India US Relations

[Master Chief]

don't remember any such news.

There was a small scale arson attack by Khalistanis on San Francisco consulate.. No one was arrested, and India even released a "Wanted List" of thr American Khalistani suspects

Indian consulate in San Francisco vandalised by Khalistan supporters; US reacts

Pro-Khalistan radicals set the Indian consulate in San Francisco on fire, but the damage was limited and no staffers were injured. Indian diplomats in Canada are also facing threats ahead of a Khalistan rally. The US has condemned the vandalism and attempted arson.

www.google.com

 

[HitmanBlood]

US China mending ties and now US mending ties with Pakistan as well.

Democrats are reinstating old Kissinger era policy back after brief disruption from outsider Trump. This policy made somewhat sense back in 1970s but in 2023 it is suicidal, because threat from Commie CCP and Islamist extremists is increasing with each passing day.

The question is why US deep state is going against interests of America by doing this? Personally I think corruption/lobbying has become so out of control in American system that they are selling their country's intrest to the highest bidder.

Even if RINO republicans win election in US it will not change anything and chances for another outsider like Trump in US is almost none. We in India should prepare ourselves for a rough treatment because India was always regarded as a problem child in old Kissinger era policy.

My intuition says that these type of mood swings of US will benifit India in long run as it did in past. Not having a powerful friend and getting cornered from all sides actually makes a country stronger and more self-reliant IMO.

I strongly believe we should reduce our dependency on American software and online services as much as possible. This is very underrated part of Atmanirbharta yet in modern era it is most important as well. We already have a pretty strong IT knowledge pool. A simple nudge from gov is needed to move things in right direction.

 

[AnantS]

US China mending ties and now US mending ties with Pakistan as well.

Democrats are reinstating old Kissinger era policy back after brief disruption from outsider Trump. This policy made somewhat sense back in 1970s but in 2023 it is suicidal, because threat from Commie CCP and Islamist extremists is increasing with each passing day.

The question is why US deep state is going against interests of America by doing this? Personally I think corruption/lobbying has become so out of control in American system that they are selling their country's intrest to the highest bidder.

Even if RINO republicans win election in US it will not change anything and chances for another outsider like Trump in US is almost none. We in India should prepare ourselves for a rough treatment because India was always regarded as a problem child in old Kissinger era policy.

My intuition says that these type of mood swings of US will benifit India in long run as it did in past. Not having a powerful friend and getting cornered from all sides actually makes a country stronger and more self-reliant IMO.

I strongly believe we should reduce our dependency on American software and online services as much as possible. This is very underrated part of Atmanirbharta yet in modern era it is most important as well. We already have a pretty strong IT knowledge pool. A simple nudge from gov is needed to move things in right direction.

Thats why I said in reply to @ezsasa in previous post:

Oh its not new. This is,fav ploy to term someone authoritarian. In last decade we have Putin and SA Prince accused of same. You know which kowed which did not. What I see is India is imagining a Maryada Rekha in bilateral relations but US sees none in current admin - strikes below belt every time. Republicans dont seem they will come to power now under trump who could at fag end-course corrected dive in relationship. But it seems Democrats want to live end of cold war hey days at any cost. Whether that is feasible dream - who knows?

 

[Indrajit]

Sanjeev Sanyal comment in an interview - " Mera kutta kutta, tumhara kutta pannu ?"

Also draws an interesting parallel with the outrage on antisemitism against jews in the recent congressional hearings with heads of Harvard, MIT etc...and points out that threats sgainst Hindus remain unquestioned

Brief part of the interview - from 57:20 onwards

 

[Butter Chicken]

CIA and Church role

 

[spacemarine2023]

I posted long back, start taking out some gora CIA psychopaths in Asia, only way to show them you gonna hit us we gonna hit you.
This is the only way to keep these lunatics in check, arrest missionaries coming from US for soul harvesting. Let the fckrs write some more articles

 

[Master Chief]

Looks like Vlad might be the chief guest for Republic Day Celebrations..

