India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

[VehlaBanda]

there are lots of problems.we believe that we hit su-30 but there is no proof.you said you hit f-16.there is no wreckage lol. we have no evidence of su-30 kill.ajai shukla tweeted two mig-21 kill.God knows what's the reality.

Convincing you alone would hardly mean anything as long as your army can take away the liberty of not acknowledging the sacrifice of soldiers in the name of national security....I assure u every single casualty in india is reported

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[sorcerer]

yes parachutes.that's why it's still a mystery because we all know that another plane was hit but don't know whose plane? iaf or paf!

Yeah...
DESPITE the parachute(s) getting opened in PoK. and pilot bailing out in PoK.
we still dont know what the OTHER PLANE is and who all bailed out of it all in PoK.
TRUE!!!

.Very true!!! Mystery only..!
I like where its going..

yes your iaf said that they have radar signature.if we ask you to share,you will say that it's sensitive information.again we will end up with the same theory.we don't know what happened.

This is where the logic falls out.
Then what is the Pak radar doing? I hope you guyz have the same radar info as we have...as you are seeing the same thing as we are seeing on the radar.

 

[Arsalan123]

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yes it was flying.callsign SONa.very important plane for iaf.

 

[doreamon]

yes your iaf said that they have radar signature.if we ask you to share,you will say that it's sensitive information.again we will end up with the same theory.we don't know what happened.

If it is truth u seek.. wait for a decade just like kargil war... someone ll write a book abt it fr sure..

 

[Enquirer]

sir we all know about dogfight.it's not easy at all and chances of hitting enemy is too high.i am not sure about our f-16 theory but i feel that we did well.iaf is much more better equipped than paf.we started this project jf-17 just to meet the requirements of paf.there are lots of fighter jets with better avionics.yes indians call it junk.i don't mind.kargil and 1971 is a harsh reality.we can't change it.

Things you need consider where trying to piece together the big story:

- Several witnesses noticed THREE parachutes in the air!
- Paki DGISPR first said they had THREE pilots in custody, then said they had TWO (with one in the hospital) before finally saying that there was only ONE pilot in custody.
- No Paki journalist or civilian dares to ask Paki army what happened to the other pilots; several weeks later a bald conspiracy theorist floats a funny story that Pakis have an Israeli pilot in custody (if that was even remotely true then Israel would have bombed the whole of your country).
- The failure of Pakis to engage their own govt & army for any kind of clarification shows that people and journalists (as usual) are willingly complicit in covering up lies.
- F16s ejection seat parachute is made of Orange, Green & White colors (Indian tricolor flag). There's a good possibility that the story that Pakis mistook Paki pilot to be Indian is true. Also most Paki pilots wear too many insignia that they don't have Paki flag patch on their clothing!
- In contrast Indian govt never makes false statements publicly....at worst it might withhold full details. Also if two Indian pilots were killed or injured, Indian media would dig it out in no time. Unlike Paki journalists who live in fear of getting whacked off, Indian journalists are unafraid to the extent of being boorish with the govt!!!
- If you reflect on Pak's previous record of willfully concealing military losses (even told Paki senate and civilian govt that they had no need to know about casualties in any conflict), then its hardly a surprise that Paki army would want to conceal the loss of an F16. Indian govt on the other hand publicly mourns the death of every soldier!

 

[Arsalan123]

Yeah...
DESPITE the parachute(s) getting opened in PoK. and pilot bailing out in PoK.
we still dont know what the OTHER PLANE is and who all bailed out of it all in PoK.
TRUE!!!

.Very true!!! Mystery only..!
I like where its going..




This is where the logic falls out.
Then what is the Pak radar doing? I hope you guyz have the same radar info as we have...as you are seeing the same thing as we are seeing on the radar.

on our side,details aren't available but we were very emotional on that particular day. i was sad after balakot because iaf went deep inside pakistani airspace but people believe that we allowed iaf to do whatever they wanted.there was no order from higher authorities.only order was to escort iaf back to it's airspace.it was funny lol.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

on our side,details aren't available but we were very emotional on that particular day. i was sad after balakot because iaf went deep inside pakistani airspace but people believe that we allowed iaf to do whatever they wanted.there was no order from higher authorities.only order was to escort iaf back to it's airspace.it was funny lol.

Obviously the risk of escalation and reluctance to incur this was involved.

Even if Pakistan tracked Indian planes deep inside its territory, it may be possible that it avoided to shoot any of them down because rest of aircrafts and India on border may go violent.

 

[SanjeevM]

Have a look at the rebuilt house where Burhan wani was killed, it was shown in patriot program couple of weeks back.

The compound wall is thick like a fort..

Everyone wants to upgrade their house every 20 years.

Everyone cannot build fortresses. Reduce the amount of compensation.

