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Joe Biden US Vice president said yesterday "US can be India's best friend" NOTE: "Can Be" So, What can turn this "can" ..into ."is"....India's commitment to contain China and support US bullying in south China sea?
India must not take the bait...US best friendship deal is not worth being enemy of China. If US does not intend to use India against China...then, Its OK to have closer relationship.
If India starts behaving like Paki...then, India stops being India.....Strategic autonomy and independent foreign policy is the only right way.
By the way, this "can be best friend" thing is in response to Mr Modi's last years assertion that "Every child in India knows that Russia is India's best friend.?
 

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India, US moving into 2016 with ambitious agenda: US envoy

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...6-with-ambitious-agenda-us-envoy_1840012.html

Washington: Describing 2015 as a transformative year in US-India relations, US Ambassador to India Richard Verma has said they are moving into 2016 with optimism and an ambitious agenda for the future.

"While we are proud of our accomplishments, we know there is much more we can do together," he said in a year-end review of India-US relations.

"Building upon decades of hard work between our two nations -- and millions of people to people ties -- we have had a transformative year in US-India relations, further broadening and deepening our partnership in so many areas," Verma said.

"It was also a year of firsts and many high points," said the first US envoy of Indian descent in New Delhi.

Barack Obama was the first US president to be the chief guest for India's Republic Day ceremonies in January, noted Verma listing several other firsts.

These included establishing secure lines between Obama and Prime Minister Narendra Modi and their National Security Advisors "so that important, time sensitive issues could be tackled directly by our leaders".

The two sides also "held the first-ever Strategic and Commercial Dialogue, merging our commercial and strategic issues to help power the growth of both of our countries".

Noting that India and the US had "moved beyond a buyer/seller relationship in our defence relationship to one of joint production and co-development", Verma said: "We elevated our strategic partnership to 'strategic plus'."

This signified "that we work together at a much higher level, in more places, and on more different subjects", he said.

The two countries exceeded all previous records in two-way trade and foreign direct investments, totalling over $102 billion, Verma said. Indian companies invested some $11 billion in the US, while US investments in India topped $28 billion.

A new Innovation Forum was created to build upon Modi's successful visit to Silicon Valley, and help leverage the use of technology in a wide range of areas, including building new smart cities and modern infrastructure.

On the climate and clean energy front, the US and India played a leadership role in constructing and finalising a historic agreement to combat climate change, Verma said.

"As we move into 2016, we do so with optimism and an ambitious agenda for the future," Verma said. "While we are proud of our accomplishments, we know there is much more we can do together."
 

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US Says Making Progress in Aircraft Carrier Collaboration with India

NEW DELHI: India and the United States are making progress in talks on the joint development of an aircraft carrier for India, the top US navy admiral said on Wednesday, potentially the biggest military collaboration between them.

The two countries agreed to work together on aircraft carrier technology as well as jet engines during US President Barack Obama's visit to India last year in a strengthening of ties to balance China's expanding military power in the region.

The visiting chief of US Naval Operations, John Richardson, said the two sides had held talks on a range of issues relating to the next generation Indian carrier from its design to construction.
A high-level US-India joint working group is due to meet in New Delhi later this month, part of a series of meetings aimed at establishing broader cooperation on the design, development and production of the proposed Indian carrier.


The General Electric/Rolls-Royce F136 Advanced Turbofan Engine for the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Stealth Fighter. The two companies stopped work on the project in December 2011 after failing to gather Pentagon's support. The engine may well see a revival in its fortunes in the planned Joint Indo-US Engine development program

"We are making very good progress, I am very pleased with the progress to date and optimistic we can do more in the future. That's on a very solid track," Richardson told reporters in New Delhi.
India inducted an old aircraft carrier from Russia in 2014 while an ageing British vessel is set to retire this year. It is building an indigenous carrier that is expected to enter service in 2018-2019. But the navy also plans a third, its biggest carrier yet, for which it has sought US assistance, especially state-of-the-art technology to launch aircraft.

Richardson said the electromagnetic launch technology that enabled a navy to fly heavier planes from a carrier was part of the discussions with India.

"All of those things are on the table, there are possibilities, its a matter of pacing, it's very new technology for us," he said.


China has one aircraft carrier and announced last month it is building another. The Pentagon said in a report last year that China could build multiple aircraft carriers over the next 15 years.
India's navy, which has long considered the Indian Ocean its area of influence, has been unnerved by Chinese naval forays in the region and its efforts to build port infrastructure in countries stretching from Pakistan to Djibouti on the African coast.

