Indian Army Artillery

[Kunal Biswas]

Few More ..

TATA Denel Arty Trialing

 

[Prashant12]

52 cal Dhanush Howitzer

 

[aditya g]

It does not look like a commercial truck.

I think the truck has a heavy platform on which gun sits, and the platform lowers giant spades into soft ground before gun fires. So the stability is provided by spades.

There is also a hydraulic 'press' at the back to raise the platform. This way there is no recoil pressure on the suspension.

 

[bengalraider]

The Truck platform was tested in the early 2000s during the BHIM era as a truck mounted gun called the T5-52 Condor.It used a Tatra 813 6x6 platform at that time, the TATA platform has far more load and recoil absorption capability.The Gun is designed to be able to absorb a lot of it's own recoil without harming the truck and without degradation of artillery parameters.

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/t5_52.htm

 

[Indx TechStyle]

The Truck platform was tested in the early 2000s during the BHIM era as a truck mounted gun called the T5-52 Condor.It used a Tatra 813 6x6 platform at that time, the TATA platform has far more load and recoil absorption capability.The Gun is designed to be able to absorb a lot of it's own recoil without harming the truck and without degradation of artillery parameters.

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/t5_52.htm

Really a beauty.


:bounce:

 

[bengalraider]

52 cal Dhanush Howitzer

The whole not making these guns for decades is also a huge scam, these guns were deliberately delayed so the IA would have no choice but to buy Huge numbers of M-46 and D-30 from Soviet stocks, no guessing who raked in the moolah on those deals.
Also now that we have a 52 cal ready why continue making 414 copies of the 45 cal should we not expedite trials of this gun and put it into production asap.

 

[garg_bharat]

Commonality of parts is not an issue for local companies, as they would support the guns long term.

For example if 1800 guns are required, the order can be split three way into OFB, Tata, Kalyani; all making one third of the total number.

MGS for mountains is not selling well. There is a logistical plan in force today, which requires pre-positioning of equipment in mountainous areas. Roads are difficult to maintain in Himalayas, and often subject to damage by natural reasons and sabotage.

MGS may be better for plains and jungles of low hills where roads are good. But again the benefit is ONLY quick redeployment.

For plains, a tracked vehicle may be better. Again there is no huge benefit over towed for defensive positions.

 

[porky_kicker]

For example if 1800 guns are required, the order can be split three way into OFB, Tata, Kalyani; all making one third of the total number.

well that is a idea which army might opt for if they see merit in it.
u and i can only cross our fingers.

forgive my mistake i mistook ur "pre-positioning" as site preparation before firing.

i think u meant staging of future MGS like CAESAR MGS on Ashok Leyland chassis and other equipment's in forward operating bases.
most of these forward operating bases are well connected and kept well supplied / stocked.
caesar has good off road capability, wont be a problem in the Himalayas.
i have been to TAWANG , LEH , INNER LINE AREA OF ARUNACHAL PRADESH / NAGALAND , i have seen trucks plying provided weather/geological conditions permit so , so should not be a problem for a MGS too, any nature related hurdles will be tackled by the engineering services.

 

[garg_bharat]

I agree with your points.

Yes MGS can be moved like any truck and its mobility is better than towed. I agree. However mobility in mountains (overall) is an issue and cannot be taken for granted.

The mobility will suffer in wartime due to damage to bridges etc. So numbers and prepositioning will help more compared to mobility.

Lightweight artillery that can be positioned using helicopters is a must. This is why MOD has already approved M777. I think there is merit in looking at Kalyani light guns as well.

 

[garg_bharat]

Technology is a spurious argument in case of Army. Most army technology is within industrial base of the country. There is nothing special in an imported gun that an Indian gun cannot provide.

Air force and Navy are more tech intensive, so there are some genuine arguments there. Not in case of army.

 

[PaliwalWarrior]

I agree with your points.

Yes MGS can be moved like any truck and its mobility is better than towed. I agree. However mobility in mountains (overall) is an issue and cannot be taken for granted.

The mobility will suffer in wartime due to damage to bridges etc. So numbers and prepositioning will help more compared to mobility.

Lightweight artillery that can be positioned using helicopters is a must. This is why MOD has already approved M777. I think there is merit in looking at Kalyani light guns as well.

BH UT then we need to invest in carrier helicopters

How many guns can be transported using howm many helos in a given time ?

Also what about munitions

Without munitions guns in proper positions are useless

 

[Indx TechStyle]

A quick update on India's deadly "Pinaka Multi-Barrel Rocket Launcher System"
The New Guided Version of Pinaka with 100km range

India's latest indigenous Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher (MBRL), Pinaka Mk II which can carry 12 Pinaka rockets while a Pinaka system have 6 launchers, taking the total to 72 rockets and all can be fired under 44 seconds. It's calibre is 214mm and has a minimum 20km range and maximum 60km range.

