India-Pakistan LoC/IB Skirmishes in the Aftermath of August 5 2019

[ezsasa]

I Feel like India should Send in Covert Advisors and Special Forces Operatives To Operate Along side ANA and There SF and Commando Groups. I feel like Indian Army and Our SF lack the training and experiences Necessary to operate in highly Arid Mountainous Terrain found in inner parts of Pakjab, POK and KPK in a future war. Afghanistan will give our Special Forces the experience that need to operate these Areas and also this will help our forces to conduct operations against PorkiShitani Pakjabi Army in KPK and supporting rebel Balochi and Pashtun forces operating in Balochistan and KPK. The Terrorists Trained by Pakistan encountered in Afghanistan like Taliban and others in KPK are more dangerous than ones found in Kashmir. POK especially Gligit Baltistan is full them. So attacking and killing them now is great opportunity for India. If Afghanistan goes back to Taliban Rule everything is lost and violence in Kashmir and India as a whole will go up back to the olden days.

Pakis will simply expend their 100 men just to track and attack this team. Recover their losses from there..

Not worth it.

 

[fire starter]

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[Holy Triad]

https://www.news18.com/news/world/p...d-like-hoors-after-one-injection-2476313.html

Eeew.....eew....eeew.....

Who says such things to the people whom saved his life in the first place......

Moron.....

 

[Suryavanshi]

Another western coined bs ,
Which civilization died there?

When was the last time Afghanistan actually was self sufficient and ruled by themselves ?

Greeks rammed throught there, so did mauryas , guptas too ,kanishka did same , so did huns ,
persians ,arabs ,turks, bappa rawal ,mongols , mongols/mughal (babur and co) , Sikhs ,British , Soviet ,US .

Thing is they have nothing to offer that's why its only used as a transit point , EVEN today its used as a transit point by US .

They don't had natural resources ,fertile land or something useful for invaders to settle there permanently .

When was the last time Afghanistan was truly free with its own culture ?

When was the last time it was free from violence ,bacchabazi and Lawful state?

Even buddhism was spread there via conquest.

What is ancient afghan culture ,people , art ,food , literature etc?

All it has left is islamic leftover ,

Its a Grave alright but Grave of AFGHANS .

To cover up British Failure in Afghanistan they termed the coin Grave of Civilization.

If USA hadn't interfered during the soviet conquest, the Russian would have sent all the Talibabies to Gullags.
Cyka blyat.

 

[Deathstar]

To cover up British Failure in Afghanistan they termed the coin Grave of Civilization.

If USA hadn't interfered during the soviet conquest, the Russian would have sent all the Talibabies to Gullags.
Cyka blyat.

The reason America suffered in Afghanistan is same as in Veitnam. They didn't learn anything at all from their Vietnam debacle. Though they succeeded in their objective in Afg i.e fall of Taliban government.
Only one word Americans failed to understand : Guerilla Warfare. Overwhelming fire power doesnt work in places like Afgh and Vietnam

 

[Aaj ka hero]

if you all want to destroy Pakistan faster then I don't see any problem with this.
Of course we will lose soldiers but that will give us open opportunity to hit Pakistan from Kashmir side while holding them there on Afghan border with the help of Afghan forces.
But if we go in Afghanistan it must be under UN nothing less nothing more.
Also, I say this only if INDIA want to destroy Pakistan now.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Pakis will simply expend their 100 men just to track and attack this team. Recover their losses from there..

Not worth it.

That’s why I said Covertly. The PorkiShitani can’t take out India that fast from Afghanistan. We will use our proxies in PorkiShitan to target Pakjabi Dogs. Having Indian Presence in Afghanistan is very important. This will also alllow us to target Porki Bastards and there proxies who are growing poppy in Afghanistan which Eventually end up in eventually Indian Punjab as Drugs. India can do a lot more in Afghanistan than that we are currently doing.

