Indian Army Armored Vehicles

Twinblade

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what part of the tata whap is indegeneous exactly?
The vehicle is designed by VRDE and it will be developed and manufactured by Tata motors. It draws from earlier experience of Abhay IFV TD and LAWV TD.

Wheeled Armoured Platform (WhAP) specs:-

Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW)- 26 tons
GVW in amphibious role - 22.5 tons
Operating Temperature -20 to +55 degree celcius
Operating altitude: Up to 4000 meters
Armament: 30mm turret (on prototype vehicle-1), 7.62 mm RCWS (on prototype vehicle-2)
Power pack to be supplied by VRDE (most likely Greaves Cotton power pack used on Abhay)

Specifications of Whap Hull
 

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i hope they come out with tracked version too.it could sport a 105/120mm gun of smaller caliber.remote controleed turret and we get a desi light tank in the 30-35 ton weight category for LAC.
 

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Not sure where to post but this thread appears appropriate

Buyer Calls the Shots

The ongoing modernisation of the armed forces offer unprecedented opportunities for indigenisation
Armour

The Indian Army's Armoured Corps has also been affected by the slowdown in the economy that has impacted the modernisation drive to replace/upgrade its massive tank fleet. This means that armoured regiments will have to make do with their older tanks which suffer from night blindness, lack modern fire control systems and have underpowered power packs.

The Indian Army will continue to field close to 3,000 upgraded T-72 and T-90 MBTs over the next two decades, with the T-90s serving till 2030 and beyond. Almost half of the 1,657 T-90 tanks planned have already been inducted as of last year. The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) also approved the manufacture of an additional 235 T-90S tanks worth almost Rs 6,000 crore last year. The Indian Army is now said to have only 800 T-90 tanks in service out of a planned total of 1,657 (plus 235 from the latest order).

In August last year, Bharat Dynamic Limited (BDL), Hyderabad, signed a contract for supplying Invar Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (ATGM) to the Indian Army valued at Rs 3,000 crore. Deliveries are expected to be completed by 2018 and BDL has been manufacturing these missiles under technical collaboration with M/s Rosoboronexport of Russia. The T-90 is capable of firing the Invar which is a laser beam rider ATGM. It has a range of five km and is capable of destroying enemy tanks fitted with Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA) protection. There are also plans for the license manufacture and delivery of advanced 3UBK20 (Mango) tank ammunition. All 16,000 rounds from a 2010 order for Fin Stabilized Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FSAPDS) ammunition would have been delivered by now.

The shortage of ammunition for the T-72 and T-90 tanks has been an area of concern for quite a while now as indigenous efforts to produce state-of-the-art ammunition have not been very successful. The ageing T-72 tanks have experienced bursting tank barrels, with over 200 such cases having been reported last year according to reports in the media. Reports now suggest that the T-72s will have their main gun barrels replaced with that of the T-90 and approximately 800 T-90 barrels are likely to be procured in the near future. Facilities for overhaul of Tank T-72 were established in 1994 at HVF Avadi and in order to enhance the annual overhaul capacity, parallel facilities for overhaul were also created at 505 Army Base Workshop in 2005.

The Arjun Mark-II MBT is undergoing user trials and if all goes well, production orders should be placed next year. As per plans, at present orders for 118 Arjun Mark-IIs have been placed and HVF Avadi would be in a position to deliver the first tank 30 months after the order is placed. With a production rate of 30 tanks a year, the entire order would be completed by 2021 (realistically, this is likely to slip by a few years). Deliveries for 124 Arjun Mark-I tanks are now complete and 43rd armoured regiment at Jaisalmer and 75th armoured regiment have 45 tanks each. No further orders are expected for the Mark-I, which cost Rs 20 crore a piece. The cost for each Arjun Mark-II is estimated at around Rs 34-37 crore.