Each Pinaka Mk II rocket have a length of 5.175m and a total weight of 326kgs. Each Pinaka Mk II rocket can carry 132kgs of RHE or incendiary or pre fragmented types of warheads. It is powered by 132kgs of high energy fuel or propellant which have total burn time of 5.9 seconds and total impulse of 32,500 kgf-s, thanks to pyrotechnic based nozzle end ignition system. It has a terminal speed of 4122 kmph or Mach 3.34. The CEP or Circular Error Probability of Pinaka Mk II is 1.5% of the range i.e ~300m for 20km to ~900m for 65km. This is normal considering MLRS are generally unguided and often requires a complete salvo attack to eliminate a threat such as army of soldiers, regiment of tanks or howitzers within 1 sq.km.


Metallurgy ::

The front nozzle of the rocket is made from 40Ni6Cr4Mo3 steel alloy while the rear nozzle is made from HE15 alluminium alloy. Rocket is coated with SP16 powder for thermal protection. Motor tube of Pinaka is made from SAE 1430 steel alloy and protected by Ethlene Propylene Diene Rubber (EPDR) from extremely high temperature.


Meet the new Pinaka 2 ::

Defexpo 16 is over. Many people attended, watched the gadgets presented there, yet some of them slipped from their eyes.

Called as Pinaka ER (Extended Range) or Pinaka 2 (not to be confused with Pinaka Mk II). This new Pinaka is a huge jump in Indian MLRS technology as it has terminal guidance. Pinaka 2's Guidance Unit is jointly developed by Alpha Design Technologies (India) and MBDA Systems (Europe) while the rest of the rocket part is totally indigenous. The Guidance unit is fitted with canard fins for course correction, thermal battery, actuator electronics, fuze electronics, power supply, GPS antenna with GPS receiver (with high possibility of making it compatible with IRNSS) etc.

The new Pinaka 2 is designed with reducing collateral damage in mind, so that enemy targets can be precisely targetted without the fear of killing friendlies near enemy forces. The new Guidance Unit will help Pinaka to attain a CEP of few metres.! Its got spinning tail fins instead of the straight petal fins of Pinaka Mk I & Mk II (see the image).The range is confirmed to be max 100km while the minimum is 20km. However, the calibre of the new guided Pinaka is not yet known, 214mm is likely, but 300mm is still a possibility, as it can be smart alternative to 90km Russian Smerch MLRS. No date for tests is announced yet.

Special thanks to Defence Technology analyst Prasun K. Sengupta for his unmatched coverage of DefExpo 2016.

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This article has been written by Mohammad Noor Alam exclusively for DefenceNews.in
B.Com 4th Sem
Guwahati

 

[PaliwalWarrior]

The M-46 units will be mordenised with fire control units and upgunned to 155/45 cal.
The Vijayanta Catapults will be phased out and replaced with Arjun Catapults.
The Abbot units will be replaced with the Vajra.
The D-30 units will be replaced by Dhanush.
The Indian Field gun units will be replaced by ATAGS from 2020 onwards.
Other Arty like Bharat-52 might also be procured to upgun some regiments operating the IFG earlier.
There will be new regiments raised for M777 .

What are

Vijayanta catapult & Arjun catapult

What arebBott & vajta units ?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Pinaka 2 which has 68km in range is just up-gradation of present Pinaka 1, The most notable change is the rockets which have GPS / INS guidance ..

With this, The rocket are more precision guided ammunition than just dumb rockets in salvos, The overall upgrade is more for precision than long range ..

Imho, Prahaar is design to take place of BM-30 ..

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Details .. >>

Pinaka Rocket`s GPS kit ..

New Pinaka Rockets in tests

GPS Antenna: Increased application of Global Positioning Systems (GPS) for navigational aids, necessitated the development of low profile antennas. Two types of low profile antennas, viz., Wraparound Microstrip Antenna for Pinaka Rocket and Quadrifilar Helix Antenna for manpack GPS have been developed by DRDO. The development of GPS antenna for Pinaka, along with its feed network, is a challenging task as it requires antenna to be conformal with the cylindrical body of the rocket. Quadrifilar Helix Antenna is one of the preferred antennas for GPS application owing to its smaller size and cardioid pattern.