 

[ezsasa]

That’s why I said Covertly. The PorkiShitani can’t take out India that fast from Afghanistan. We will use our proxies in PorkiShitan to target Pakjabi Dogs. Having Indian Presence in Afghanistan is very important. This will also alllow us to target Porki Bastards and there proxies who are growing poppy in Afghanistan which Eventually end up in eventually Indian Punjab as Drugs. India can do a lot more in Afghanistan than that we are currently doing.

There cannot be anything covert, there would be enough conflict entrepreneurs in Afghanistan who would sell info or leads for a donkey.

 

[ezsasa]

I am not saying to go there, BUt HEAR ME OUT,

What if offer was that mouth watering , meaning billions of Dollars ,that were going to pakis , POK , disintegration of pakistan , a part in poppy field business and drug cartel , Permanent seat in UN.

See, for diplomatic and other complications if NO is said its OK , But if its out of fear or lack of boldness or lack of self confidence ,then it will be disappointing.

A few thousand brits came from half a world away and you can't say those guys didn't have hearts of lions , coming from a cold place to a fertile jungle land with fabled beasts for wild life , I hate their looting killing and all but admire their guts and willingness to take risk against all insurmountable ODDS .

They have true motto for their special forces
"WHO DARES WINS"

Now i am not saying we should go in just for glory , but if PIE being offered is BIG and JUICY enough we shouldn't back down out of fear of FAILURE.


If we want to restore our BROKEN PRIDE ,we have to CONQUER again ,
Important parts of pakistan , POK , a permanent seat at big table and beautiful mountains of FATA cleansed of goat bearded men and Batwomen.

Sure...

but the concept of risk and reward would also apply.

I have been saying this for some time, issue is not whether Indian security establishment is capable of doing these things. I am sure they can, once they get the hang of it once they take the plunge.

Issue is with public support for such a move. Would public spare the govt at the time when body bags keep coming back. Even if it is covert, info will always leak.

Get public backing first, then anything is possible.

 

[sorcerer]

That’s why I said Covertly. The PorkiShitani can’t take out India that fast from Afghanistan. We will use our proxies in PorkiShitan to target Pakjabi Dogs. Having Indian Presence in Afghanistan is very important. This will also alllow us to target Porki Bastards and there proxies who are growing poppy in Afghanistan which Eventually end up in eventually Indian Punjab as Drugs. India can do a lot more in Afghanistan than that we are currently doing.

We cant risk foot soldiers in Afghan..
but..
we can have specialist covert operatives who can go after high value targets.
We can even CO Sponsor Foreign OPERATIVES to do the dirty jobs by pooling money with like minded nations in the region , if the talibs dont dance to our tunes.

I suppose that would be a safe bet.
We do have some deep roots inside afghan despite what the media vomits on it.

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Another western coined bs ,
Which civilization died there?

When was the last time Afghanistan actually was self sufficient and ruled by themselves ?

Greeks rammed throught there, so did mauryas , guptas too ,kanishka did same , so did huns ,
persians ,arabs ,turks, bappa rawal ,mongols , mongols/mughal (babur and co) from delhi continued to do so , Sikhs ,British , Soviet ,US.......Pakis or rather pakjabis.

Thing is they have nothing to offer that's why its only used as a transit point , EVEN today its used as a transit point by US .

They don't had natural resources ,fertile land or something useful for invaders to settle there permanently in past time sense .

When was the last time Afghanistan was truly free with its own culture ?

When was the last time it was free from violence ,bacchabazi and Lawful state?

Even buddhism was spread there via conquest.

What is ancient afghan culture ,people , art ,food , literature etc?

All it has left is islamic leftover ,

Its a Grave alright but Grave of AFGHANS .

I think Afghanistan is a ramped up versiy of Pakistan in that people don't want to conquer it becuz the risk to reward is too high.People are ready to conquer if they think there is something worthwhile to gain.Afghanistan as a region itself is too bad as a prize for anyone to hold on to it regardless of losses.That is why no one can conquer it becuz it's not becuz they can't but they think what will they get ultimately by securing it.

It leads to important places worthy of conquering.

In a way pakistan is also becoming like this.

