India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

Status
Not open for further replies.

Enquirer

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2018
Messages
3,567
Likes
9,357
you missed out the word "shahadat" and "rutbe". Sir ji

hmmm I have to say thanks to bollyturd I know Urdu. LOL
...............................................................................................
You need to watch more Bollywood then :)
Rutba means honor; shahadat in plainspeak is 'ludak jaana'! I already put said those in my earlier post.
If 200 indeed died, he won't be saying that it's a special thing etc. He's using the 200 number to suggest how 'special' this one dude is who got killed.

I am only saying that we're not Pakis to misinterpret and spread false propaganda.
 

mayfair

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 26, 2010
Messages
6,032
Likes
13,109
Does anyone has a transcript of this video?

Would make it easier to try and interpret.
 

Enquirer

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2018
Messages
3,567
Likes
9,357
Does anyone has a transcript of this video?

Would make it easier to try and interpret.
It's our belief that whosoever stands with the regime of the time, one who fights....it's a jihad!!

This honor is bestowed on some special people, not everyone get this honor.
Did you know that 200 people went up yesterday?
His destiny was martyrdom; we didn't have that destiny. We climb everyday...we go..we come.
This is Allah's special person, only he that has done great deeds, He has his eyes on him, that person is bestowed this destiny....not everyone gets it
 
Last edited:

SanjeevM

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2017
Messages
1,631
Likes
4,503
Country flag
This is why Pakis will never let go of Baluchistan...............

https://www.thenational.ae/business/pakistan-s-500bn-gold-mine-kept-under-wraps-1.606927

Pakistan’s $500bn gold mine kept under wraps

The fifth-largest deposit in the world remains under ground in Pakistan as a dispute over who has the right to develop it halts progress.

Uncertainty surrounds the future of a world-class gold mine in Pakistan due to poor handling of the project by regional authorities.

Reko Diq is a copper and gold mine in Chagai district of Balochistan province with a value up to $500bn. It holds about 5.9 billion tonnes of ore, making it the world’s fifth largest deposit of gold and copper.

But the huge project has ground to a halt over a dispute between the provincial government and the miners.

Tethyan Copper Company (TCC) – a joint venture of Barrick Gold of Canada and Antofagasta of Chile – had been awarded a licence for exploration in the Reko Diq area in 2006. In 2011, TCC’s application for a mining lease for the project was rejected by the Balochistan government of then-chief minister Aslam Raisani, which decided to run the project on its own.

TCC took the case to the international arbitration court claiming damages because it had invested more than $500 million in exploration and feasibility studies.

“There is potential … for multiple mine developments over the next few decades. By refusing a mining licence without good grounds, it’s sending quite a negative signal to the exploration/mining community,” said Tim Livesey, the chief executive of TCC, in 2012.

The rejection of a mining licence to the company after an exploration permit had been granted was an unusual decision by the government. Mr Raisani abruptly closed off communication with the company and even refused to meet its executives.

Mr Raisani rejected the TCC bid in the name of protecting the legitimate interest of Balochistan, but did his decision really help the least developed province and its people?

Balochistan has always been on the country’s political periphery, and has suffered years of neglect. The Baloch nationalist parties had reservations about the Reko Diq deal – signed with a foreign firm by the government of former president Pervez Musharaf without taking local leadership into their confidence.

Soon after the rejection of TCC’s bid, the Metallurgical Corporation of China (MCC) came with a counter proposal for a mining lease for Reko Diq and offered Balochistan a larger share in income and royalty.

In 2002, MCC had acquired a lease the Saindak copper and gold project in the same district as Chagai, which expired in 2012. If the Raisani government was serious in its desire to develop deposits using local firms, why did it not oppose the five-year extension in the lease period of the Saindak project?

The Reko Diq project became controversial after news stories alleged that the Reko Diq gold mines were being secretly sold to foreign firms for peanuts.

The dispute between TCC and Balochistan began after the resignation of Mr Musharraf in 2008. Under his administration, TCC was awarded the project with mining rights and it signed a joint-venture agreement with Balochistan holding 25 per cent interest in the project. But in December 2009, Balochistan said it was cancelling the TCC deal.

That triggered a blame game, with each side accusing the other of violating mineral rules. In January 2013, former chief justice of the supreme court Iftikhar Chaudhry declared the Reko Diq contract between the Balochistan and TCC void.

Crucially, the general elections of May last year brought a new government to Balochistan, with Abdul Baloch replacing Mr Raisani as chief minister.

