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All are brown sepoys.

Why do you keep saying things which will not happen instead it is us who are always under attack despite that GOI have not tried to develop and streamline its information and narrative building capabilities.
There must be urgency in industrialisation of this country so as to we do not find ourself in these kind of situations again and again as sitting duck while other party keep throwing mud(narrative war).
Then why the fuck did the babus link our defense production of aircrafts to a US engine??? instead of fully supporting the kaveri program???!!!!!!
 

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To all those US supporters this is why we need Russia to win!!!! Because if Russia loses, US will completely dominate the show and Indian bureaucrats and politicians are too spineless to stand up to the US or even develop the basic necessities to avoid India being dependent on US for anything.

For India to thrive, there needs to be a bipolar world where at least one of the two powers is friendly to India and it ain't US.
 

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Then why the fuck did the babus link our defense production of aircrafts to a US engine??? instead of fully supporting the kaveri program???!!!!!!
Do not know why they did it.
Functioning of Indian bureaucracy never made sense to me if some thing does not make sense than only answer is corruption,selfishness etc that s why GOI need to trim bureaucracy and invest in small but highly motivated,competent and patriotic bureaucracy. Learn from china ,Korea and Japan.
 

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India and Oman exploring Rupee trade between the two countries, utilising UPI stack in Oman’s digital economy: Foreign Secretary

India and Oman are key partners in maritime security in the Western Indian Ocean, reflecting the depth of their cooperation.

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"How dare you"
 

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India and Oman exploring Rupee trade between the two countries, utilising UPI stack in Oman’s digital economy: Foreign Secretary

India and Oman are key partners in maritime security in the Western Indian Ocean, reflecting the depth of their cooperation.

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"How dare you"
India Russia crude oil trade settled in INR for now.

China - Russia crude oil & bilateral trade settled in Yuan.

That takes care of nearly 10% of all petro dollar backed global crude oil imports imo excluding Indian petroleum exports.

No wonder Qatar is playing a willing accomplice to needle India on various issues including the recent espionage case by ex IN navy men.
 

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EU recently started negotiations with Ukraine on EU membership.

If it progresses well, wrath of the white man could bring sanctions on Indian entities by General Elections 2024.
 

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EU recently started negotiations with Ukraine on EU membership.

If it progresses well, wrath of the white man could bring sanctions on Indian entities by General Elections 2024.
That just might be the best thing to happen to India.

Just block the Anglo missionaries into India forever and it;s game over for them.
The white man knows times are different and the blow back from India, while it might not hurt US, will screw the rest of them.
 

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India Russia crude oil trade settled in INR for now.

China - Russia crude oil & bilateral trade settled in Yuan.

That takes care of nearly 10% of all petro dollar backed global crude oil imports imo excluding Indian petroleum exports.

No wonder Qatar is playing a willing accomplice to needle India on various issues including the recent espionage case by ex IN navy men.
There was an adhaar leak recently. Very big. Was posted in this forum as well.

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Digital democratization has been a major key point of India under Modi.

"Move against dollar" (White phrase) aka "democratization of financial systems" (our phrase) will have repercussions.

Hope all relevant departments are ready.
 

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EU recently started negotiations with Ukraine on EU membership.

If it progresses well, wrath of the white man could bring sanctions on Indian entities by General Elections 2024.
Not feasible for them. Europe has effectively de-industrialized itself. Many large European economies like Germany are reporting negative growth, and the downtrend is likely to continue. They need more business, not less.

While putting sanctions against Russia, the EU politicians and general public thought that they would bring a small economy comparable to Italy down to it's knee in no time. See what happened. They ended up sanctioning themselves, with no way out of this disaster.
 

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Not feasible for them. Europe has effectively de-industrialized itself. Many large European economies like Germany are reporting negative growth, and the downtrend is likely to continue. They need more business, not less.

While putting sanctions against Russia, the EU politicians and general public thought that they would bring a small economy comparable to Italy down to it's knee in no time. See what happened. They ended up sanctioning themselves, with no way out of this disaster.
We have generally buckled under threat of sanctions in the past. Giving up on Iran crude oil is an example.

They may punish an entity or two to make an example out of us but I don't see it affecting ties beyond token bitchy tit-for-tat behavior.

Aside, we have enough dirt on them to keep embarrassing them for years to come at every platform of any value.
 

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EU recently started negotiations with Ukraine on EU membership.

If it progresses well, wrath of the white man could bring sanctions on Indian entities by General Elections 2024.
Fat chance of that happening. Hungary does not want Ukraine in. And neither do some countries.
 

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We have generally buckled under threat of sanctions in the past. Giving up on Iran crude oil is an example.

They may punish an entity or two to make an example out of us but I don't see it affecting ties beyond token bitchy tit-for-tat behavior.

Aside, we have enough dirt on them to keep embarrassing them for years to come at every platform of any value.
There was not much to gain "geopolitically" from siding with Iran in it's quarrel with the west. In fact, a nuclear Iran is not in India's interests. Hence, our geopolitical interests coincide more with the west in this case.

We did hold our ground on Russia.
 

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There was not much to gain "geopolitically" from siding with Iran in it's quarrel with the west. In fact, a nuclear Iran is not in India's interests. Hence, our geopolitical interests coincide more with the west in this case.

We did hold our ground on Russia.
There was cheap oil to gain, almost a barter trade for Indian importers where the payment mechanism was tilted heavily in our favor(Rupee-Rial) while Iran seldom complained about it. It was a win-win for India and provided us a foothold in the region through the Chabahar port.

