SilentlAssassin265
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Why are they integrating spike if nag is available
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and stop the gravy train just like that ? nooo
"last gen"/"outdated" arguments are only used against local stuff. Meanwhile army is still slinging wire-guided Konkurs down the range.
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Republic day 2023 rehearsal
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What’s this for now?
WhAP exists, Abhay MK.2 exists
how many projects without orders are going to be churned out?
WhAP exists, Abhay MK.2 exists
how many projects without orders are going to be churned out?
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Same project with different paint
They will keep reinventing this until import army buys it
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Lets tweet Anand Mahindra and ask about the status of ASLV.
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Just my thoughts,
Advanced Armoured Platforms (Tracked and Wheeled) which are to be developed will use a lot of common technologies and parts so it will help in maintenance and all sort of things. Both the platforms will inherit a lot from WhAP and Abhay. I think of them as next generation versions of WhAP and Abhay.
IA is yet to give any substantial orders for WhAP but they might reach a figure of around close to 400 but with these vehicles we might see the numbers going upto 1500+ each if they get selected as FICV. Since, L&T is already developing its own FICV, so I am not sure which company will partner with DRDO
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Isn’t this back to square 1? Remember how the original FICV was meant to have tracked and wheeled variants? This was back in ~2015, then they broke it up, Kestral/WhAP emerged and FICV proceeded as a tracked only proposal for industry. Now back to this and still not even the EOI is out, literally 15 years from now there won’t be any vehicle (tracked or wheeled) ordered just going around the houses
+ what happened to that RFI for 200 wheeled recce vehicles the Kestral was supposedly a certainty to get?
they’ve ordered less than 10 (IPMV) and completely killed the program with their ‘next gen’ demands. Unreal.
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They nagged for it to be amphibious, then demanded for the amphibious capabilities to be removed for the token order
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Indeed. WhAP by design (as spec’d by the IA) is amphibious, the units delivered to the IA were spec’d (again by the IA) to not be amphibiousThey nagged for it to be amphibious, then demanded for the amphibious capabilities to be removed for the token order
it’s getting very hard to believe this is sheer incompetence
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Zorawar Light Tank: Kalyani Group to enter race, compete with DRDO
The government may grant permission to the Kalyani Group to go ahead with its plans although the company – which has previously collaborated with American General Dynamics Land Systems – is yet to disclose its partner in this process
New Delhi: The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) may have to face a new competitor in the race to build a new light tank for the Indian Army.
The Kalyani Group may enter the race to build 354 light weight tanks for the Indian Army.
This may pose a challenge for the DRDO, which is working on a prototype for a light tank in collaboration with Larsen & Toubro (L&T) as part of Project Zorawar.
Accroding to a report by Indian Defence Research Wing (IDRW), the prototype developed jointly by the DRDO and L&T is expected to undergo mobility trials after its launch later this year.
The government may grant permission to the Kalyani Group to go ahead with its plans although the company – which has previously collaborated with American General Dynamics Land Systems – is yet to disclose its partner in this process.
American General Dynamics Land Systems has extensive experience in defence production, having previously developed a Mobile Protected Firepower vehicle, which is basically a light tank since it is an armoured, turreted and tracked vehicle with a large gun.
The Kalyani Group has given rise to speculations of a possible collaboration with Turkish military vehicle manufacturer Otokar Otomotiv ve Savunma Sanayi as documents made public by the company feature the TULPAR Light Tank developed by the Turkey based group.
However, it is not clear whether the image of the TULPAR Light Tank used by the Kalyani Group in its documents was for representational purposes or if it is actually trying for a collaboration with the Turkish defence manufacturer.
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The government may grant permission to the Kalyani Group to go ahead with its plans although the company – which has previously collaborated with American General Dynamics Land Systems – is yet to disclose its partner in this process
New Delhi: The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) may have to face a new competitor in the race to build a new light tank for the Indian Army.
The Kalyani Group may enter the race to build 354 light weight tanks for the Indian Army.
This may pose a challenge for the DRDO, which is working on a prototype for a light tank in collaboration with Larsen & Toubro (L&T) as part of Project Zorawar.
Accroding to a report by Indian Defence Research Wing (IDRW), the prototype developed jointly by the DRDO and L&T is expected to undergo mobility trials after its launch later this year.
