India US Relations

[Hari Sud]

This isnt just Indians, even the Chinese punch below their weight in USA (though they punch a lot harder than Indians do because they are not as much liberandu as indians are). The reason being, we are mostly businessmen and STEM job workers, where we cannot threaten much, given that the blowback directly affects our jobs.
The muslim population has far bigger leeway, as they usually run corner stores, drive cabs and work construction- these jobs you don't have to worry about getting fired from if you engage in wrongthink.

The Indian community is fractured in the west, because you can basically draw two neat lines, around 2000 and 2014 to divide the community in three discrete categories.

Those who came pre-2000 ( my cohort) are complete simps for USA and they have swallowed the entire koolaid of western liberal order's supremacy and are the true house negroes of the west. Most of the ' mudi must rejine, Indian democracy is backsliding' and such anti-India western cooligiri is done by people of this cohort. This cohort is the real danger for India, as these guys will back US and western world order to the hilt and make any number of excuses for them and will also throw india under the bus.

Those that came pre 2014 are the middle ground ones - ones who do not hold 'western supremacy' as a given and aren't particularly trustful of murrican narratives but they are not interested in sticking their necks out very much but they act like 'silent majority' voters, who will make their presence felt in the polling booth.

Then you have the group that is post 2014 arrivals, who are the true patriots of India and will actually stick their necks out the most to defend India and criticise the west.

And sure enough, this three groups also have descending order of how much they stand to lose by challenging the western narrative, as the first cohort are now mostly 50+ and well established with a LOT to lose ( and also afraid of change as they are getting old), the middle cohort are young professionals who are not that powerful but also have less to lose and the last cohort has the least to lose.

Partially a good analysis. All what Indian communities has to do is to walk out of Democratic Party. Until then, they won’t listen.

 

[ovalpiston]

Fact is mostly trash emigrates more and more since late 90's, they are better of not being in India. American Indians are the worst when it comes to raising kids.....absolute zombies no good in any thing....they just follow shit careers like lawyers, avg doctors and avg everything....don't go into police or sports or anything else. So no individual traits of west are inculcated nor the heritage of being santhan is evident in them....uninteresting. Look at hindus in Singapore, Malayasia mostly Tamils.....they shine even if they stick to non glorious careers in maintaining tradition and also to a certain degree unity.

Disagree. There are plenty of Indian kids in every school district who participate in sports, they may not make it pro-leagues dominated by contact sports but they are active. Also, not sure what "shit careers" mean, Indian Americans have one of the highest household incomes in the country, and that is not a coincidence. Asians in general believe in family and community than individualism as practiced by westerners, don't see anything wrong in it.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Disagree. There are plenty of Indian kids in every school district who participate in sports, they may not make it pro-leagues dominated by contact sports but they are active. Also, not sure what "shit careers" mean, Indian Americans have one of the highest household incomes in the country, and that is not a coincidence. Asians in general believe in family and community than individualism as practiced by westerners, don't see anything wrong in it.

Lol, household income is what they chase.....no wonder pussy ass bitches that can't even put up resistance anywhere they go when attacked. West is land of opportunities that is different from Indian system where certain careers are just not in practical realm unless you have money or connections or background. But yet, they go to foreign lands and raise the kids to be more of the same.....no wonder they aren;'t a net multiplier. Inferior and embarassed about their roots best describes these Indian Americans and when they get into high positions, they do nothing and act against in most cases towards their roots. Your entire long post has no logical conclusion from your 2nd post and contracdictory.

 

[Cheran]

Hope image of US is not dented

Noticing Abhijit did not reach home after finishing his classwork on 11 March, his worried friends informed police and lodged a missing complaint. The police traced his mobile signals and recovered the dead body in a car in the nearby forest.

 

[Jimih]

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Hope image of US is not dented

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Noticing Abhijit did not reach home after finishing his classwork on 11 March, his worried friends informed police and lodged a missing complaint. The police traced his mobile signals and recovered the dead body in a car in the nearby forest.

Whether there were some series of cases a decade ago in US where Indians of Tamil origin were attacked or murdered?

Same pattern repeating.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Half of Indian americans are republicans.

I have always met many more Indians (northeast) were democrats even with good education and high paying jobs where they knew their taxes were going up if they won and they still would always vote Democrat?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Very few Republicans in the Indian community. You can count them on fingers. If there are any, they have given up much of their heritage and others which will identify you as Indian.

My father always voted Democrat I always voted Republican what you say is accurate to a point.
Like I said Indian community has a tendency to be sheepish what one sheep does everyone else follows. If you don’t follow you are frowned upon.

 

[Hari Sud]

The United States is unnecessarily souring its relations with India.