Yielding to West's unreasonable demands on Russia would've left us in a very perilous position. Needs no elaboration.

OTOH, angering the West could mean fewer H1B visas and sundry other road blocks and hindrances for our IT consulting companies.
 

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There was cheap oil to gain, almost a barter trade for Indian importers where the payment mechanism was tilted heavily in our favor(Rupee-Rial) while Iran seldom complained about it. It was a win-win for India and provided us a foothold in the region through the Chabahar port.

Yielding to West's unreasonable demands on Russia would've left us in a very perilous position. Needs no elaboration.

OTOH, angering the West could mean fewer H1B visas and sundry other road blocks and hindrances for our IT consulting companies.
Off course Iran won't complain, everyone loves money. But, cheap oil at what cost? Another Islamic Nuke to watch out for in the neighborhood? We are smart enough to not take that deal.

They "hire" our IT consultants to keep their business running with a profit. Apple for example, doesn't do China or India any favor, it's western customers simply cannot afford the "Made in USA" gadgets.

India's IT services no longer have critical dependency on the west, that umbilical cord was cut back in 2008. Most of the big US IT companies which maintain large offices in India also run their businesses in India.

India may respond to any "roadblock" by booting out the likes of Amazon, Facebook, Twitter for starters.
 

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Off course Iran won't complain, everyone loves money. But, cheap oil at what cost? Another Islamic Nuke to watch out for in the neighborhood? We are smart enough to not take that deal.

They "hire" our IT consultants to keep their business running with a profit. Apple for example, doesn't do China or India any favor, it's western customers simply cannot afford the "Made in USA" gadgets.

India's IT services no longer have critical dependency on the west, that umbilical cord was cut back in 2008. Most of the big US IT companies which maintain large offices in India also run their businesses in India.

India may respond to any "roadblock" by booting out the likes of Amazon, Facebook, Twitter for starters.
Iran's nuke program will chug along with help from Russia & China. US-EU sanctions couldn't cap it.

The developments post Trump's sanctions shows there's no stopping them.


December 2020 report

In December 2020, the IAEA reported that Tehran "holds more than 12 times the amount of enriched uranium" permitted under the JCPOA, and that "work has also begun on the construction of new underground facilities close to Natanz, its main enrichment facility".[224]

2021

Until 2021, Iran consistently asserted that its nuclear program was solely for peaceful purposes, reinforced by a fatwa issued by Ayatollah Khamenei against the development of nuclear weapons. But in an interview in November 2021, on the anniversary of the assassination of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, former head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran Fereydoun Abbasi-Davani mentioned the country's growth "involving satellites, missiles, and nuclear weapons" and said that although Iran's stance on nuclear weapons being haram was quite clear, Fakhrizadeh had "created this system."[17][224]

October 2023 report

As of 2023, the IAEA stated in an October quarterly report that Iran is estimated to have further increased its uranium stockpile twenty-two times over the 2015 agreed JCPOA limit. The IAEA also noted that Iran has continued to push back against inspections of its nuclear program and several inspectors had been barred by Iran, a move that received condemnation by the agency.[225]
 

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India seriously should consider these options:

1)Tax 30-50% of Foreign Funds to NGOs or ban them.

2)Cut ALL defence ties with Canada.

3)Get out of UK-Common Wealth Group.

4)Parity in Diplomats with UK & US.
 

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Iran's nuke program will chug along with help from Russia & China. US-EU sanctions couldn't cap it.

The developments post Trump's sanctions shows there's no stopping them.


December 2020 report

In December 2020, the IAEA reported that Tehran "holds more than 12 times the amount of enriched uranium" permitted under the JCPOA, and that "work has also begun on the construction of new underground facilities close to Natanz, its main enrichment facility".[224]

2021

Until 2021, Iran consistently asserted that its nuclear program was solely for peaceful purposes, reinforced by a fatwa issued by Ayatollah Khamenei against the development of nuclear weapons. But in an interview in November 2021, on the anniversary of the assassination of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, former head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran Fereydoun Abbasi-Davani mentioned the country's growth "involving satellites, missiles, and nuclear weapons" and said that although Iran's stance on nuclear weapons being haram was quite clear, Fakhrizadeh had "created this system."[17][224]

October 2023 report

As of 2023, the IAEA stated in an October quarterly report that Iran is estimated to have further increased its uranium stockpile twenty-two times over the 2015 agreed JCPOA limit. The IAEA also noted that Iran has continued to push back against inspections of its nuclear program and several inspectors had been barred by Iran, a move that received condemnation by the agency.[225]
We should just surrender to our fate, shouldn't we?

India seriously should consider these options:

1)Tax 30-50% of Foreign Funds to NGOs or ban them.

2)Cut ALL defence ties with Canada.

3)Get out of UK-Common Wealth Group.

4)Parity in Diplomats with UK & US.
We must play our cards only when they can deliver the "maximum impact" or they become absolutely essential.
 

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India seriously should consider these options:

1)Tax 30-50% of Foreign Funds to NGOs or ban them.

2)Cut ALL defence ties with Canada.

3)Get out of UK-Common Wealth Group.

4)Parity in Diplomats with UK & US.
this is called an over reaction, especially when these kind of moves only makes India’s adversaries and ill wishers happy.

especially when empty space movement is paki sponsored in the first place.
 

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