The government may grant permission to the Kalyani Group to go ahead with its plans although the company – which has previously collaborated with American General Dynamics Land Systems – is yet to disclose its partner in this process.
American General Dynamics Land Systems has extensive experience in defence production, having previously developed a Mobile Protected Firepower vehicle, which is basically a light tank since it is an armoured, turreted and tracked vehicle with a large gun.
The Kalyani Group has given rise to speculations of a possible collaboration with Turkish military vehicle manufacturer Otokar Otomotiv ve Savunma Sanayi as documents made public by the company feature the TULPAR Light Tank developed by the Turkey based group.
However, it is not clear whether the image of the TULPAR Light Tank used by the Kalyani Group in its documents was for representational purposes or if it is actually trying for a collaboration with the Turkish defence manufacturer.
Zorawar Light Tank: Kalyani Group to enter race, compete with DRDO
The government may grant permission to the Kalyani Group to go ahead with its plans although the company – which has previously collaborated with American General Dynamics Land Systems – is yet to disclose its partner in this process
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Most likely Kalyani will offer this tank design.
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No hard kill APS on a ~25t ‘tank’? Not even slat armourMost likely Kalyani will offer this tank design.
the IA really has no battle sense, they are the epitome of a peacetime army, they’ll have to learn the hard way. they don’t seem physically capable of adopting practices from others, they have to taste the pain themselves first.
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Mahindra 8x8 whap ready for army trial
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It doesn't look much different from tata one
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Is it Mahindra’s IP? I thought I saw that it was a Re-badge job which seems to be all of Mahindra defence’s portfolio
just don’t understand why these clowns won’t order the WhAP in large numbers
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Indian Mahindra ALSV received a Spanish 120mm Alakran mortar
MADRID, SPAIN — Spanish company New Technologies Global Systems [NTGS] is targeting the Indian market. This company has integrated its 120 mm Alakran mortar system into the ALSV chassis. ALSV is Armored Light Specialist Vehicle from the Indian firm Mahindra.
The ALSV is now in production for the Indian Army, which has purchased 1,300 units from Mahindra. The variant with the mortar mounted has a protected cabin with two doors. The Alacran mortar is located on the rear platform. This mortar can be integrated into the rear of light 4×4 vehicles or in heavier armored vehicles.
The version of the ALSV with Alakran could be seen last year at a defense fair in India. An official confirmation of the purchase of this system by the Asian country has not yet come out.
Sales in Saudi Arabia and Ukraine
Alakran’s first customer was Saudi Arabia, which received a hundred units installed in Land Cruisers. Ukraine also acquired a batch of eight units in 2017. Their mortar was mounted on the armored 4×4 Bars-8 platform. During the first weeks of the Russian invasion, this vehicle could be seen in action.
The mortar is marketed in the United States by Global Military Products. The manufacturer has also integrated this mortar system on board the Emirati Mir vehicle and more recently in the armored Sherpa from the French Arquus. The Alakran was also evaluated by the Spanish Army as part of the experimental phase of Project Fuerza 2035. The tests took place in the Legion Brigade, a unit chosen to test the materials of the future Army Brigade.
System characteristics
The mortar remains inside the vehicle during trips and is deployed from the rear of the vehicle using an electromechanical actuator. In a few seconds, it rests on the ground on a square base that stabilizes the platform and allows continuous firing at maximum load without transmitting effort to the vehicle that transports it.
According to the manufacturer, the entire operation of deploying, aiming, firing at two different targets, withdrawing, and leaving a position is done in just over a minute. Specifically, it can go into action and fire two 120mm mortar rounds in 67 seconds, then switch to another position before the enemy battery can fire back.
Base configuration
The base configuration of the system includes a crew of three and includes up to 60 120 mm mortar charges and associated components. It also has computerized shot control equipment with a flat-screen. The Alakran mortar has a claimed maximum range of 7,180m for its HE grenades. Ukrainian industry has also developed a 120 mm laser-guided mortar shell. ir is equipped with a high-explosive high-explosive warhead and slightly increases the range to 7,500 meters. In mid-2019, Ukroboronservice released a video of tests with half a dozen of these systems.
In the latest versions, it also integrates an auto-targeting system that includes a GIS [Geographic Information System] and an open BMS [Battle Management System] for the joint use of various Alakran units along with target identification elements. The system also allows the mounting of a mortar with a smaller caliber of 81 mm.
