI need to talk about atmannirbharat? Modi has personally inaugurated Aero india and DefExpos declaring this as the intent. Everything is being pushed from the top down but without the services buying in this isn’t going to happen

orders are where abstract policy/ideas meet the road. It isn’t the job of civilians to draft SQRs, the first time civilians get involved in the process is when the file is moved from the service HQ to MoD AFTER evaluations have occurred and recommendations made by the uniformed personnel

all these guys know what’s expected of them, in their lexicon they understand the commanders’ intent but are wilfully playing these games with only one desired outcome.
I know for sure (in other deparment). The officers do completely opposite to what is expected to them. Gov says ,complete project in 4 yrs(project running already late not to mention overpriced becoz of some exotic paints and material due to kickbacks with 10 different consultants for same type of structure) project is still running and no end in sight. . Should have burn down all British era institutions.
 

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That 3-4 ton needed to be check though by ATAGS it's been years knowing that. If still some one is saying they pulled it out from nowhere.. well no they raised this issue years back .

Other than that... Ram Jaane !



Bharat 52 already got a small export order from Saudis within 2 years of trials.
What is your source? I can not see a single report which confirms it being ordered nor any photu
It was being trialled by them , that is the last news
 

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Nope, just a guy who got stung by the tank fetish virus when he was 10 and been furiously pirating all the books, literature, and research data on the subject ever since. Anyway, you are a senile old moron and a damn ignorant one at that.
Blood+ we know your strong distaste for Arjun but there is no reason to keep attacking DFI posters who disagree with you on Arjun.
 

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We need our money back. This xhutiyas have no accountability for such cruel wastage of TAXPAYERS money.
Best thing is to remove army from procurement and make another commitee who decides the procurement by looking into 360 degree advatages of using indian products.

SOMETIMES I WONDER OUR GENROLS JUST FELL FOR FOREIGN MAAL AND GAAL...HOW MANY MOLES MUST BE THERE IN OUR SYSTEM !!!!!

ITS EASY TO BEAT INDIA..
 

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