Specifications>>

Centre frequency : 1575.4 MHz
Bandwidth : � 3 MHz
Polarisation : RHCP
Gain : Better than 0 dB
VSWR : < 2:1
Radiation pattern : Hemispherical
Axial ratio : < 6 dB
The antennas have been fabricated, tested and are undergoing field trials.[/QUOTE]

DRDO
Shared by mainly > @Twinblade

 

[indiatester]

^^^
@Kunal Biswas, shouldn't they have tested with IRNSS as well?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

^^^
@Kunal Biswas, shouldn't they have tested with IRNSS as well?

Let IRNSS get completed on 28 April and be operational next month.
Then not only this one, you'll see many tests of many weapons which could be integrated with IRNSS.

 

[AbRaj]

A quick update on India's deadly "Pinaka Multi-Barrel Rocket Launcher System"
The New Guided Version of Pinaka with 100km range

India's latest indigenous Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher (MBRL), Pinaka Mk II which can carry 12 Pinaka rockets while a Pinaka system have 6 launchers, taking the total to 72 rockets and all can be fired under 44 seconds. It's calibre is 214mm and has a minimum 20km range and maximum 60km range.

Each Pinaka Mk II rocket have a length of 5.175m and a total weight of 326kgs. Each Pinaka Mk II rocket can carry 132kgs of RHE or incendiary or pre fragmented types of warheads. It is powered by 132kgs of high energy fuel or propellant which have total burn time of 5.9 seconds and total impulse of 32,500 kgf-s, thanks to pyrotechnic based nozzle end ignition system. It has a terminal speed of 4122 kmph or Mach 3.34. The CEP or Circular Error Probability of Pinaka Mk II is 1.5% of the range i.e ~300m for 20km to ~900m for 65km. This is normal considering MLRS are generally unguided and often requires a complete salvo attack to eliminate a threat such as army of soldiers, regiment of tanks or howitzers within 1 sq.km.


Metallurgy ::

The front nozzle of the rocket is made from 40Ni6Cr4Mo3 steel alloy while the rear nozzle is made from HE15 alluminium alloy. Rocket is coated with SP16 powder for thermal protection. Motor tube of Pinaka is made from SAE 1430 steel alloy and protected by Ethlene Propylene Diene Rubber (EPDR) from extremely high temperature.


Meet the new Pinaka 2 ::

Defexpo 16 is over. Many people attended, watched the gadgets presented there, yet some of them slipped from their eyes.

Called as Pinaka ER (Extended Range) or Pinaka 2 (not to be confused with Pinaka Mk II). This new Pinaka is a huge jump in Indian MLRS technology as it has terminal guidance. Pinaka 2's Guidance Unit is jointly developed by Alpha Design Technologies (India) and MBDA Systems (Europe) while the rest of the rocket part is totally indigenous. The Guidance unit is fitted with canard fins for course correction, thermal battery, actuator electronics, fuze electronics, power supply, GPS antenna with GPS receiver (with high possibility of making it compatible with IRNSS) etc.

The new Pinaka 2 is designed with reducing collateral damage in mind, so that enemy targets can be precisely targetted without the fear of killing friendlies near enemy forces. The new Guidance Unit will help Pinaka to attain a CEP of few metres.! Its got spinning tail fins instead of the straight petal fins of Pinaka Mk I & Mk II (see the image).The range is confirmed to be max 100km while the minimum is 20km. However, the calibre of the new guided Pinaka is not yet known, 214mm is likely, but 300mm is still a possibility, as it can be smart alternative to 90km Russian Smerch MLRS. No date for tests is announced yet.

Special thanks to Defence Technology analyst Prasun K. Sengupta for his unmatched coverage of DefExpo 2016.

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This article has been written by Mohammad Noor Alam exclusively for DefenceNews.in
B.Com 4th Sem
Guwahati

So we will provide pakis large NATRAJ HB PENCILS :biggrin2:

 

[bengalraider]

What are

Vijayanta catapult & Arjun catapult

What arebBott & vajta units ?

Vijayanta Catapult = 130mmM46 gun on Vijayanta Tank Chassis.

Arjun Catapult= same gun on Arjun Chassis

Abbott= a 105mm SPG from the 60's

K9 VAJRA SPG= One of the Latest 155mm SPHs in the process of being ordered for the IA.It will be built in India by L&T.

 

[Shaitan]

You can see Arjun Catapult being used.

 

[shiphone]

OFB offers two kinds of Drag-Ring for the Pinaka MK2 MRLS...

the normal Rocket has a Max range of 58.75km... with the Drag Ring A on ,the Max range could be limited to 30-35.9 km , if bigger drag ring B was attached ,the Max range could be reduced to around 22 km significantly ...
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DRAG RING on the rocket...