After years of neglect, the Indian government has approved the navy's plans for a dozen new submarines, six of them nuclear-powered. More than 40 warships are under construction.
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U.S. Defence Secretary coming to India in April

Ashton Carter's impending visit comes as focused efforts are on to make progress in concluding the 3 outstanding defence pacts between the two countries.
U.S. Defence Secretary Ashton Carter will be visiting India in April and focused efforts are under way to make progress in concluding the three outstanding defence agreements between the two countries, sources have told The Hindu.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had said during his visit to Washington in December 2015 that India was “in principle” agreeable to these pacts but some more clarity was required from the U.S. side. Both Indian and American officials had then said that progress could be expected in 2016.

Will follow Modi’s visit

Mr. Carter will be travelling to India within weeks after Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to the U.S. on March 31 and April 1, to attend the nuclear security summit.

Mr. Carter’s visit to India will take place against the backdrop of continuing tensions in the South China Sea. India and the U.S. had in January 2015 announced a joint strategic vision for the Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean Region. U.S. continues to accuse China of “militarising” the region.

Needling by North Korea

The recent North Korean nuclear adventurism has prompted U.S. allies such as South Korea and Japan to seek higher U.S. presence in the region. The U.S. had repeatedly said in recent weeks that it would not hesitate to intervene to ensure the security of its Asian partners and now China has accused the U.S of militarising the region.

America has not specified what it expects India to do in East Asia, pointed out Richard M. Rossow, Wadhwani Chair in U.S. India Policy Studies at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington D.C. “The recent rumor of a joint patrol in the South China Sea certainly raised interest among the strategic community, though realistically it seems unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future,” he said.

‘Foundational agreements’

Termed ‘foundational agreements,’ the Communications and Information Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA), Logistics Support Agreement (LSA) and Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement (BECA) for geospatial intelligence have been pending for at least a decade now and will be the focus during Mr. Carter’s visit.

The U.S. has signed these agreements with most of its strategic partners. Dominant sections within the political and strategic community in India have argued that signing of these agreements will lock the country in an irreversible embrace with the U.S. India and the U.S. have already signed one foundational agreement -- General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA).


Time to move forward on pacts

Indian sources told The Hindu that there is increasing acceptance within the military and strategic community that it is time to move forward on these agreements. “For India-U.S. defence cooperation to be effective and optimal, these agreements can be of great help,” one said.

“The political resistance from the Left that stopped these agreements in 2006 is not relevant now. Also arguments against these agreements have weakened as India-U.S. defence cooperation has grown by leaps and bounds in the last ten years. The time is just ripe to move forward,” Mr. Rossow said.

‘Parrikar deflects it to MEA’

Mr. Rossow, however, feels that Mr. Parrikar has not sufficiently pulled his weight in favour of the foundational agreements and cooperation with the U.S. in general according. “For the most part, when the strategic community tries to do something, he tends to deflect it to the MEA” he said.
 

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‘Foundational agreements’

Termed ‘foundational agreements,’ the Communications and Information Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA), Logistics Support Agreement (LSA) and Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement (BECA) for geospatial intelligence have been pending for at least a decade now and will be the focus during Mr. Carter’s visit.

The U.S. has signed these agreements with most of its strategic partners. Dominant sections within the political and strategic community in India have argued that signing of these agreements will lock the country in an irreversible embrace with the U.S. India and the U.S. have already signed one foundational agreement -- General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA).
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Resolution Introduced to Bring India on Par with NATO Allies


WASHINGTON: A Congressional resolution aiming to bring India on par with America's NATO allies in terms of trade and technology transfer besides elevating its status in export of defense articles from the US has been introduced ahead of Defense Secretary Ashton Carter's visit to India.

Introduced by Congressman George Holding, Co-Chair of the House India Caucus, the US-India Defense Technology and Partnership Act (HR 4825) proposes to amends the Arms Export Control Action so as to formalise India's status for the purpose of congressional notifications as a major partner of equal status as America's treaty allies and closest partners.

"This legislation will cement the process that has already been made and will lay a foundation for future cooperation and growth," Holding told the US House of Representatives.

"This legislation will elevate India's status by shortening the time required for the notification of sale or export of defense articles from the United States to India. It will encourage more joint contingency planning and require the US government review and assess India's ability to execute military operations of mutual interest," Holding said.

Welcoming the resolution, introduced ahead of US Defense Secretary Carter's visit to India early next month, the US India Business Council (USIBC) said that it sent an important signal to the Indian defense establishment that today's political conditions are different from the past.

"This bill not only puts India on par with other NATO allies in terms of the notification period, it sends a clear signal to Washington and Delhi that defence cooperation should be a top priority for both governments," Holding said.