A good comparison for both countries would be that they are like women who are so ugly you would not even f**k them if they presented as free f**k in front of you.

 

[ezsasa]

Ha ha , then we will always keep defending ,
Congress ,left ,jehadi parties these are not INDIAN but western ,chinrse or paki parties,

And create ruckus at NO things ,
I mean any bill good or bad gets opposed ,
And if it slightly challenges the "peaceful" exceptionality we have shaheen baghs and all .

With so much division ,mis info ,vultures etc
support will never come .

That's the game, isn't it!!!!
.

 

[sorcerer]

There cannot be anything covert, there would be enough conflict entrepreneurs in Afghanistan who would sell info or leads for a donkey.

Errmm

In the terrorism fight, Trump has continued a key Obama policy
President Donald Trump has rescinded, reversed or otherwise ended many of former President Barack Obama’s signature policies – but not a prominent one.

When it comes to fighting terrorism, the current commander-in-chief has upheld, and even extended, his predecessor’s linchpin strategy: using U.S. military special operations forces and targeted killings on a grand global scale.

This strategy is highlighted by Trump’s recent orders for the military to kill or capture al-Qaida leader Hamza bin Laden in September 2019 and Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in October 2019 – and in January 2020, for a drone strike to kill Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
https://www.econotimes.com/In-the-terrorism-fight-Trump-has-continued-a-key-Obama-policy-1573120

 

[Jameson Emoni]

The reason America suffered in Afghanistan is same as in Veitnam. They didn't learn anything at all from their Vietnam debacle. Though they succeeded in their objective in Afg i.e fall of Taliban government.
Only one word Americans failed to understand : Guerilla Warfare. Overwhelming fire power doesnt work in places like Afgh and Vietnam

If US leaves Afghanistan then Taliban will be back in power. This will bring US back to square one.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

We cant risk foot soldiers in Afghan..
but..
we can have specialist covert operatives who can go after high value targets.
We can even CO Sponsor Foreign OPERATIVES to do the dirty jobs by pooling money with like minded nations in the region , if the talibs dont dance to our tunes.

I suppose that would be a safe bet.
We do have some deep roots inside afghan despite what the media vomits on it.

That’s what I am trying to say bro sending in Advisors and Spec Ops Operatives. They are what Afghan Army and Government needs. India is the only reliable partner Afghanistan has in the area. On the outside India should continue our humanitarian Gestures but inside we should be conducting Special Operations with Afghan Commandos and SF against PorkiShitani Proxies and Pakjabi Hijada Army and Training future Afghan soldiers to fight the Taliban and ISIS Terrorists. Yes we will lose soldiers I Acknowledge that but that is an Inevitable part of any type of conflict or war. India must do Preemptive strikes in order to secure our future and our people.

 

[IndianHawk]

#LOC
This is a Taliban SF unit called Sara Kheta. They are prime suspects behind the potential USAF E-11A shoot down in AFG. Notice how well they are equipped. Look how terrorists are evolving. Potential Pak allies at LOC. Keep researching them.

Look american funding made salwar kameez into full battle gear,

So, taliban is basically paki army regiment which is way more experienced in mountain guirrella warfare and perhaps the most battle hardened regt of paki army ,
courtesy of its involvement in continuous war ,it has to be good.

Americans are killing their own soldiers just indirectly through pak-takiban funding.

It would be much more efficient to just shoot some American soldiers right there in USA when the graduate from military academy.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Sending troops to Afghanistan would be a waste for resources first we will send 300 troops then we will be forced send 1000 this is a sink whole which will milk our resources for what to maintain peace for Afghanistani chaps which are not any less extremists than napaks or any other hard-core Muslim nation. Many of Afghanistani peeps join taliban and support that ideology that's why insurgency exists.

And unlike we have troubles with equipment and stuff US forces which don't have any budget issues and logistics. issues.

In Afghanistan we will only see waste of life without any certain gains neither we have capabilities to lift people out of poverty and provide them infrastructure neither we can control all of that land.