Currently, India finds itself amidst election fervor, providing fertile ground for Western media to scrutinize every aspect, whether positive or negative. Unfortunately, certain U.S. politicians are exploiting this opportunity to further exacerbate tensions. Criticism is levied at India's internal policy of denying citizenship to undocumented border crossers, akin to U.S. laws targeting illegal immigration, including the construction of a border wall with Mexico. However, if India were to implement similar measures, it would face substantial backlash internationally.

Recent events, such as an expanded investigation in the U.S. regarding allegations of Adani bribing Indian officials for contracts, underscore this trend of interference. The United States appears determined to perpetuate anti-India sentiment to tarnish India’s image.

Moreover, the questionable handling of the Pannu affair reveals a lack of credible evidence against an unnamed Indian individual. Conversely, demanding transparency regarding CIA/FBI activities and evidence would likely leave the U.S. authorities scrambling. The FBI's admission of manufacturing evidence in the Hunter Biden case further erodes trust in its integrity, particularly in sensitive political and international matters.

On the economic front, India's efforts to acquire American technology for manufacturing GE's fighter jet engines or procuring MQ-9 drones (although approved) face potential sabotage from the U.S. through bureaucratic or congressional impediments.

Considering the U.S.'s existing engagements, such as the conflict with Russia over Ukraine, where casualties have surpassed 200,000 without achieving political objectives, it is evident that the U.S. is heedless of the human toll. Similarly, tensions with China regarding Taiwan pose the risk of escalation into a physical confrontation. However, the consequences of such a conflict would predominantly impact China, with the U.S. facing some damage. Consequently, China is likely to resort to military posturing only rather than direct confrontation.

In summary, the U.S. appears to be engaging in confrontational behaviors with multiple nations, including India, while pursuing its geopolitical objectives, often at the expense of stability and international relations.

In the Middle East, the U.S. is not sure who to support. Here, the US influenced by Muslim lobby is supporting HAMAS/Palestinians against Israel, the latter is the victim in this current fight. Just to remind you, 1300 Israeli civilians were killed by Muslim insurgents (HAMAS) at home or while sleeping, and 230 were kidnapped. Punishment is overdue, but the US is supporting Muslims against the tiny country of Israel, which has been under pressure from Muslim Arabs in the last 70 years.

So what is wrong with the US policies? They are being influenced by the vote bank politics of the November elections. Supporting Muslim causes ensures that the ruling Democrats receive those votes. They do not care much about long-term damage.

It's time for a change in U.S. politics!

 

[Spindrift]

I have always met many more Indians (northeast) were democrats even with good education and high paying jobs where they knew their taxes were going up if they won and they still would always vote Democrat?

What about Indian Christians especially the protestants? How do they vote?

 

[ezsasa]

The United States is unnecessarily souring its relations with India.

Currently, India finds itself amidst election fervor, providing fertile ground for Western media to scrutinize every aspect, whether positive or negative. Unfortunately, certain U.S. politicians are exploiting this opportunity to further exacerbate tensions. Criticism is levied at India's internal policy of denying citizenship to undocumented border crossers, akin to U.S. laws targeting illegal immigration, including the construction of a border wall with Mexico. However, if India were to implement similar measures, it would face substantial backlash internationally.

Recent events, such as an expanded investigation in the U.S. regarding allegations of Adani bribing Indian officials for contracts, underscore this trend of interference. The United States appears determined to perpetuate anti-India sentiment to tarnish India’s image.

Moreover, the questionable handling of the Pannu affair reveals a lack of credible evidence against an unnamed Indian individual. Conversely, demanding transparency regarding CIA/FBI activities and evidence would likely leave the U.S. authorities scrambling. The FBI's admission of manufacturing evidence in the Hunter Biden case further erodes trust in its integrity, particularly in sensitive political and international matters.

On the economic front, India's efforts to acquire American technology for manufacturing GE's fighter jet engines or procuring MQ-9 drones (although approved) face potential sabotage from the U.S. through bureaucratic or congressional impediments.

Considering the U.S.'s existing engagements, such as the conflict with Russia over Ukraine, where casualties have surpassed 200,000 without achieving political objectives, it is evident that the U.S. is heedless of the human toll. Similarly, tensions with China regarding Taiwan pose the risk of escalation into a physical confrontation. However, the consequences of such a conflict would predominantly impact China, with the U.S. facing some damage. Consequently, China is likely to resort to military posturing only rather than direct confrontation.

In summary, the U.S. appears to be engaging in confrontational behaviors with multiple nations, including India, while pursuing its geopolitical objectives, often at the expense of stability and international relations.

