Indian Army Armored Vehicles

[Godless-Kafir]

The interior needs a bit of sprucing up.....

Why is someone takeing their girlfriend to a party on that?

 

[ace009]

The interior needs a bit of sprucing up.....

I agree - the outside of the vehicle looked ugly enough - but the inside looks FUGLY as hell - and from the 1960s ... where are all the modern panels? Digital dash? Computer? Comm gear?

If this is what DRDO thinks IA deserve in the 21st Century - then they are indeed Dodos.

Inside of a Stryker type ICV ...

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outside view ...

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[Kunal Biswas]

IA and CRPF use these vehicle as mobile pill box, We know the routes and the maps in our brains..

Why to use so much electronics not needed, But truely whats needed to induct HMG and RCWS..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I agree - the outside of the vehicle looked ugly enough - but the inside looks FUGLY as hell - and from the 1960s ... where are all the modern panels? Digital dash? Computer? Comm gear?

If this is what DRDO thinks IA deserve in the 21st Century - then they are indeed Dodos.

Inside of a Stryker type ICV ...

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outside view ...

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Striker Interior with folded nylon chairs, Not comfortable..

Leather and foam fold-able chairs, Comfortable..



Looks fine, no additional weight, Looks better than caspiar 6x6 MPV..

 

[ALBY]

IA and CRPF use these vehicle as mobile pill box, We know the routes and the maps in our brains..

Why to use so much electronics not needed, But truely whats needed to induct HMG and RCWS..

kunal aren't the HMGs meant an overkill in indian context?In US's afghan and iraq ops hmgs would be a necessity due to the ambushes in enemy territory but here the situation is different and MMGs could manage the situation in highly populated areas.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

kunal aren't the HMGs meant an overkill in indian context?In US's afghan and iraq ops hmgs would be a necessity due to the ambushes in enemy territory but here the situation is different and MMGs could manage the situation in highly populated areas.

Indian Context is very large, Do note where CRFP encountered ambushes mostly ?
HMG range is 1500m it can rip through thick vegitaion even trees, It can cut a man in half..


As For Army uses are limitless, do not abt the large variety of terrains and conditions where IA works..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

TATA MPV

OFB MPV

Askok Layland MPV..

Mahindra MPV..





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Stryker APC

 

[ALBY]

Indian Context is very large, Do note where CRFP encountered ambushes mostly ?
HMG range is 1500m it can rip through thick vegitaion even trees, It can cut a man in half..


As For Army uses are limitless, do not abt the large variety of terrains and conditions where IA works..

kunal as far the CRPF is concerned the ambushes they are facing is usually from 2-4 member teams of kashmiri guerillas(except naxal belt).And in kashmir such ambushes usually happen in densely populated areas and HMGS may cause civilian casualties due to its hard hitting ability and superior range.And about naxal areas i never heard of mass charges of maoists against armoured vehicles.they usually blows up vehicles using land mines.But in case of conventional war fare HMGs are just brilliant if deployed.

 

[ace009]

kunal as far the CRPF is concerned the ambushes they are facing is usually from 2-4 member teams of kashmiri guerillas(except naxal belt).And in kashmir such ambushes usually happen in densely populated areas and HMGS may cause civilian casualties due to its hard hitting ability and superior range.And about naxal areas i never heard of mass charges of maoists against armoured vehicles.they usually blows up vehicles using land mines.But in case of conventional war fare HMGs are just brilliant if deployed.

What you need is the ability to mount/ change the machine gun type at the base before you go out for a patrol/ ops. The base mechanics should have the ability to unmount/ mount MMGs or HMGs (or maybe an light AA gun, if there is fear of encountering Pak Helos/ drones) within a few hours.

On that line - how does the machine gunner operate? Does he stand or is there some special seat for him under the machine gun mounting hole?

 

[bhramos]

kunal as far the CRPF is concerned the ambushes they are facing is usually from 2-4 member teams of kashmiri guerillas(except naxal belt).And in kashmir such ambushes usually happen in densely populated areas and HMGS may cause civilian casualties due to its hard hitting ability and superior range.And about naxal areas i never heard of mass charges of maoists against armoured vehicles.they usually blows up vehicles using land mines.But in case of conventional war fare HMGs are just brilliant if deployed.

naxals use only .303, single or double barrel guns, or SLRs.... ,
but these will defenatly be used as best defending in urban warfare...........