Mr Baloch’s government is now considering renegotiating the deal with the TCC. Both the federal and provincial governments now wish for an out-of-court settlement with the TCC. If a deal with TCC is now the best choice, why did the previous government reject the company’s bid for a mining lease?

In early 2013, Mr Raisani was removed from the post as the law and order situation in Balochistan broke down. After stepping down, he linked his removal to his decision to scrap Reko Diq deal.

In fact, the former chief minister failed to serve the interest of Balochistan when he tore up the TCC deal.

For instance, how would the cash-strapped province, which is unable to pay even the fee for legal experts, pay the damages if the international court rules in favour of TCC? In case of an out-of-court settlement, TCC would be in a stronger position to bargain over the issues related to the development of the gold mine. The Reko Diq project could lead to the development of a modern mining industry and change the destiny of the country’s least developed province.

Arbitration proceedings have further delayed the mine’s development, which has not been worked since 1993 when BHP Billiton signed a deal with Balochistan. While BHP had an exploration deal, it did no practical work and sold its 75 per cent interest to TCC in 2000. In 2006, TCC was taken over by Antofagasta and Barrick Gold.

TCC deserves credit for the discovery of the huge Reko Diq deposits. The company was willing to make an investment of $5bn over five years. It could have been the biggest foreign-financed project in the country’s history. But the short-sighted policy of the government meant this potential game changer never got off the ground.

What has been the outcome of the dispute so far? The country has missed a huge foreign investment. It has closed the door on technology transfer in mining into Pakistan and discouraged foreign firms eyeing up its mineral deposits.

Meanwhile, prospects for this world-class mine lie dormant until the final ruling of the international court.

[email protected]

If this is the case then India should overtly stand in support of Balauchistan freedom fighters. U.S. would also listen to the complaints of Genocide of lakhs of Balauchistan people and their disappearance and cold blooded murder by Pakistan Army.
 

SanjeevM

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2017
Messages
1,631
Likes
4,503
Country flag
I read somewhere that China is trying to form an alliance to seek compensation from Boeing for all the loss incurred to airlines due to faulty aircraft.
Boeing share is already down by 7%. And Boeing CEO has already asked President Trump not to down 737 Max aircraft in US.
Though FAA has already stated that they have not found any systematic performance issue.

So Boeing getting bankrupt in near future does not look possible.


China would take this as an opportunity to push for its indigenously built commercial aircrafts to global acceptance level.
Recently Trump visited China and during his visit, China had to concede to a lot of US demands. It may be an opportunity by China to make good those losses.

If Boeing needs funds, they can provide TOT for certain things we need.
 

sorcerer

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2013
Messages
26,919
Likes
98,471
Country flag
Pakis are in a hurry to sell balochistan to.highest bidder.
Pak army says it's getting into oil business.+ Leasing one mine in Afghan border..which was revoked by Baloch govt.

This itself can create political unrest in balochistan.
Balochis need to protest against this and things will spiral out

:popcorn:
 

mayfair

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 26, 2010
Messages
6,032
Likes
13,109
It's our belief that whosoever stands with the regime of the time, one who fights....it's a jihad!!

This honor is bestowed on some special people, not everyone get this honor.
Did you know that 200 people went up yesterday?
His destiny was martyrdom; we didn't have that destiny. We climb everyday...we go..we come.
This is Allah's special person, only he that has done great deeds, He has his eyes on him, that person is bestowed this destiny....not everyone gets it
Thanks very much for that, now if it's not too much of a bother, could you also post a Roman Hindi/Urdu transcript of this?
 

Akshay_Fenix

Member
Senior Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2016
Messages
2,226
Likes
7,024
You need to watch more Bollywood then :)
Rutba means honor; shahadat in plainspeak is 'ludak jaana'! I already put said those in my earlier post.
If 200 indeed died, he won't be saying that it's a special thing etc. He's using the 200 number to suggest how 'special' this one dude is who got killed.

I am only saying that we're not Pakis to misinterpret and spread false propaganda.
"200 folks 'going up' (probably climbing a mountain/hill that they normally do)" your Quote.

Duhh, my bad. How did I forget, that place is a hill climbing resort. 200 people going up the mountain hill.
1 guy dying and attaining martyrdom, and then the PA guy says we don't get that honor.

Every Porki army guys dream of climbing a hill top and attaining martyrdom.

Salute to the logic behind this. :tongue:

"we're not Pakis to misinterpret and spread false propaganda "

Also there's no such thing as "false propaganda". There's a reason why we call it "propaganda". Nothing bad about it, everyone does it.
 