Fast operations
The vehicle is ready to fire in 35 seconds and back on target after firing in just eight seconds. It can be retracted in 25 seconds. Operation from the cockpit and outside the vehicle is made possible by the inclusion of a proprietary fire control system that displays its location and that of assigned targets and includes a ballistic calculation system for multiple types of ammunition. The range varies from 6.5 km with 81 mm to 8 km with 120 mm.
It has a wide fire capacity, firing 12 shots in the first minute and four in sustained fire. It is prepared to work in harsh and desert environments and has protection against solar radiation, dust, and water, to which must be added an integrated weather station. Alakran can also be installed in a vehicle weighing more than 1.5 tons without structural reinforcements and can be transported by helicopter.
bulgarianmilitary.com
MADRID, SPAIN — Spanish company New Technologies Global Systems [NTGS] is targeting the Indian market. This company has integrated its 120 mm Alakran mortar system into the ALSV chassis. ALSV is Armored Light Specialist Vehicle from the Indian firm Mahindra.
The ALSV is now in production for the Indian Army, which has purchased 1,300 units from Mahindra. The variant with the mortar mounted has a protected cabin with two doors. The Alacran mortar is located on the rear platform. This mortar can be integrated into the rear of light 4×4 vehicles or in heavier armored vehicles.
The version of the ALSV with Alakran could be seen last year at a defense fair in India. An official confirmation of the purchase of this system by the Asian country has not yet come out.
Sales in Saudi Arabia and Ukraine
Alakran’s first customer was Saudi Arabia, which received a hundred units installed in Land Cruisers. Ukraine also acquired a batch of eight units in 2017. Their mortar was mounted on the armored 4×4 Bars-8 platform. During the first weeks of the Russian invasion, this vehicle could be seen in action.
The mortar is marketed in the United States by Global Military Products. The manufacturer has also integrated this mortar system on board the Emirati Mir vehicle and more recently in the armored Sherpa from the French Arquus. The Alakran was also evaluated by the Spanish Army as part of the experimental phase of Project Fuerza 2035. The tests took place in the Legion Brigade, a unit chosen to test the materials of the future Army Brigade.
System characteristics
The mortar remains inside the vehicle during trips and is deployed from the rear of the vehicle using an electromechanical actuator. In a few seconds, it rests on the ground on a square base that stabilizes the platform and allows continuous firing at maximum load without transmitting effort to the vehicle that transports it.
According to the manufacturer, the entire operation of deploying, aiming, firing at two different targets, withdrawing, and leaving a position is done in just over a minute. Specifically, it can go into action and fire two 120mm mortar rounds in 67 seconds, then switch to another position before the enemy battery can fire back.
Base configuration
The base configuration of the system includes a crew of three and includes up to 60 120 mm mortar charges and associated components. It also has computerized shot control equipment with a flat-screen. The Alakran mortar has a claimed maximum range of 7,180m for its HE grenades. Ukrainian industry has also developed a 120 mm laser-guided mortar shell. ir is equipped with a high-explosive high-explosive warhead and slightly increases the range to 7,500 meters. In mid-2019, Ukroboronservice released a video of tests with half a dozen of these systems.
In the latest versions, it also integrates an auto-targeting system that includes a GIS [Geographic Information System] and an open BMS [Battle Management System] for the joint use of various Alakran units along with target identification elements. The system also allows the mounting of a mortar with a smaller caliber of 81 mm.
Fast operations
The vehicle is ready to fire in 35 seconds and back on target after firing in just eight seconds. It can be retracted in 25 seconds. Operation from the cockpit and outside the vehicle is made possible by the inclusion of a proprietary fire control system that displays its location and that of assigned targets and includes a ballistic calculation system for multiple types of ammunition. The range varies from 6.5 km with 81 mm to 8 km with 120 mm.
It has a wide fire capacity, firing 12 shots in the first minute and four in sustained fire. It is prepared to work in harsh and desert environments and has protection against solar radiation, dust, and water, to which must be added an integrated weather station. Alakran can also be installed in a vehicle weighing more than 1.5 tons without structural reinforcements and can be transported by helicopter.
Indian Mahindra ALSV received a Spanish 120mm Alakran mortar
NTGS has integrated its 120 mm Alakran mortar system into the chassis of an Armored Light Specialist Vehicle [ALSV] from the Indian firm Mahindra, sources said.
bulgarianmilitary.com
