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Lower generation jets hv lesser pre-post flight maintenance tasks, lead to higher sortie rate. But 6-8 might have compromised maintenance .
Initials sorties would be 3-4 per day for fighter bombers (Su-17, MiG-21, Su-25) and two for light bombers (Su-24) for first three days, then everyone drops back to 1.5 sorties/day (with all required maintenance). But during heavy requirements, forces only do priority and rapid overhauls for first day will give higher rate.

For rafale, it maintained 5 sorties per day during its missions over Syria with availability rate of more than 90%
Okay so you are factoring in maintenance times.

Actually I was reading 1965 and 1971 books,it said aircrafts carried out 6-8 sorties a day at the expense of extensive overhaul and maintenance.

Same for Israelis in 1967 and 1973.
 

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I deliberately left out space rockets especially CE7.5, but I should have mentioned it since it only underscores my point. We were under a technology denial regime, no one was willing to or going to supply us the engines or the tech. So even if we reverse engineered them, there would no "consequences" for us so to speak. Scientists got the go ahead because there were no alternatives.

Likewise for missiles.

Defence equipment is a different kettle of fish. When easy imports are available, no neta or babu will stick their neck out for reverse engineering. The gravy train is strong there and also defence equipment manufacturers are far more numerous and far more influential with their respective governments that space agencies.

It's not that we cannot reverse engineer, it's that our people will not be allowed to do so.
It may be kept secret, but reverse engineering is the way to go. Sanctions or no sanctions, research won't change. Ecen if reverse engineering is not done, extensive study will be done to learn about the equipment
 

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I really feel sorry for any IAF chief. its the most impossible military job in the world.
It seems like they are caught between an impossible vortex of competing forces that looks like a endless nightmarish black hole:

1) immature local aircraft industry eco system that is forcing the obsolete LCA upon the IAF
2) "make in India" policy hell, and all its endless time consuming ramifications with the lack of clarity and suitable Indian technology partners with the skills and experience to actually "make in India".
3) Lifelong Government MOD bureaucrats who are more interested in saving their careers and incapable of making quick decisions thereby requiring ministerial/cabinet level interventions causing years of delays.
4) Endless politicking by opposition parties on defense deals further slowing down badly needed acquisitions.
5) Over-reliance on the Russian technology with poor serviceability and obsolete avionics requiring IAF to get Israeli help with avionics.

The primary task of the IAF Chief is to make sure that he can defend his country and defeat an aggressor in the event of a war. Its not his job to make develop the local aircraft industry.

Given all the above its almost like mission impossible.
Sad but true and I would add...

6) Being blamed by the public for, for delays and failures of the development agencies and industry.

It took ADA years, to modify the weapon station from R73 to Python V and even now there are still issues with the launch of the weapon. But instead of blaming ADA, we blame IAF for asking for another missile, although it's simple replacement of outdated equipment.
Astra is delayed for years and was suppose to enter production this year, but we blame IAF for ordering only low numbers for tests.
Without ordering Pilatus PC7, IAF wouldn't have cadets or even trained pilots now, because HALs old basic trainer was phased out for unreliability and HTT40 was nowhere near to be available, but we blamed IAF for ordering a foreign trainer.

So yes, IAF is fighting a war on multiple fronts and being an Air Chief certainly is not an easy job.
 

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The Combined Graduation Parade of Pilots and Ground Duty Officers was held at Air Force Academy (AFA), Dundigal near Hyderabad. The event marked the momentous occasion of passing out of 105 Flight Cadets as Flying Officers of the Indian Air Force. These young officers, include two women Fighter Pilots out of total 15 women officers, to join the elite cadre of Air Force Officers
Admiral Sunil Lanba, Chief of the Naval Staff was the Chief Guest of the parade. As the Reviewing Officer of the parade, he conferred the ‘President’s Commission’ to the graduating Flight Cadets who successfully completed their basic and professional training. During the parade 14 officers of Indian Navy and Coast Guard were also awarded their ‘Flying Brevets’. IAF routinely trains members of other services and para-military forces in basic aviation and related courses at Air Force Academy, Dundigal.
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Yup, weight is near to 2 tons and pylon strengthen for upto 2.5ton.
Because it is already launched at 1 Mach it requires low time triggered booster which also drop down the fuel capacity because the most %age of fuel is used up in booster phase.
As far as I know, present BrahMos-A ALCM can be uprated for 600+ km range with 3 Mach speed will give a cutting edge over enemy having sophisticated AIR DEFENCE. anyways BrahMos-NG will have 3mach speed with max range of 300km and have weight nearly 1ton.

Nirbhay is subsonic hence is easier to shot down with AD missile but there is a plan for Nirbhay ALCM but can't be in the weight range to use it on LCA.
I guess firing weapons at super sonic speed is not available on Su30mki at current

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Any details of this? Some I know but it will be better if one can give details
In 1973 there was an offer from Germany to jointly develop the HF 24 into the Hindustan Supersonic Strike Aircraft labelled the HSS 73 later to be known as the HF-73. This would retain the original mainframe, with radical changes to the fuselage, air intakes and the centre wing section. The cockpit was to be modified for better visibility, fuel capacity increased, and with a completely new avionics suite and powered by the Rolls Royce RB 199-34R engine would have a radius of action double that of the HF 24. “Eventually, this project had to be abandoned because, as some said, of non clearance of the RB 199 by the UK and Germany, the two partner governments involved in the engine development for the Tornado MRCA programme. Thus all efforts in developing an Indian combat aircraft had come to naught.”

Subsequently HAL took on a feasibility study for a small multi role passenger aircraft, the HAC 33. “A wind tunnel model was built but not tested as development funds, were once again, not approved.”

In the mid-70s, the IAF showed interest in development of an air superiority fighter. In 1974 HAL undertook designing and studying a configuration for the Air Superiority Fighter (ASF). The ASF 300 was considered with either an Indian GTX or a SNECMA engine. The configuration proposed by HAL, “even though it did not meet the ASR, could have provided a reasonable solution…..”
https://marutfans.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/the-other-side-of-the-coin/
 

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In 1973 there was an offer from Germany to jointly develop the HF 24 into the Hindustan Supersonic Strike Aircraft labelled the HSS 73 later to be known as the HF-73. This would retain the original mainframe, with radical changes to the fuselage, air intakes and the centre wing section. The cockpit was to be modified for better visibility, fuel capacity increased, and with a completely new avionics suite and powered by the Rolls Royce RB 199-34R engine would have a radius of action double that of the HF 24. “Eventually, this project had to be abandoned because, as some said, of non clearance of the RB 199 by the UK and Germany, the two partner governments involved in the engine development for the Tornado MRCA programme. Thus all efforts in developing an Indian combat aircraft had come to naught.”

Subsequently HAL took on a feasibility study for a small multi role passenger aircraft, the HAC 33. “A wind tunnel model was built but not tested as development funds, were once again, not approved.”

In the mid-70s, the IAF showed interest in development of an air superiority fighter. In 1974 HAL undertook designing and studying a configuration for the Air Superiority Fighter (ASF). The ASF 300 was considered with either an Indian GTX or a SNECMA engine. The configuration proposed by HAL, “even though it did not meet the ASR, could have provided a reasonable solution…..”
https://marutfans.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/the-other-side-of-the-coin/
Sorry to say, but I know these, basically I want two main things
1) Picture of the sole prototype
2) Exact reasons behind ptoject faliure
 

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