Defence trade between the US and India is one of the strongest areas of the bilateral economic relationship and has risen from some USD 300 million to over USD 14 billion over the last 10 years, said Mukesh Aghi, USIBC president.

Noting that together the US and India face a range of shared security challenges, Holding underlined the need to encourage deeper bilateral defense ties and closer cooperation.

"The US-India Defense Technology and Partnership Act will build upon the recent progress made to strengthen our strategic partnership by facilitating closer collaboration, promoting greater defense trade, and by elevating India's status," he said.

In his remarks, Holding also questioned the decision of the Obama Administration to sell F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan.

"What, I ask, is the benefit of the sale to our national security and the security of the region and our partners? This is one question, but the request to use taxpayer dollars to finance the sale of these F-16s to Pakistan is entirely another question," he asked.

"What has Pakistan actually done to deserve these fighter jets let alone financing from the United States taxpayers? Certainly not enough, in my view, as I firmly oppose the sale from start to finish," Holding said.

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@Illusive @Gessler @bengalraider @Chinmoy @Superdefender @amoy
India will take at least 15-20 years to get in the league where US, Russia and China are today.
But what must be India's stance after that on alignment. Getting aligned to NATO, strengthening RIC or remaining neutral.
What are your views? o_O
 

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India will take at least 15-20 years to get in the league where US, Russia and China are today.
But what must be India's stance after that on alignment. Getting aligned to NATO, strengthening RIC or remaining neutral.
What are your views? o_O
I had said before co operation with US will be good for India when it comes to Defence production, we already have a close relation with Israel in terms of JV which have produced state of the art Barack 8. We can extend this co operation with US as well which will decrease production cost and also deliver some amazing tech.

About weather India should be neutral, India will always have to balance it ties. One way of doing it investments. Invest in countries that are looking for investments and build goodwill, provide good returns to those who invest in India with good policies. China has been doing that, ' delivering'.

Ultimately it depends upon your power projection, build up your economy for that.

The presidential elections of US will be crucial for India to charter a roadmap for the next 10 years.

In China's case we know its Xi and he is pretty aggressive, already we have seen Nepal looking towards China, SCS and support to pak. Trying to win China in our favour doesn't work. They are rising they know they can win with sheer finance they posses. If they don't care about India's concern vis a vis its security, its about time we give them something to be concerned of.
 

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In all of this though, if Europe can remain united and fructify their goal of a USE, with Russia economic trouble, they know their relation with China would be 1 sided in the future. We can see Russia trying to get closer to this united europe which will be very interesting.
 

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We need Trump to win if we need to have a partnership of equals
 

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@Indx TechStyle, after 10-15 yrs, India should still remain lone power. Non-alignment is our power. If we get into a particular group, other players will see us in different angle. We should engage with all and extract the best as possible. For e.g., Iran and Israel are enemies from birth. Still India upgraded its relation with both of them in equal terms; both of them are not complaining. We can get fuel from Iran & tech. from Israel. But inclination to only one will give wrong message to other.
 

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@Illusive @Gessler @bengalraider @Chinmoy @Superdefender @amoy
India will take at least 15-20 years to get in the league where US, Russia and China are today.
But what must be India's stance after that on alignment. Getting aligned to NATO, strengthening RIC or remaining neutral.
What are your views? o_O
There are two facets to your Answer
1)Economic Strength
Firstly out of the three Nations you mentioned we are already leagues ahead of Russia, We are not going to close the Gap with China or the U.S before the end of the next three decades.I feel India shall be a pole to herself once we cross 20$ Trillion PPP GDP sometime in the late 2020's. India should in the interim work to build a true South Asian Free Trade Union with or without Pakistan.I would also support closer infrastructural links including railway lines between India and China to economically integrate both economies further.
2)Military Strength
India has just begun a program of Military modernization which will only increase as GDP increases bring more money into our coffers. The Make in India Programme and indeginzation program will see our military getting closer to Russia,Israel and The Americans while remaining distant from China. China for it's part will also continue to engage India economically while militarily it shall continue to be threat by getting more toeholds in Pakistan and the IOR.Our Defence stance will undoubtedly reflect the same as well. I see an India Militarily balanced between Russia and the Americans but maintaining it's current Cold warish stand vis a vis the Chinese.
 

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Resolution Introduced to Bring India on Par with NATO Allies


WASHINGTON: A Congressional resolution aiming to bring India on par with America's NATO allies in terms of trade and technology transfer besides elevating its status in export of defense articles from the US has been introduced ahead of Defense Secretary Ashton Carter's visit to India.

