India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

[afako]

Baba losing hope........

Initiate action within which timely event?

Declaring war?

 

[MrPresident]

Guys.. I have been a mute spectator on this thread, now just to play devil's advocate why didn't we brought the whole complex down?? Why do we need a scalpel to cut the tumor when u can cut off the whole limb?

As I see the roofs are not hardened, looks more like tin sheets/ clay. Did we really needed a penentrator round to breach them? A gravity bomb would have done the job I believe.

Killing trainers and trainees won't harm Pakistan much they have 1000 there to replace them. If IAF had brought down the whole complex atleast they would have spent money to build it all over again. I felt this worked out cheap for them.

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[aghamarshana]

I am against your opinion for censoring such speech.

Nanha mujahids will in future become Begums who may operate for Islam or give birth to more mujahids who might kill Indians in future.

I myself reminded of the Peshawar School attacks which really hit Pakistan Army.

Bro, Bangladesh and Indonesia are alrighty coz they have no rogue elements running the govt despite being Islamic. Wahhabism is the real problem and due to Identity Crisis of these Pakis,they tend to identify themselves with Arabs and their doctrines. Hence the mujahids and begums supporting them. Once we break Porkland into 4 and establish a colonial legacy governance with a strong constitution,they will definitely come to their senses and put a crackdown on those Wahhabi Maulvis. Education and Liberalisation of laws can change even a hardcore Islamic nation like Iraq. All we need is a good government setup. Children and women learn from their surroundings. It is a horrendous sin to murder them. Please reconsider ur stance and change the rhetoric. Every1 is vexed with Islamic fanatism jus like u. But, seriously,how can we even think of harming Children?!!Pls re-think ur position.

 

[sorcerer]

Tale of An OLD AMERICAN FUCKUP

US justified F-16 sale to Pakistan in 2008 as deterrence against India

NEW DELHI: Pakistan’s use of F-16s against India on February 27 has raised tough questions for Washington, which had justified the sale on grounds of not just combatting terror but also as providing “deterrence value” to Pakistan in case of a future conflict with India.

This is exactly how the then US Ambassador to Pakistan Anne Patterson had framed her embassy’s pitch for an exception to allow for diversion of American counter-terrorism financial assistance to Pakistan for purchasing F-16s and related enhancements.

The package included 500 AIM-120-C5 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAMs), remnants of one of which was recovered and exhibited as evidence by the Indian Air Force.

“An enhanced F-16 program also has deterrence value by giving Pakistan time and space to employ a conventional, rather than nuclear, reaction in the event of a future conflict with India,” wrote Patterson in her 20-paragraph communique, as disclosed by WikiLeaks, to Washington on April 24, 2008, giving reasons to justify the deal using US taxpayer money.

Those familiar with the ongoing conversation with the US told ET that India has already asked the Donald Trump administration to ascertain if the use of F-16s and AMRAAMs violated enduser conditions.

CONGRESSIONAL NOD TO DIVERT FUNDS
And if not, then New Delhi would want to know from Washington when it intends to revisit the terms. On Tuesday, the IAF put out a detailed statement on what happened on February 27, which appeared to be almost a replay of the scenario which Patterson had painted.

“During combat, use of F-16 by PAF and multiple launches of AMRAAM were conclusively observed. Prompt and correct tactical action by Su-30 aircraft, in response to AMRAAM launch, defeated the missile. Parts of the missile fell in an area east of Rajouri in J&K, injuring a civilian on ground,” the IAF said in the statement.

Back in 2008, Washington moved for Congressional approval to divert funds, essentially a subsidy, within five months of Patterson’s cable. And in his testimony on September 16, 2008, before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, admiral Jeffrey Wieringa, then director of the US Defence Security Cooperation Agency, disclosed that the Pakistan programme was structured by three Letters of Acceptance (LOAs) — first for 18 new F-16s, second for specialised munitions like the AMRAAMs, and third for mid-life update of Pakistan’s older fleet of 46 F-16s.