Major improvements featured on MBT Arjun MK II over MK I

1 To provide Missile Firing Capability using LAHAT missile and Add-on Laser Target designator
2 Commander's Panoramic Sight with Thermal Imager will provide day and night surveillance with third generation thermal Imager
3 Ten round containerized bin for enhanced crew protection
4 Roof Mounted Driver's Seat (RMDS) that provides protection for driver against mine blast
5 Uncooled Thermal Imager (Driver's Night Sight) that facilitates night driving through sight with Thermal Imager
6 Incorporation of Mine plough with magnetic signature duplicator. The Magnetic Signature duplicator will detonate magnetically influenced mine ahead to tank by projecting magnetic image of tank
7 Incorporation of Explosive Reactive Armour panels that provide protection against tandem warheads and kinetic energy projectiles.
8 Remote firing of Air Defence gun (360 degrees) by the loader with hatch closed
9 Effective Alternate to Muzzle Reference System (MRS)
10 Advanced Land Navigation System that provides for navigation using GPS and inertial navigation
11 Automatic Target Tracking (ATT) in Gunner's Main Sight that aids the gunner to automatically track the target enhancing accuracy and provides for ease of engagement
12 Advanced Running Gear System that caters for increased weight of ARJUN MBT MK II (about 66 tons)
13 New track with increased horn height to cater for increased weight of ARJUN MBT MK II (about 66 tons)
14 New final drive with increased reduction ratio that enhances tractive effort and caters for increased weight with added benefits
15 Laser Warning Countermeasure System enables identification threats and taking evasive action using smoke Grenade Discharger
16 New types of ammunition with increased penetration cater for the current threat spectrum
17 Resin based Combustible Case Cartridge for ammunition
18 It provides effective camouflage against detection through thermal imager


Since 2012, the Indian Army has also been seeking to upgrade its Infantry Combat Vehicles from BMP-2/2K to BMP-2M along with a new power pack for an estimated cost of Rs 8,000 crore (USD 1.3 billion). The BMP-2 is the main combat vehicle used by mechanised infantry units of the Indian Army.

As per the Request for Information (RFI) that has been released by the army "BMP-2M is envisaged to have the same physical specifications as BMP-2/2K with minor changes. The thrust of upgrades will be to provide better observation and surveillance, night-fighting capability, fire control system, improved ATGM system and 30mm Automatic Grenade Launcher (AGL) to provide capability to engage dead ground to support assault of dismounted troops. The changes should be without replacement of existing turret, with minimum cutting of armour." Approximately 1,400 ICVs are expected to be upgraded.

The army is also looking for a 'new power pack with a minimum 360 HP engine including running gear and suspension' for its BMP-2/2Ks. Presently, they are fitted with indigenised UTD-20 engines. According to the army, the UTD-20 engine has a power output of 285 (±15) which is inadequate for BMP-2/2K as it, affects 'cross country mobility, floatation and gradient negotiating capability' and is unable to take any add-ons. The new engine with running gear and suspension will offer better mobility, acceleration and gradability (ability to climb slopes). Requirements as per the RFI call for power-pack life expectancy of 8,000 km/800 hr and ability to operate at an altitude of 14,000 feet with adequate power to negotiate obstacles, among others.
 

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DRDO all set for summer trials of UGVs

The Combat Vehicles Research & Development Establishment (CVRDE), Avadi-based (near Chennai) DRDO lab, is warming up to take two of its unmanned ground vehicles (UGVs) for summer trials in the next two months. CVRDE Director Dr P Sivakumar told Express on Friday that the UGVs -- Muntra-N (designed for NBC -- Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical reconnaissance) and Muntra-M (designed for mine detection missions) are currently undergoing lab level trials at Avadi ahead of the summer trials. DRDO had exhibited Muntra-S (meant for surveillance) during the DefExpo in 2012 and the scientists say that the vehicle has already completed the desert trials successfully. Muntra stands for Mission Unmanned Tracked.

 

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The LAMV is developed indigenously with technical inputs from Supacat of the UK, for vital reconnaissance mobility, protection and firepower. A light patrol vehicle, the LAMV combines an integrated blast and ballistic protection system, including a protected all composite detachable crew pod and V-shaped hull, providing an all-round protection. Carrying a crew of six (two+four) and using the latest composite and ceramic armour systems, the crew pod is constructed as a separate module, sealed off from potential secondary projectiles. All seats are mine-blast protected. The LAMV has exceptional all-terrain high mobility performance, high power-to-weight ratio, automatic transmission, all-wheel independent suspension and can reach speeds of upto 105 kmph. The vehicle is also loaded with modern equipment for observation, surveillance and communication, configured to also address urban warfare, engaging threat on all terrains.

 

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^^

An interesting modification on OFB MPV, The roof does not only feature cargo carrier, But also IED jammer ( Radio controlled )


IED Jammer

Because the IED Jammer can broadcast RF Jamming interference on multiple frequencies simultaneously, all known threats can be addressed.