Introduced by Congressman George Holding, Co-Chair of the House India Caucus, the US-India Defense Technology and Partnership Act (HR 4825) proposes to amends the Arms Export Control Action so as to formalise India's status for the purpose of congressional notifications as a major partner of equal status as America's treaty allies and closest partners.

"This legislation will cement the process that has already been made and will lay a foundation for future cooperation and growth," Holding told the US House of Representatives.

"This legislation will elevate India's status by shortening the time required for the notification of sale or export of defense articles from the United States to India. It will encourage more joint contingency planning and require the US government review and assess India's ability to execute military operations of mutual interest," Holding said.

Welcoming the resolution, introduced ahead of US Defense Secretary Carter's visit to India early next month, the US India Business Council (USIBC) said that it sent an important signal to the Indian defense establishment that today's political conditions are different from the past.

"This bill not only puts India on par with other NATO allies in terms of the notification period, it sends a clear signal to Washington and Delhi that defence cooperation should be a top priority for both governments," Holding said.

Defence trade between the US and India is one of the strongest areas of the bilateral economic relationship and has risen from some USD 300 million to over USD 14 billion over the last 10 years, said Mukesh Aghi, USIBC president.

Noting that together the US and India face a range of shared security challenges, Holding underlined the need to encourage deeper bilateral defense ties and closer cooperation.

"The US-India Defense Technology and Partnership Act will build upon the recent progress made to strengthen our strategic partnership by facilitating closer collaboration, promoting greater defense trade, and by elevating India's status," he said.

In his remarks, Holding also questioned the decision of the Obama Administration to sell F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan.

"What, I ask, is the benefit of the sale to our national security and the security of the region and our partners? This is one question, but the request to use taxpayer dollars to finance the sale of these F-16s to Pakistan is entirely another question," he asked.

"What has Pakistan actually done to deserve these fighter jets let alone financing from the United States taxpayers? Certainly not enough, in my view, as I firmly oppose the sale from start to finish," Holding said.

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@Illusive @Gessler @bengalraider @Chinmoy @Superdefender @amoy
India will take at least 15-20 years to get in the league where US, Russia and China are today.
But what must be India's stance after that on alignment. Getting aligned to NATO, strengthening RIC or remaining neutral.
What are your views? o_O
I would agree with @Superdefender here. Non alignment, started by Pt Nehru (something good which he did) did good to us if you compare the current India and Pakistan. But again we were not completely non aligned. We had increased our proximity toward USSR at that time although we did tried to maintain cordial relationship with US too in the field of Education.
Now @bengalraider raised very good point. It does have two facet, economic and strategic. You have to take into consideration, what region you belong to and who are your immediate neighbours. China and Russia as of now are on the same league and you cant ignore them, neither on terms of economy nor in terms of strategy. So here India would have to look into its interest. It can't shrug off Russia for US or NATO nor it would be beneficial to give cold shoulder to US.
 

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IMO, India must not reach at such close relationship with US and just hang around for next 15-20 years till we get in the same league of US, Russia and China.
US-EU alliance and Russia China partnership has made this world bipolar.
We must create a third pole of power.
 

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IMO, India must not reach at such close relationship with US and just hang around for next 15-20 years till we get in the same league of US, Russia and China.
US-EU alliance and Russia China partnership has made this world bipolar.
We must create a third pole of power.
It is easier said then done. Lets look at history. India did initiated Non-alignment movement along with Indonesia, Yugoslavia, Ghana and Egypt and look where these countries are today. You have to be selfish here and look into your benefits. US-NATO could provide you with immense economical opportunity whereas US-Russia could provide you with strategic and defence strength. Moreover the biggest strength of India is its human power. You have to tap on it and try to beat the others in securing key positions across the globe. In presence of Russia and China thinking and talking about a third front is not practical as of now. You have to adapt a middle way and try to milk out benefit from these poles.
 

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It is easier said then done. Lets look at history. India did initiated Non-alignment movement along with Indonesia, Yugoslavia, Ghana and Egypt and look where these countries are today. You have to be selfish here and look into your benefits. US-NATO could provide you with immense economical opportunity whereas US-Russia could provide you with strategic and defence strength. Moreover the biggest strength of India is its human power. You have to tap on it and try to beat the others in securing key positions across the globe. In presence of Russia and China thinking and talking about a third front is not practical as of now. You have to adapt a middle way and try to milk out benefit from these poles.
Let's brief current superpowers.
USA
EU
Russia
China
Russia and China made SCO and US-EU made NATO, creating two poles.
India will reach at level of these countries in 2025-30.
Which club we must join then? What do you think?
We must make coalition with NATO or
We must join SCO or we must nulify SCO by strengthening RIC(Russia China India) alliance?
 

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