 

[hurrians]

"America enjoys a virtual monopoly in key sectors - social media, e-commerce, financial technology and more - in the rapidly growing Indian economy, which is projected to surpass Japan and Germany by 2030."

A good snippet from the entire propaganda article, anyway chicomese employing a brown coolie , maybe a mao fan .

Is the India-US honeymoon coming to an end soon? - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

 

[Master Chief]

BBC parroting US UK government policy of Israeli right to kill anyone in its way.. But, imagine what BBC would say if it was India doing the killings instead of Israel.

 

[Indrajit]

Why India Must Call US Bluff on Pannun - News18

The Pannun case is a warning shot across India’s bow: India’s rise is good for the world but it should be on the West’s terms

www.news18.com

 

[DingDong]

BBC parroting US UK government policy of Israeli right to kill anyone in its way.. But, imagine what BBC would say if it was India doing the killings instead of Israel.

Their propaganda doesn't seem very effective now that we have got the Social Media. At least from the Indian perspective, the Indian RW ecosystem has established a numerical superiority, sufficient to drown their voices.

BTW, the US media and government have gone silent on this Pannun issue, and so have the Khalistanis since the past 24 hours.

 

[Hari Sud]

India will be on Trial in a New York Court.

Nikhil Gupta, a multifaceted individual involved in activities such as drug dealing, gun running, and smuggling, now finds himself at the center of a diplomatic dispute between India and the United States. This contentious situation poses a potential threat to meticulously cultivated international relations. Gupta, apprehended in the Czech Republic and facing extradition to the U.S., is charged with conspiring to assassinate Gurpatwant Singh Pannu, a naturalized American citizen also designated as a terrorist by India.

Residing in the Czech Republic, Gupta, an Indian citizen, allegedly targeted Pannu, a proclaimed Khalistani terrorist advocating for the secession of northern India to establish Khalistan. Pannu is speculated to have affiliations with American intelligence agencies and is accused of planning attacks on Indian commercial planes and diplomats in India and Canada.

If the extradition proceedings succeed, Gupta will stand trial in a New York court for conspiring to kill Pannu, a perceived threat to India's security. The complexity of the situation raises questions about Pannu's motives and the involvement of American agencies, adding strain to the historically strong ties between the U.S. and India, exacerbated by recent disagreements over issues like the Ukraine war and oil purchases from Russia.

The narrative prompts concern about diplomatic tensions being considered for an individual with terrorist inclinations, particularly in the context of the close U.S.-India relationship. Speculation in India, fueled by retired high-ranking security officials, suggests Gupta may be a CIA operative strategically placed to tarnish India's image. The inclusion of an unidentified Indian official (CC-1) in the New York Indictment adds further intrigue, although the veracity of these claims remains uncertain.

The potential fallout from this situation may impact U.S.-India relations, especially given the upcoming elections in both countries. Prime Minister Narendra Modi, seeking re-election for the third term, is unlikely to yield to perceived bait, but the episode could leave a lasting impact on diplomatic ties. As Modi and U.S. President Joe Biden face elections, a new administration in either country may need to address and resolve the growing discord.

Modi, the Indian PM, is expected to neither confirm nor deny the identity of the unknown official (CC-1) and will likely contest the case in courts in the Czech Republic and New York. The revelation of super-secret information or the forced disclosure of details in a U.S. court is unlikely to bolster the American case.

 

[DingDong]

India will be on Trial in a New York Court.

Nikhil Gupta, a multifaceted individual involved in activities such as drug dealing, gun running, and smuggling, now finds himself at the center of a diplomatic dispute between India and the United States. This contentious situation poses a potential threat to meticulously cultivated international relations. Gupta, apprehended in the Czech Republic and facing extradition to the U.S., is charged with conspiring to assassinate Gurpatwant Singh Pannu, a naturalized American citizen also designated as a terrorist by India.

