Remind me again how many parts we broke Porkistan into in 1971?
Mig21 was outranged/outgunned.....not IAF!!!IAF was ‘outranged and outgunned’ by PAF: Indian media
BY NEWS DESK , (LAST UPDATED MARCH 27, 2019)
Indian journalist Shekhar Gupta in his column in Hindustan Times admitted that Indian Air Force (IAF)’s best fighting jets—MiG-21, which is the backbone of the air force were “outranged and outgunned” by Pakistan Air Force (PAF) on February 27.
In his piece, he wrote that whether the Rafale deal is a scam or the best thing for India’s defence is for more eminent people to debate. Let me, meanwhile, list four facts emerging from the February 26-27 air skirmishes to bring the story of what should be called the real Rafale scandal.
*In the Rajouri-Mendhar sector air skirmish a day after the Indian Air Force’s “Balakot strikes”, the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) was able to create surprise and local superiority — technological and numerical — in a chosen battlefield. It struck in daylight when least expected, and perfectly timed to attack the changeover of IAF AWAC patrols. The outnumbered IAF pilots (12 aircraft of three vastly different types), scrambled from various bases and showed the presence of mind not to walk into the ambush set for them, but they failed to deliver a deterrent punishment on PAF.
“Four Sukhoi-30s, the IAF’s most powerful air-superiority aircraft, were involved in the melee at beyond visual range (BVR). They were surprised by the PAF F-16s firing their American AMRAAM missiles from so far that their own radar/computer/missiles were not able to give them a “firing solution”. Translated: India’s best fighter, which constitutes half of the IAF’s combat force, was outranged and outgunned,” Gupta wrote.
It is important to mention here that Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Major General Asif Ghafoor clearly stated that Pakistan Air Force (PAF) did not use F-16s in the dogfight with India. “PAF used JF-17 Thunder in the air conflict on February 27,” Ghafoor stated.
Meanwhile, Gupta further wrote that surprised, and outnumbered, the IAF scrambled six MiG-21 Bisons from Srinagar and Awantipur. Since these climbed in the shadow of the Pir Panjal range, the PAF AWAC failed to detect them. Their sudden appearance at the battlefield upset the PAF plan. This was fortuitous
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...u7NMowEnFzVCNz5tb3N3XF7RZjv2qSmAqZeDcb9whOPcc
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LoC right now is the official weapon testing facility. Sare validation trials abse yahi honge.#BREAKING : Ceasefire violation #PakistanArmy. #India retaliates with heavy fire! 1 enemy post destroyed 4-7 killed and several injured #Pakistan aslo reporting about loss of 2 armored Vehicles hit by #IndianArmy shells in retaliation ! Who saw said: Sanskrit BOW usedwonder wat
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The problem with Pakistani pigs are they always lies left right and center and that becomes the embarrassment ... lying is in Pakistani DNA...
Aren't you that same guy who was selling cheap photoshopped images of Russian Flanker to Indians in this forum??
Do you know that only 2 mirage-2000 held off 16 Junk fighters 17 and mirage 3 and only 2 Su 30 mki and 2 Mig 21 held off 8 F-16s with amraam AIM 120 ?
Shekhar Gupta is a joker or rather a joke himself not a journalist and definitely not a defence expert at least by a light year. Keep him please.
If they start the land war, then every option will be on the table right ? I don't know why but I just want to see a certain city in flames again.
Well his article Will get IAF more Money for Capex SpendingShekhar Gupta is a joker or rather a joke himself not a journalist and definitely not a defence expert at least by a light year. Keep him please.
I heard Chinks love Paki virgin pussy.......
The same Indian journalist also claimed that Abhinandan's Mig-21 B had a Pakistani F-16 kill ... Ha Ha !! Stupid !! selective quoting ??IAF was ‘outranged and outgunned’ by PAF: Indian media
BY NEWS DESK , (LAST UPDATED MARCH 27, 2019)
Indian journalist Shekhar Gupta in his column in Hindustan Times admitted that Indian Air Force (IAF)’s best fighting jets—MiG-21, which is the backbone of the air force were “outranged and outgunned” by Pakistan Air Force (PAF) on February 27.
In his piece, he wrote that whether the Rafale deal is a scam or the best thing for India’s defence is for more eminent people to debate. Let me, meanwhile, list four facts emerging from the February 26-27 air skirmishes to bring the story of what should be called the real Rafale scandal.
*In the Rajouri-Mendhar sector air skirmish a day after the Indian Air Force’s “Balakot strikes”, the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) was able to create surprise and local superiority — technological and numerical — in a chosen battlefield. It struck in daylight when least expected, and perfectly timed to attack the changeover of IAF AWAC patrols. The outnumbered IAF pilots (12 aircraft of three vastly different types), scrambled from various bases and showed the presence of mind not to walk into the ambush set for them, but they failed to deliver a deterrent punishment on PAF.
“Four Sukhoi-30s, the IAF’s most powerful air-superiority aircraft, were involved in the melee at beyond visual range (BVR). They were surprised by the PAF F-16s firing their American AMRAAM missiles from so far that their own radar/computer/missiles were not able to give them a “firing solution”. Translated: India’s best fighter, which constitutes half of the IAF’s combat force, was outranged and outgunned,” Gupta wrote.
It is important to mention here that Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Major General Asif Ghafoor clearly stated that Pakistan Air Force (PAF) did not use F-16s in the dogfight with India. “PAF used JF-17 Thunder in the air conflict on February 27,” Ghafoor stated.
Meanwhile, Gupta further wrote that surprised, and outnumbered, the IAF scrambled six MiG-21 Bisons from Srinagar and Awantipur. Since these climbed in the shadow of the Pir Panjal range, the PAF AWAC failed to detect them. Their sudden appearance at the battlefield upset the PAF plan. This was fortuitous
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...u7NMowEnFzVCNz5tb3N3XF7RZjv2qSmAqZeDcb9whOPcc
PAF was so scared of approaching Mirage 2000's they fled the scene and Mirage 2000's completed their tasks in Balakot and other strikes...Shekhar Gupta is a joker or rather a joke himself not a journalist and definitely not a defence expert at least by a light year. Keep him please.
It means we are pounding them like those Chinese pounds their women every night
Can't say if he is a porki but he is being rational. I was banned recently bevause I too raised the same questions about these pseudo-nationalists in one of my threads. Modi mishandled the situation that arose after the pulwama attack. The problem was not the downing of the mig but the complacency of our armed forces and political leadership. They just gave porkies what they needed the most, a moral boost and a great tool of propaganda. What should have followed after feb 27 was follow up attacks on paki military targets by all the three arms of our military to show them we mean business but that didnt happen. And what we are doing right now will also not make any difference, ie fighting on the LoC, it never has. It seems that we have become too comfortable with the flawed notion of overwhelming conventional superiority over pakistan that accidents, mishaps, poor maintenance of equipment, management of personnel etc and relics like mig21s, 27s, t55s 72s etc still in service with the Indian armed forces dont bother us. I always had doubt over the reliability of the russian weaponry particularly A2A missiles and now reports are also coming that paki AMRAAMs out range the Indian A2A missile which is the decisive factor in BVR engagements. The Flankers can undoubtedly outmanouvre any aircraft in the world in WVR engagement but in BVR it all boils down the the range and accuracy aircrafts radar and missiles.
That's because there was india only challenge....
Lesson 1: find out expansion of SAM.