TejasMK3

Regular Member
Joined
May 13, 2015
Messages
610
Likes
3,454
Country flag

:failure to designate Masood Azhar as a terrorist would be counter to peace...

Black list Masood, and Pakis/Cheenis might face repercussions within Pak and their projects might get blown up (of course, Doesnt mean Pak will stop supporting supporting terror, we will keep pounding them too.)

Dont blacklist them, Porkis get destroyed into bits :D
 

Enquirer

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2018
Messages
3,567
Likes
9,357

:failure to designate Masood Azhar as a terrorist would be counter to peace...

Black list Masood, and Pakis/Cheenis might face repercussions within Pak and their projects might get blown up (of course, Doesnt mean Pak will stop supporting supporting terror, we will keep pounding them too.)

Dont blacklist them, Porkis get destroyed into bits :D
I always get confused why India is spending so much of its energy and capital on getting this Masood Azhar black listed!

What happens after he gets blacklisted? He'll resign from Jaish-e-Mohammad and kick start a new venture Jaish-e-Prophet!!!
The asshole Hafiz Saeed is blacklisted; he's still raising money for his LeT, JuD & FiI , and pumping out jihadis!!!
 

TejasMK3

Regular Member
Joined
May 13, 2015
Messages
610
Likes
3,454
Country flag
I always get confused why India is spending so much of its energy and capital on getting this Masood Azhar black listed!

What happens after he gets blacklisted? He'll resign from Jaish-e-Mohammad and kick start a new venture Jaish-e-Prophet!!!
The asshole Hafiz Saeed is blacklisted; he's still raising money for his LeT, JuD & FiI , and pumping out jihadis!!!
Was thinking the same thing, It'll actually be a badge of honour for him if he gets blacklisted.

But then I dont know the technical details of how much it impairs his functioning..and what we gain out of it. if it was nothing big, then why would China oppose it so much..
 

Srinivas_K

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 17, 2009
Messages
7,420
Likes
12,945
Country flag
I always get confused why India is spending so much of its energy and capital on getting this Masood Azhar black listed!

What happens after he gets blacklisted? He'll resign from Jaish-e-Mohammad and kick start a new venture Jaish-e-Prophet!!!
The asshole Hafiz Saeed is blacklisted; he's still raising money for his LeT, JuD & FiI , and pumping out jihadis!!!
JeM is not an independent terror organisation in Pakistan , it is an arm of Pakistani military.
 

sorcerer

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2013
Messages
26,919
Likes
98,471
Country flag
Was thinking the same thing, It'll actually be a badge of honour for him if he gets blacklisted.

But then I dont know the technical details of how much it impairs his functioning..and what we gain out of it. if it was nothing big, then why would China oppose it so much..
Something in China's game plan
The reason why India want it blacklisted much.
Could be to show that India has the upper hand on things in countering pakis despite china in the prime position to save pakis.

A clear message that china can't save the terror factories for ever
 

afako

Hindufying India
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 18, 2010
Messages
3,723
Likes
21,204
Country flag

...........................................................................................................

Fascinating. There's a lot going on in the video, not just the casualty count.
He says 200 upar gaye. Naseeb wale ko hi shahdat milti hai.

Shahdat = Martyrdom.

Second point, in the very next sentence he says Allah ke khas bandhe. Note bandhe is a plural word. If it was one person, he would have used bandha.)

Case closed.

200 Jihadis of his faction killed.

Not counting Paki soldiers, ISI personnel and other faction Jihadis.

This is considerate additional proof.
 

Enquirer

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2018
Messages
3,567
Likes
9,357
Was thinking the same thing, It'll actually be a badge of honour for him if he gets blacklisted.

But then I dont know the technical details of how much it impairs his functioning..and what we gain out of it. if it was nothing big, then why would China oppose it so much..
If India is willing to pay the price......China keeps upping it!!!
The first rule of bargaining is to never let the seller know how much you like it!!!!
 

afako

Hindufying India
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 18, 2010
Messages
3,723
Likes
21,204
Country flag
Something in China's game plan
The reason why India want it blacklisted much.
Could be to show that India has the upper hand on things in countering pakis despite china in the prime position to save pakis.

A clear message that china can't save the terror factories for ever
No it is the Indian Navy mounted on Karachi Gwadar that made the Chinese realise their vulnerability.

Secondly, the Chinese had invested considerate amount of resources in propping Pakistan to counter India and underinvested on their western border near India. Now that insurance failed and they have realised their western plank is open to Indian military + new found Political will.

They are terrified.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top