Residing in the Czech Republic, Gupta, an Indian citizen, allegedly targeted Pannu, a proclaimed Khalistani terrorist advocating for the secession of northern India to establish Khalistan. Pannu is speculated to have affiliations with American intelligence agencies and is accused of planning attacks on Indian commercial planes and diplomats in India and Canada.

If the extradition proceedings succeed, Gupta will stand trial in a New York court for conspiring to kill Pannu, a perceived threat to India's security. The complexity of the situation raises questions about Pannu's motives and the involvement of American agencies, adding strain to the historically strong ties between the U.S. and India, exacerbated by recent disagreements over issues like the Ukraine war and oil purchases from Russia.

The narrative prompts concern about diplomatic tensions being considered for an individual with terrorist inclinations, particularly in the context of the close U.S.-India relationship. Speculation in India, fueled by retired high-ranking security officials, suggests Gupta may be a CIA operative strategically placed to tarnish India's image. The inclusion of an unidentified Indian official (CC-1) in the New York Indictment adds further intrigue, although the veracity of these claims remains uncertain.

The potential fallout from this situation may impact U.S.-India relations, especially given the upcoming elections in both countries. Prime Minister Narendra Modi, seeking re-election for the third term, is unlikely to yield to perceived bait, but the episode could leave a lasting impact on diplomatic ties. As Modi and U.S. President Joe Biden face elections, a new administration in either country may need to address and resolve the growing discord.

Modi, the Indian PM, is expected to neither confirm nor deny the identity of the unknown official (CC-1) and will likely contest the case in courts in the Czech Republic and New York. The revelation of super-secret information or the forced disclosure of details in a U.S. court is unlikely to bolster the American case.

Why would the Government of India unnecessarily submit to the US court's jurisdiction? Who are we supposed to represent?

Modi, the Indian PM, is expected to neither confirm nor deny the identity of the unknown official (CC-1) and will likely contest the case in courts in the Czech Republic and New York

^^^ What does that even mean?

 

[another_armchair]

Indian consulate in San Francisco vandalised by Khalistan supporters; US reacts

Pro-Khalistan radicals set the Indian consulate in San Francisco on fire, but the damage was limited and no staffers were injured. Indian diplomats in Canada are also facing threats ahead of a Khalistan rally. The US has condemned the vandalism and attempted arson.

www.livemint.com

I meant I couldn't find any news of any perpetrator getting arrested.

 

[Hari Sud]

Why would the Government of India unnecessarily submit to the US court's jurisdiction? Who are we supposed to represent?

Modi, the Indian PM, is expected to neither confirm nor deny the identity of the unknown official (CC-1) and will likely contest the case in courts in the Czech Republic and New York

^^^ What does that even mean?

‘’India will not go to the court but will be the main subject of the proceedings in the New York court.

 

[hurrians]

Roos was happy supplying gas to zoorope and earning bucks , bedoin chacha has instead now made his Navy to be present in bharatiya mahasagar, now wants to bring his colour and spring revolution in bonglaland.

Gora sahib will undo all the good Sheikh Hasina was trying in the pados mulk. He will favour his jehadhi biradars.

What Russian warships in Chattogram port tells us about great power competition in Bangladesh

Bangladesh has become a prime battleground for great power competition.

www.thedailystar.net

 

[Tshering22]

"America enjoys a virtual monopoly in key sectors - social media, e-commerce, financial technology and more - in the rapidly growing Indian economy, which is projected to surpass Japan and Germany by 2030."

A good snippet from the entire propaganda article, anyway chicomese employs a brown coolie, maybe a Mao fan.

Is the India-US honeymoon coming to an end soon? - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

Selling Flipkart to Walmart was an idiotic and poorly thought decision. It should be retained as an Indian conglomerate and expand its operations worldwide. Competing with Amazon isn't easy but they were securing capital and going head-on against them.