 

[kamaal]

on our side,details aren't available but we were very emotional on that particular day. i was sad after balakot because iaf went deep inside pakistani airspace but people believe that we allowed iaf to do whatever they wanted.there was no order from higher authorities.only order was to escort iaf back to it's airspace.it was funny lol.

Where are those remaining 2 pilots which ISPR claimed to be under their custody ? Now I hope as a responsible authority they would have issued some clarification about their whereabouts.

 

[brational]

Arsalan, very bold of being on the forum with those odd flags. Or are you faking ?
Secondly, are you sure there are no virus in the attachment .
Thirdly, tell us what is unusual in the picture ?

Brave indeed. Wait for few days. We will be getting lots of Propaganda/unverifiable materials sourced from Pakistani websites on the recent events.

I have a feeling, this is the reincarnation of @Neo
BTW Pakistanis are unable to find the F16 wreckage just like their Army and ISI were unable to find OBL in Pakistan.

 

[Arsalan123]

Things you need consider where trying to piece together the big story:

- Several witnesses noticed THREE parachutes in the air!
- Paki DGISPR first said they had THREE pilots in custody, then said they had TWO (with one in the hospital) before finally saying that there was only ONE pilot in custody.
- No Paki journalist or civilian dares to ask Paki army what happened to the other pilots; several weeks later a bald conspiracy theorist floats a funny story that Pakis have an Israeli pilot in custody (if that was even remotely true then Israel would have bombed the whole of your country).
- The failure of Pakis to engage their own govt & army for any kind of clarification shows that people and journalists (as usual) are willingly complicit in covering up lies.
- F16s ejection seat parachute is made of Orange, Green & White colors (Indian tricolor flag). There's a good possibility that the story that Pakis mistook Paki pilot to be Indian is true. Also most Paki pilots wear too many insignia that they don't have Paki flag patch on their clothing!
- In contrast Indian govt never makes false statements publicly....at worst it might withhold full details. Also if two Indian pilots were killed or injured, Indian media would dig it out in no time. Unlike Paki journalists who live in fear of getting whacked off, Indian journalists are unafraid to the extent of being boorish with the govt!!!
- If you reflect on Pak's previous record of willfully concealing military losses (even told Paki senate and civilian govt that they had no need to know about casualties in any conflict), then its hardly a surprise that Paki army would want to conceal the loss of an F16. Indian govt on the other hand publicly mourns the death of every soldier!

we changed stories but finally we accepted that it was indian pilot.he said it in kamran khan show that the other pilot died.kamran khan didn't ask further question on this topic.again it's a mystery but after a long time,finally a dogfight and i think it's good for both air forces to know each other methods and tricks.it's good xd.

 

[***Vo!D***]

there are lots of problems.we believe that we hit su-30 but there is no proof.you said you hit f-16.there is no wreckage lol. we have no evidence of su-30 kill.ajai shukla tweeted two mig-21 kill.God knows what's the reality.

Interesting, very interesting to see a Pakistani with somewhat of a neutral view. Anyhow, on the events of the 27th, it is now beyond doubt that
1. PAF used F16s, no other PAF jet can fire the AMRAAM and JF 17 does not have BVR capabilities as yet, it any it can probably fire Chinese AAMs.
2. 1 IAF MiG 21 went down, shot or otherwise we don't know.
3. 1 PAF F 16 went down, shot for sure because the IAF officially says so, Wing Co Abhi says so and these are credible people. Also, there is video evidence showing two ejections from a burning jet. The classic canopy separation unique to American fighters can also be seen (at least I see it). That video is the best piece of evidence. Secondly, the most recent goof up on the part of some impulsive Pakistani also added substantial substance to the F 16 kill theory. I'm talking about the line up of the MiG 21s AAMs. It was clear that 1 R77 and 1 R73 were fired off by Abhi. The R73s midsection containing the warhead interestingly was missing, the seeker damaged and the rocket motors were charred. Tell tale signs of warhead detonation.
4. No Su 30s went down. The Su 30 theory (misinformation) was peddled by Pakistanis after being caught in an unanswerable situation wrt to the 3 pilot claims of ISPR. There is absolutely not a shred of substance to that claim other than Pakistan's own delusions. Besides, if the SU 30 had been shot, your country would have paraded that evidence more so than parading the Wing Co. And quite honestly, it'd been all out war at least in the air from that point forward.

Case closed in my opinion. IAF - 1 PAF - 1.

 

[sorcerer]

on our side,details aren't available but we were very emotional on that particular day. i was sad after balakot because iaf went deep inside pakistani airspace but people believe that we allowed iaf to do whatever they wanted.there was no order from higher authorities.only order was to escort iaf back to it's airspace.it was funny lol.

Seriously, you guyz shouldn't be emotional.India did a favor for you. India knows whole heartedly that your administration cant do anything to these outfits.