All known comms frequencies you want to use would be jammed as well, I suppose.
 

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IED Jammer





All known comms frequencies you want to use would be jammed as well, I suppose.
Jammers are not generally used unless involves large convoy or high rank officers .
Generally an QRT team involving bomb disposal squad patrol the assigned route in advance and checks all possible routes of ambush points
 

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Lol. Fake news as usual.

First batch of 300-350 tanks have already been produced.

Two batches are still left pending and we don't yet know if the second batch production has already started.
 

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Russians will say, because of this problem we made T90SM, now buy 3800 (Indian tanks sanction limit) of these new T90SM.
It is not so one-sided. The Russians won't mind selling us T-55s also, and they won't really want us to stop at 3800 either.

Have you ever been to a shop and the shopkeeper says, "Please don't buy stuff from me?" It's never happened to me and I doubt it ever will. The Russians are no different.
 

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So here is the list of issues with T90S

1. They didnt sold us Fire control source code
I have followed T-90 news for years now and there was no such thing ever mentioned.

2. No tech for armor (OFB has to use Kanchan for Arjun tank)
We need ToT if we are to put our armor in the tank.

3. Gun tech was not give.
Given in 2008. We made our first barrel in 2009. The tanks supplied to the army in 2007 had their barrels replaced with the new one.

4. No AC (DRDO has to make AC)
They did not make a Thar desert compatible AC. It is better if DRDO makes it, since we can put the same thing on our other vehicles with dedicated modifications. It can be used on our FMBT in the future, instead of starting one from scratch.

5. Issue with Thermal sight.
Solved in 2006.

6. No APU.
T-90 has something that was considered better at the time. It has batteries that power the turret when the engine is switched off. Now, electronics have taken over and need more power, so APU is needed. Current APU in the tank is a 1KW system that allows communications.

The batteries recharge when the engine turns on again.

7. Issues with missile firing earlier (dont know what happen) (even otherwise it does not give any advantage over what Pakistan have)
What happened?

8. Navigational system.
It is Indian/Israeli.

9. Ammo price 3-4 times then what was sold earlier.
It was an unrealistic demand from MoD. They wanted new ammo in 2010 at 2000 prices. How will they get it? That's where the 4X story comes from. Add a bit of sensationalism, and you have a nice T-90 bashing story.

10. No active protection system.
It doesn't really change things.
 

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So here is the list of issues with T90S

1. They didnt sold us Fire control source code
2. No tech for armor (OFB has to use Kanchan for Arjun tank)
3. Gun tech was not give.
4. No AC (DRDO has to make AC)
5. Issue with Thermal sight.
6. No APU.
7. Issues with missile firing earlier (dont know what happen) (even otherwise it does not give any advantage over what Pakistan have)
8. Navigational system.
9. Ammo price 3-4 times then what was sold earlier.
10. No active protection system.
So except for engine and auto loader, you are looking at brand new tank made by DRDO.......................and we paid top $$$ through trials conducted by our DGMF.............:mad:
So in other way: good marketing and sales menageres in Russia :)
And this trade whit so many problems for IA was possible only thanks to pointles and too long Arjun program.
In fact Arjun is developing since when -1980s? And what result? Buing T-72M1 Aleya. Ok, Arjun is still developing in whole 1990s, Pakistan bought VERY modern T-80U, so India must buy in 2000s T-90S and countrbalance for Pakistani tanks.
Arjun during whole 2000s is still developing (word long time record was taken here...). Pakistani developed quite good Chineese-Ukrianian-Pakistani Al-Chalid and Al-Chalid1, 2010 India is still without ended Arjun on aceptable level.

Russia dictate sucht trades for India becouse IA have no other option -just buing more and more T-90S as "gap filter".
And all is cause by to long Arjun program.
 

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and don't blame T-90S tank. It's exatly that tank what was needed by IA.
You got quality on cost level IMHO. And I suppose that:
a) thre was no third option for IA in whole 2000s. - T-72M1 made "base" and it's supply simmilar to T-90S so whole think was cheper for IA.
b) T-90S is guite good tank. Of course it have some flaws but it can be "fixed" by modernisation right now. Only interesting think is indian Kanhan armour quality as protection.

As I said: Arjun program is too long and the result is buing next T-90S on Russian rulles. Becouse IA have no other option in fact.
 

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