In the context of the use of AMRAAMs by Pakistan, admiral Wieringa’s statement seems instructive. “The second LOA provides for munitions and includes: 500 AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM, 750 Mark 84 2,000 lb general purpose bombs, 700 BLU-109 penetrator bombs…these weapons will be available to Pakistan beginning June 2010.”

India was, however, assured by the George W Bush administration that the US had ensured a stringent monitoring system on the use and deployment of F-16s. This included informing the US on deployment of these assets in an exercise or in an operation in a third country.

On July 20, 2006, around the time when the decision to resume F-16 sales to Pakistan was made, the then assistant secretary of state for military affairs John Hillen informed the same House Committee of the stringent conditions.

“There is a two-man rule, so to speak, for access to this equipment and restricted areas, and F-16 flights outside of Pakistan or participation in exercises and operations with third nations must be approved by the United States government,” he said.

The incidents of February 27 have, however, brought the whole issue back to the fore. In 2016, India had successfully blocked the effort of the Obama administration to sell eight additional F-16s to Pakistan by lobbying aggressively in the Congress.

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/68279161.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[Jaymax61]

Elections are coming. Government will not want any distraction now. Unless Pakistan wants to take this up a notch things will cool down.

Sadly the Shahaz ud din story seems to have been disapproved. Waseem ud din has 2 sons both are in not the Air Force. The real pilot is still hidden.

Also reading somewhere that the PAF actually fired a shit storm of missiles at an SU-30 which evaded them and was not allowed to fire back. . This would explain their SU-30 claim. They thought that firing all those missiles must have netted one hit.

Finally a tit bit from a serving officer on the LoC - He said and I quote - it almost went all the way. Thats all he offered and refused to say more.

 

[sorcerer]

Amid a series of ceasefire violations Defence minister to visit Jammu

Union Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman will visit the Jammu region on Thursday and will take stock of the situation of areas along the Line of Control, an army officer said. Her visit comes amid a series of ceasefire violations by Pakistan in the last few days.

https://www.devdiscourse.com/articl...re-violations-defence-minister-to-visit-jammu

 

[sorcerer]

‘RAW agency played a major role in Balakot airstrike’
Stating that RAW is a powerful agency, he said, “We basically cater to the requirements of the government on the assigned task and gather information on defence, military intelligence, terrorism and economic intelligence. RAW obtains information through various means.”

The officer opined that Article 370, which gives autonomous status to Jammu and Kashmir, should be abolished because India is facing various problems.

Read more at: https://www.deccanherald.com/raw-agency-played-major-role-721884.html

 

[Jaymax61]

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...n-kashmir-s-poonch-rajouri-1468916-2019-03-02

400 bunkers to be made in a month. Go figure

 

[sorcerer]

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...n-kashmir-s-poonch-rajouri-1468916-2019-03-02

400 bunkers to be made in a month. Go figure

Hope we captured some land is holding it for goooooood!

 

[afako]

The folks who are indoctrinating those kids are the enemy - take them out! Once u do that then the kids won’t grow up to be mujahideen!
To advocate killing little kids is horrendous. You belong to the same class of people like Hafiz Saeed & Masood Azhar!
Please change your thought process.

Don’t become emotional. You are fighting with an ideology which declares you an enemy the moment you are not born in that.

Ladies, children, oldies, handicaps no matter what the hell. Muslims are still Muslims. For every Muslim, it is only Allah. If you can get this across, good for you.

Don’t use Nazification argument.

 

[Jaymax61]

Hope we captured some land is holding it for goooooood!