India took down a few of the Terrorists for the whole world..as we all know pakistan acknowledges the fact that terrorism is the one thing that is eating pakistan from within destroying the economy and what not. So we did it for you minus the "issues"

Unlike USA which causes collateral damage with their actions inside pakistan..IAF did a clean strike and no collateral damage.
See..this will be a norm in the coming days for any nation that is trying terror factories inside oown land.
Israel will do it..USA will do it UK will do it..India will do it..china will do it.. Culling the things on the source is one thing, they agreed at one point in UN I Suppose!

 

[SanjeevM]

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It means India is ready for all kind of action. Pakistanis will have more sleepless nights.

 

[sorcerer]

on our side,details aren't available but we were very emotional on that particular day. i was sad after balakot because iaf went deep inside pakistani airspace but people believe that we allowed iaf to do whatever they wanted.there was no order from higher authorities.only order was to escort iaf back to it's airspace.it was funny lol.

Seriously, you guyz shouldn't be emotional.India did a favor for you. India knows whole heartedly that your administration cant do anything to these outfits.

India took down a few of the Terrorists for the whole world..as we all know pakistan acknowledges the fact that terrorism is the one thing that is eating pakistan from within destroying the economy and what not. So we did it for you minus the "issues"

Unlike USA which causes collateral damage with their actions inside pakistan..IAF did a clean strike and no collateral damage.
See..this will be a norm in the coming days for any nation that is trying terror factories inside oown land.
Israel will do it..USA will do it UK will do it..India will do it..china will do it.. Culling the things on the source is one thing, they agreed at one point in UN I Suppose!

 

[doreamon]

Things you need consider where trying to piece together the big story:

- Several witnesses noticed THREE parachutes in the air!
- Paki DGISPR first said they had THREE pilots in custody, then said they had TWO (with one in the hospital) before finally saying that there was only ONE pilot in custody.
- No Paki journalist or civilian dares to ask Paki army what happened to the other pilots; several weeks later a bald conspiracy theorist floats a funny story that Pakis have an Israeli pilot in custody (if that was even remotely true then Israel would have bombed the whole of your country).
- The failure of Pakis to engage their own govt & army for any kind of clarification shows that people and journalists (as usual) are willingly complicit in covering up lies.
- F16s ejection seat parachute is made of Orange, Green & White colors (Indian tricolor flag). There's a good possibility that the story that Pakis mistook Paki pilot to be Indian is true. Also most Paki pilots wear too many insignia that they don't have Paki flag patch on their clothing!
- In contrast Indian govt never makes false statements publicly....at worst it might withhold full details. Also if two Indian pilots were killed or injured, Indian media would dig it out in no time. Unlike Paki journalists who live in fear of getting whacked off, Indian journalists are unafraid to the extent of being boorish with the govt!!!
- If you reflect on Pak's previous record of willfully concealing military losses (even told Paki senate and civilian govt that they had no need to know about casualties in any conflict), then its hardly a surprise that Paki army would want to conceal the loss of an F16. Indian govt on the other hand publicly mourns the death of every soldier!

Not to forget that r73 r77 pics.. 1st day they came up with 1 r73 amd 1 r77... when some netizens complained that there are 4 hard points in mig21 their info war wing came up with another pic.. They exposed themselves by showing the used piece of r73... then post suddenly gets deleted along with the account

 

[Arsalan123]

Obviously the risk of escalation and reluctance to incur this was involved.

Even if Pakistan tracked Indian planes deep inside its territory, it may be possible that it avoided to shoot any of them down because rest of aircrafts and India on border may go violent.

i believe that iaf package was large.some of the jets were very aggressive and some of them was outside our airspace,waiting to fire bvr.

 

[sorcerer]

..neutral view...


Case closed in my opinion. IAF - 1 PAF - 1.

There is an old saying .."If your attack is going according to the plan..you are walking into an ambush"

 

[Arsalan123]

Not to forget that r73 r77 pics.. 1st day they came up with 1 r73 amd 1 r77... when some netizens complained that there are 4 hard points in mig21 their info war wing came up with another pic.. They exposed themselves by showing the used piece of r73... then post suddenly gets deleted along with the account

i was stunned to see r-77. even mig 21 can fire r-77.this information wasn't in public domain.

 

[Sikhbrah]

on our side,details aren't available but we were very emotional on that particular day. i was sad after balakot because iaf went deep inside pakistani airspace but people believe that we allowed iaf to do whatever they wanted.there was no order from higher authorities.only order was to escort iaf back to it's airspace.it was funny lol.

You sound sensible - I have always been curious about this though.

Does the common Pakistani really believe the governments narrative that no terrorists are being harbored in Pakistan?

It’s painful obvious to the world that there are elements in Pakistan supporting this terrorist - but can the local Pakistanis see this?

You do know that the Indian army is targeting the terrorist and not Pakistan itself?