The things which we can do is arm Afghanistan army and build better protection around borders and get better equipment to hunt down Afghanistani terrorist easily.

What will be the purpose of invading any country against terrorism and then terrorist are able to break through and do one more 26/11 type seen.
Our war is against terrorism in india and we should spend money in the same way how Chinese are spending for AI facical recognize system.

 

[Jameson Emoni]

#LOC
This is a Taliban SF unit called Sara Kheta. They are prime suspects behind the potential USAF E-11A shoot down in AFG. Notice how well they are equipped. Look how terrorists are evolving. Potential Pak allies at LOC. Keep researching them.

Look american funding made salwar kameez into full battle gear,

So, taliban is basically paki army regiment which is way more experienced in mountain guirrella warfare and perhaps the most battle hardened regt of paki army ,
courtesy of its involvement in continuous war ,it has to be good.

Yep, this is the Taliban faction which is allied with Pakistan.

 

[IndianHawk]

Sending troops to Afghanistan would be a waste for resources first we will send 300 troops then we will be forced send 1000 this is a sink whole which will milk our resources for what to maintain peace for Afghanistani chaps which are not any less extremists than napaks or any other hard-core Muslim nation. Many of Afghanistani peeps join taliban and support that ideology that's why insurgency exists.

And unlike we have troubles with equipment and stuff US forces which don't have any budget issues and logistics. issues.

In Afghanistan we will only see waste of life without any certain gains neither we have capabilities to lift people out of poverty and provide them infrastructure neither we can control all of that land.

The things which we can do is arm Afghanistan army and build better protection around borders and get better equipment to hunt down Afghanistani terrorist easily.

What will be the purpose of invading any country against terrorism and then terrorist are able to break through and do one more 26/11 type seen.
Our war is against terrorism in india and we should spend money in the same way how Chinese are spending for AI facical recognize system.

Exactly. You can't win in a country like Afghanistan unless you massacre all your opponents. But that's not acceptable these days. So you have to fight a guerilla war where public has sympathy with terrorists. It's always a loosing battle.

This is what is happening in Kashmir. It's not like we can't kill all anti Indians in Kashmir but that massacre is not acceptable in today world . So we have been forced in gurilla warfare and the onus to find actual violent jehadi among supporting peaceful jehadi is on our army. So we have to take high casualty because we can't just kill all of them and settle this like good old times .

Afghanistan is 20x Kashmir !!
Never put boots in Afghanistan unless you are ready for completed annihilation.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

#LOC
This is a Taliban SF unit called Sara Kheta. They are prime suspects behind the potential USAF E-11A shoot down in AFG. Notice how well they are equipped. Look how terrorists are evolving. Potential Pak allies at LOC. Keep researching them.

Look american funding made salwar kameez into full battle gear,

So, taliban is basically paki army regiment which is way more experienced in mountain guirrella warfare and perhaps the most battle hardened regt of paki army ,
courtesy of its involvement in continuous war ,it has to be good.

Most of these Are Chinese Knockoff Equipment bought from the Black Market after getting money through the Opium drug trade or given to them by the Porki Bastards like ISI from POF. Sometimes they have equipment captured from the Basic Afghan Army (Not the ANA Commandos or SF, which have better Equipment) which aren’t that great. Even Basic Militias located in Africa or Middle East have similar or superior equipment.

These Guys aren’t Special Forces but more like a Mix between Shock Troops/ fidayeen Terrorist operating under Guerrilla Principles. Training of these type guys are trash and can’t stand close to a comparable size special forces unit of country like US or India or even Afghanistan but they are still better than basic Mujaheeden Terrorist who only knows how to use AKs or Basic M16 or plant mines and IEDs.

The only reason they have much better success rate (which is minimal) than a normal Taliban Terrorist is that they are more aggressive/crazy, They know the Terrain and use Guerrilla tactics in a better way than normal Jihadi does. Even if I say this they are still very dangerous and must be dealt with extreme prejudice. Maybe In the Future Trashmiri Terrorists might also start looking like these Porki Proxy Terrorists.