Or more like the Govt feels there is more to follow

 

[Vishwarupa]

History Books:
2001- Parliament Attack
2008- Mumbai Attack
2016- Pathankot Attack
2016- Uri Attack
2017- Amarnath Yatra Attack
2019- Pulwama Attack
Pakistan: GIVE US PROOF

2016- Surgical Strike
2019- Balakot Strike
Congress: GIVE US PROOF

 

[Raweg]

‘RAW agency played a major role in Balakot airstrike’
Stating that RAW is a powerful agency, he said, “We basically cater to the requirements of the government on the assigned task and gather information on defence, military intelligence, terrorism and economic intelligence. RAW obtains information through various means.”

The officer opined that Article 370, which gives autonomous status to Jammu and Kashmir, should be abolished because India is facing various problems.

Read more at: https://www.deccanherald.com/raw-agency-played-major-role-721884.html

yes R&AW given accurate intelligence of 450+ terrorists.......but full credit to IAF for useing fussi spice 2000 bomb and 70% of terrorist got away un injured......not even any damage to building except 1 hole on top......which got repaired very quickly

 

[Darth Malgus]

I don't have access to twitter here in office, but there is a theory going on twitter the target for India's airstrikes was not terror camps at all. But Batal tunnel near Manshera which is part of the CPEC project. That is the reason I assume we used the Spice 2000 Anti personal bombs. I would assume there are not many Chinese skulls left in that tunnel.

Please read twitter post by @Leapord212, Would be nice if anyone could post the full details.

 

[ezsasa]

I don't have access to twitter here in office, but there is a theory going on twitter the target for India's airstrikes was not terror camps at all. But Batal tunnel near Manshera which is part of the CPEC project. That is the reason I assume we used the Spice 2000 Anti personal bombs. I would assume there are not many Chinese skulls left in that tunnel.

Please read twitter post by @Leapord212, Would be nice if anyone could post the full details.

Nope, we are not there yet...
we as a democracy are more vulnerable than china........

 

[Niks_12]

CPEC tunnel theory is a hogwash, to draw China into the game. If that had happened, you would have got a strong reaction by now. Also, why would GOI and armed forces lie, they are honorable unlike the dishonest Bakis.

 

[bose]

Man.. So, you are advocating genocide of 220 million people.. ?

I am advocating something very colossal by nature so that 44 lives lost can be avenged ... that may mean anything ...

those 220 millions are enemy to Indian nation ...

 

[Akhileshwa]

Elections are coming. Government will not want any distraction now. Unless Pakistan wants to take this up a notch things will cool down.

Sadly the Shahaz ud din story seems to have been disapproved. Waseem ud din has 2 sons both are in not the Air Force. The real pilot is still hidden.

Also reading somewhere that the PAF actually fired a shit storm of missiles at an SU-30 which evaded them and was not allowed to fire back. . This would explain their SU-30 claim. They thought that firing all those missiles must have netted one hit.

Finally a tit bit from a serving officer on the LoC - He said and I quote - it almost went all the way. Thats all he offered and refused to say more.

What went all the way?. Please clarify

 

[Darth Malgus]

Nope, we are not there yet...
we as a democracy are more vulnerable than china........

I suggest you look for the tweets, He is far more articulate in his explanation. He is not the sort of person to go crazy on his speculation.

 

[sorcerer]

I don't have access to twitter here in office, but there is a theory going on twitter the target for India's airstrikes was not terror camps at all. But Batal tunnel near Manshera which is part of the CPEC project. That is the reason I assume we used the Spice 2000 Anti personal bombs. I would assume there are not many Chinese skulls left in that tunnel.

Please read twitter post by @Leapord212, Would be nice if anyone could post the full details.

Very unlikely...very very unlikely..

Why should India attack a chinese infrastructure..
India has said and again said that the STRIKE IS " AGAINST TERRORISM".
Its the same thing Indian officials are telling any nation that comes to mediate the INDIA PAKISTAN PROBLEM .. We tell them there is no problem..and India is against terrorism and not against pakistan.

And if its some ones fantasy of dragging china to the equation..well!! they wont...not just them..no nation wont..
TWITTER TROLLS dont decide the geopolitics

EDIT: didnt look at the tweets yet.

But just saying..from your post sire