The fact that the entire major e-commerce ecosystem is dominated by US-backed investment firms should be worrying our tech leaders to no end. Not to mention the government.

• Hike Messenger has had limited success and has failed to topple WhatsApp even in the domestic market despite offering many features early on;
• Koo has not been able to capitalize on the tensions despite its initial success and rapid initial switches; I was half expecting PM Modi to open an account on the Koo app at that time which would have sent alarm bells ringing in Twitter HQ;
• There is no parallel to Facebook yet - something that concerns me to no end;

GT is wrong about Fintech, which is probably the only area where we have some strength at this point. Sure, it has many US investors, but the core of operations is within Indian control. PhonePe and PayTM, are the dominant players, apart from UPI BHIM of course. Even with Apple, Google and Samsung making it big with their ecosystem models, people transact largely using Indian applications.

 

[Tshering22]

Roos was happy supplying gas to zoorope and earning bucks, bedoin chacha has instead now made his Navy to be present in Bharatiya mahasagar, and now wants to bring his colour and spring revolution to bonglaland.

Gora sahib will undo all the good Sheikh Hasina was trying in the pados mulk. He will favour his jehadhi biradars.

What Russian warships in Chattogram port tells us about great power competition in Bangladesh

Bangladesh has become a prime battleground for great power competition.

www.thedailystar.net

Russia was there to play wargames with us as well as Bangladeshis. The article is amusing to think that we are on the scale with the US against Russia here. Circumstantially speaking, we are in the Roos-Cheen faction when it comes to Bangladesh and in our own camp when it comes to Myanmar.

Both Myanmar and Bangladesh need a similar solution. Haseena's successor may not be as strong; we might need to find a non-jamaati option before Burger Boys install the wannabe Pakistanis.

 

[Tshering22]

Their propaganda doesn't seem very effective now that we have got Social Media. At least from the Indian perspective, the Indian RW ecosystem has established a numerical superiority, sufficient to drown their voices.

BTW, the US media and government have gone silent on this Pannun issue, and so have the Khalistanis in the past 24 hours.

Weighing their options.

I am pretty sure that we have been talking to them using the back channel. There is absolutely nothing left to chance. When Jake Sullivan spoke to Ajit Doval, he was reminded that RAW knew about Pannun being a CIA asset after Justinder made public allegations on the Nijjar case.

It is also likely that IB has significant information about the recent rise of Khalistani sentiments and their connections to the anglophone world. Perhaps Doval would try to drop a few hints to the US saying that we have enough evidence to make it very difficult for them if this whole episode goes sideways.

 

[DingDong]

Selling Flipkart to Walmart was an idiotic and poorly thought decision. It should be retained as an Indian conglomerate and expand its operations worldwide. Competing with Amazon isn't easy but they were securing capital and going head-on against them.

The fact that the entire major e-commerce ecosystem is dominated by US-backed investment firms should be worrying our tech leaders to no end. Not to mention the government.

• Hike Messenger has had limited success and has failed to topple WhatsApp even in the domestic market despite offering many features early on;
• Koo has not been able to capitalize on the tensions despite its initial success and rapid initial switches; I was half expecting PM Modi to open an account on the Koo app at that time which would have sent alarm bells ringing in Twitter HQ;
• There is no parallel to Facebook yet - something that concerns me to no end;

GT is wrong about Fintech, which is probably the only area where we have some strength at this point. Sure, it has many US investors, but the core of operations is within Indian control. PhonePe and PayTM, are the dominant players, apart from UPI BHIM of course. Even with Apple, Google and Samsung making it big with their ecosystem models, people transact largely using Indian applications.

Commercial entities can be taken over by the government, money, investments and assets can be seized.

Hike, Koo etc are copycats, those are highly unlikely to succeed due to something called "consumer loyalty".

The FANG is too technologically advanced, efficient and resource rich to be defeated by the mimics. Beating them will require "real innovation" and lot of hand-holding from the government in terms of "funds, subsidies and legal support".