 

[bhramos]

TATA MPV

OFB MPV

Askok Layland MPV..

Mahindra MPV..





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Stryker APC

Did Mahendra MPV got selected???
so it got into service!!!!!!!!

 

[agentperry]

ofb mpv have worst interiors. moreover having too many edges and parts inside the cabin is not good bcoz after explosion these things may get detached and fly randomly here and there hurting soldiers( the diversion in ofb mpv at the end of carriage and before driver seat is harmful).

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Did Mahendra MPV got selected???
so it got into service!!!!!!!!

Yes, Under paramilitary service..

But i doubt regarding army..

 

[ace009]

My point was several Kunal -

1. See the Glacis front of the APC (Stryker) - that helps deflect Heavy projectiles. None of the Indian ones have that. For Army use and even for Paramilitary, protection against RPG might be compromised with a regular vehicle design.
2. There's an autocanon up on the roof - can the Indian versions do that? Also, it is pretty high up compared to the rest of the vehicle - offering excellent view for the gunner.
3. The Inside has a large monitor/ screen, which might help with night vision and night ops.
4. The seats are probably as comfortable if not less in the Stryker as the Indian versions, but I wanted to point to the roof, which has multiple exit points - in case of enemy fire from behind/ rear hit / overturned vehicle the infantry can still rapidly egress.

My point is to see Indian manufacturer's specially design a personnel carrier from the grounds up to modern standards and not just modify one of their existing models to supply to the military.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

1. Stryker is a APC is not a MPV/APC, Nor stryker can survive a 20kg blast under wheel..

2. BMP-2 APC can deflect 30mm AP rounds at frontal Armour even a RPG..

3. RCWS can be placed above the roof with a 50cal on most MPVs, BMP2 a APC can deploy 30mm Auto cannon and 30mm AGL with 1 ATGM..

4. Not on MPV degin, As the blast push upwards, Any door on sides can be fatal, Though OFB MPVs have roof top doors for quick exist, BMP have same degin as roof top hatches..


A regular APC is different from a MPV, But APC can swim not MPVs..

 

[bengalraider]

I see mahindra has also gone the TATA way and kept the rear drive shaft outside the V-hull. This both has a plus point and a negative pint on the positive side the shaft can be maintained far more easily and hence the running gear of the vehicleis not affected in normal operations, however if caught in a blast the shaft will most probably break immobilizing the vehicle till it is replaced, kinda dangerous for the indian scenario where naxals have a habit of blowing vehicles up and then attacking enmasse.

 

[SPIEZ]

I see mahindra has also gone the TATA way and kept the rear drive shaft outside the V-hull. This both has a plus point and a negative pint on the positive side the shaft can be maintained far more easily and hence the running gear of the vehicleis not affected in normal operations, however if caught in a blast the shaft will most probably break immobilizing the vehicle till it is replaced, kinda dangerous for the indian scenario where naxals have a habit of blowing vehicles up and then attacking enmasse.

I was also thinking the same thing

 

[Damian]

1. Stryker is a APC is not a MPV/APC, Nor stryker can survive a 20kg blast under wheel..

Basic Stryker maybe not, but new, let's call it "heavy" Stryker probably will be capabale to withstand such IED's.

2. BMP-2 APC can deflect 30mm AP rounds at frontal Armour even a RPG..

BMP-2 front armor is innefective against 25mm APFSDS (and probably also APDS), and is unabale to protect against RPG's without slat cage or ERA.

 

[K Factor]

No, Its Insas, Galil has no connection, But fal , AKM & FNC..

Galil and Insas are both derived from the FN FAL (Insas partly from AK47 as well). Hence the similarity.
Sorry for the OT post.

 

[K Factor]

2. BMP-2 APC can deflect 30mm AP rounds at frontal Armour even a RPG..

Not accurate IMHO.
The term RPG is an over-generalization. There are different kinds of RPGs. From the earliest RPG-7 to latest RPG 30 (which has a decoy warhead to counter Active Defense Systems and a tandem shaped charge warhead to defeat ERA).
Also, there are new warheads available for the primitive RPG-7 launchers. It is said that an RPG-7 can penetrate Abrams armor in its weak spot. So the argument of BMP-2 sustaining and absorbing direct hit from RPG-7 is difficult to believe.

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