In the Middle East, the U.S. is not sure who to support. Here, the US influenced by Muslim lobby is supporting HAMAS/Palestinians against Israel, the latter is the victim in this current fight. Just to remind you, 1300 Israeli civilians were killed by Muslim insurgents (HAMAS) at home or while sleeping, and 230 were kidnapped. Punishment is overdue, but the US is supporting Muslims against the tiny country of Israel, which has been under pressure from Muslim Arabs in the last 70 years.

So what is wrong with the US policies? They are being influenced by the vote bank politics of the November elections. Supporting Muslim causes ensures that the ruling Democrats receive those votes. They do not care much about long-term damage.

It's time for a change in U.S. politics!

narrow it down, any ideas on why NY going after India?
or is it the case that NY is where all of US's attack dogs are situated? as in not just India, all the targeting on behalf of U.S interests emanates out of NY.

 

[fooLIam]

narrow it down, any ideas on why NY going after India?
or is it the case that NY is where all of US's attack dogs are situated? as in not just India, all the targeting on behalf of U.S interests emanates out of NY.

Where does Soros is based upon and all their needling media and foundations .NY? considering the NY is also place where it’s prosecuters filing case against Donald and winning.
Soros is funding US prosecutors election all over USA.

 

[ezsasa]

Where does Soros is based upon and all their needling media and foundations .NY? considering the NY is also place where it’s prosecuters filing case against Donald and winning.
Soros is funding US prosecutors election all over USA.

seems to be the case..

pannu case was filed in southern district of NY
adani "investigation" happening in eastern district of NY
Hindenburg office located in NY
NewYork times located in NY
Vice News located in NY
AL Jazeera USA located in NY
Open Society foundation located in NY
Ford foundation located in NY
Rockefeller foundation located in NY

omidiyar network located in Washington
Gates foundation located in Seattle

Instead of broad basing the source of the attacks on India to entire U.S, we can narrow it down to NY.
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US probing Adani Group over potential bribery! The investigation, led by the US Attorney's Office for the Eastern Dist of NY& the Justice Dept’s fraud unit is probing whether an Adani entity linked to the company was involved in paying officials in India!

 

[Hari Sud]

narrow it down, any ideas on why NY going after India?
or is it the case that NY is where all of US's attack dogs are situated? as in not just India, all the targeting on behalf of U.S interests emanates out of NY.

All the US attack dogs are localized in New York.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

What about Indian Christians especially the protestants? How do they vote?

I really cannot breakdown by religion but Indians for the most part are liberal democrats

 

[omaebakabaka]

I really cannot breakdown by religion but Indians for the most part are liberal democrats

more like Cucked democrats (have no idea what democrat means)....some idiot came up with the most stupid political system while employing slaves and the world things its a sacred concept. Flat earth or earth centric solar system is more interesting to debate than this shiot

 

[prasadr14]

I really cannot breakdown by religion but Indians for the most part are liberal democrats

May be around 40%. few republicans and rest don't care.

many pretend to be Democrats because of work and for opportunities.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

May be around 40%. few republicans and rest don't care.

many pretend to be Democrats because of work and for opportunities.

Indians have always been ignorant when it comes to politics wherever they are in the world regardless of education or earning power. Indian cab and Indian doctor generally vote same way.

 

[prasadr14]

Indians have always been ignorant when it comes to politics wherever they are in the world regardless of education or earning power. Indian cab Sri are and Indian doctor generally vote same way.

I suspect it has to do with the fact we are not organized.
we have splintered identity as Indians.

muslims and christians of Indian origin don't identify themselves as Indians in US. Their whole political and social circle is very different.
That leaves indic religions and there is no organization that holds this group together. there is state wise and linguistic groups that do some get togethers now and then, thats about it.

Lastly, we loathe parting with our monies for political purposes.
There is no political fight happening without substantial monetary power backing it.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I suspect it has to do with the fact we are not organized.
we have splintered identity as Indians.

muslims and christians of Indian origin don't identify themselves as Indians in US. Their whole political and social circle is very different.
That leaves indic religions and there is no organization that holds this group together. there is state wise and linguistic groups that do some get togethers now and then, thats about it.

Lastly, we loathe parting with our monies for political purposes.
There is no political fight happening without substantial monetary power backing it.

How much can you expect from a people that let congress party rule for decades without realizing the destruction they caused?

 

[omaebakabaka]

How much can you expect from a people that let congress party rule for decades without realizing the destruction they caused?

Now you are talking....one look at your own families and stats come pretty accurate to your intution....although I am not sure anymore as we got decrowned by the new west.

Some champ was bleating and point to studies in other thread about malnutrition and what not....it must be their burgers and high nutrition that caused their brains to go dead dumb. IQ is not about inventing, its about keeping your survival intact and being human or animals, keep your offsprings and their extensions to wider culture and country survive and preserve.