India-Pakistan LoC/IB Skirmishes in the Aftermath of August 5 2019

[Lancer]

If war breaks out today we will have complete air superiority over Pakistan within 3-4 days.

Gaganshakti suggested it could be as early as 48 hours. The day the S400 arrives, it'll practically be air superiority from the moment hostilities open.

 

[IndianHawk]

Gaganshakti suggested it could be as early as 48 hours. The day the S400 arrives, it'll practically be air superiority from the moment hostilities open.

True most of their airforce will be destroyed on ground itself. They have too many old mirage 3 and 5 which are only good for attack role. Only f16 and some j17 can put up an air to air fight against Indian su30 , mirage , mig 29 , lca and rafale +s400.

They won't know what hit them .

 

[Bhadra]

It forced them to recognize there is no direct military victory against India ever possible . Thus they have accepted that cross border terrorism is the only way to keep Kashmir issue alive internationally. Ultimately they want others( USA and china ) intervene and force India to accept that at least pok is Pakistani and they want India to forsake it's claim on pok now.
Which we won't ever do !

Sir still he question remains _

Did it deter Pakistan from carrying out cross border terrorism ??

And
Can military means be used as effective deterrence against terrorism ?

 

[Bhadra]

After the pandemic is over (which will take anywhere from an year or two of intermittent lockdowns or outright carnage of 20% world population), the world will descend into a phase of disorder and crime like CIS states after fall of USSR.
These crimes would be more of a necessitated kind, not guided by ideologies (and foreign funds) thus definitely not terrorism but rather petty ones (drugs, human trafficking, kidnapping, chain-snatching etc).
Doing enforced Ghar Wapsi in such a world would invite maybe a reprimand or some feeble sanctions from the west or maybe not even that. Everyone is going to be busy in fixing themselves, not bothered by what the world is doing unless it directly threatens their sovereignty and/or economy.
This is a world that's going to be even less globalized than the 1900s.
It's done for.
The virus ended globalization. Probably expeditionary cowboy yahoo military powers as well.
At least I think it is.
The unemployment rates definitely point towards it.

Knowing RSS members, I realize that they do have discipline and ideological conviction.
If the government offers something like.. say... "Subedari" system while also letting them claim empty land they reside in, demography change will be fast and incredibly effecient.
If the government cooperates with RSS (as was seen with sanghis taking over some workload of the police in checking license and curfew passes on checkpoints) and sends these men to fight in PoK on the "Dharmayuddh" card without letting them get out of hand like the Porki Jihadis (The only place where I feel a Hindu's respect for authority will make life easier), it will end any resurgence of militancy in a previously cleared zone.
That will require a whole lot of work and planning though. Also, at least half a century to completely eradicate all traces of the desert cult.
It can work. China did it in ET.

As for the Kung Flu statistics, can anyone explain to me why the statistics being touted lump together the cases without outcome with the recovered cases and pit it against the number of dead to calculate fatality rate?

Shouldn't it be cases with an outcome with "recovered cases"/"number of fatalities" to calculate the fatality rate?

That's giving a 20% death rate even if we trust Chinese numbers (we don't do that here now, do we?)

Hmmmm

Futerology ???

Have a Dekho at it ... though longish but detailled if one is frounded well in Indian roots -

 

[SavageKing456]

True most of their airforce will be destroyed on ground itself. They have too many old mirage 3 and 5 which are only good for attack role. Only f16 and some j17 can put up an air to air fight against Indian su30 , mirage , mig 29 , lca and rafale +s400.

They won't know what hit them .

with the new bvr astra mk1 pakistan airforce will be destroyed

 

[HariPrasad-1]

so why do we want it back now?? And why did Nehru look like a fool in the UN
regarding Kashmir??


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinio...till-hurts-from-nehrus-blunders/#.XpXh9_1KiUk

India still hurts from Nehru's blunders

It is true but for how long shall we continue to blame Nehru? what did subsequent government do? can we ever keep on blaming Naheru without doing what need to do to resolve the issue? we should have liberated POK subsequently. Nehru is responsible but others who ruled the country after Nehru are also responsible to some extent.

 

[Bhadra]

While thinking and writing about Pakistan many of us forget the sate that country and their society is in ? May be all kind courtesy their innate sense of enmity and hostility towards India. To any ordinary observer it would be evident that their Army while ruling the country has virtually destroyed the country.

After independence having started well, having better resources, economy, agriculture and easy outside aid and help - Pakistan today stand on the verge of internal implosion, being a failed state and virtually every Abdul being under debt and all those who will be born may be twenty years hence will be born with debt burden.

They have lost half their territory, they have lost dignity of their woman, they have lost all minorities, they have made all stalwarts as Muhajir refugees, people in tribal areas are maimed and traumatized, lost quality of education, no industry , water mismanagement, drug abuse, fundamentalism of middle ages, terrorism as major employment....

Oh what does the evil Yindoos of India want ?? Yindoos and their ghosts have haunted them really very horribly... being a Paki has become an international bad word. Evil Yindoos have forced Ghar wapasi on all Pakistanis as they call themselves Indian outside Pakistan..

Come on folks .... what more do you want ? You can stop their waters and make that Sapta Sindhu in deserts. You have terrorised them sp much that they run all over the world to cry in others lap. The Pure than all other Muslims have been forced to sit on the lap of the most abhorrent Kafirs = the Chineses.

Pakistanis are bleeding from all sides and you all evil yindoos want them to hemorrhage completely,

Lamba ho gaya to khatma karta hoon....

 

[Hydra3]

@IndianHawk

Here's straight from the horse's mouth:

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If we captured, say a huge plains of sindh or punjab pakistani will definitely target our cities with nukes, then we have to use our nukes on them. But pblm us our men are already there, its like we are using nuke on our own mili.

 

[Lancer]

If we captured, say a huge plains of sindh or punjab pakistani will definitely target our cities with nukes, then we have to use our nukes on them. But pblm us our men are already there, its like we are using nuke on our own mili.

It's not that straight forward. And India's posture is to go for pre-emptive counterforce strikes at the first sign of Pakistan deploying it's nuclear weapons.

To that end we have their nuclear weapons & sites under constant surveillance with cooperation from like minded countries.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

We can keep living in denial. Hindus despite being majority lost 30% of land to minority. Normally minority loses to majority. Unless we learn we will lose more land.

This happens to an individual or a community when they are weak. We couldn't take back one Ram temple in our own Nation for 400 long years. When we became strong , Court judgement came in our favour. it is not something which court is doing for Hindus. It is increase of the unity and strength of Hindus which made this possible. if we become more stronger and United, many issues will start falling in line automatically. Bloody it took so many years for us to change the name of our holiest city which was named Allahbad.

 

[Hydra3]

Useless guys, coming here to what?
Bit skeptical about this account. Yesterday he was mentioned about IB flaring up, but proved to be false info

 

[HariPrasad-1]

That'll leave the Pakis as the sole leader of Islamic nations, and the Pakis are waiting for that very day.

Before that , Pakhi will break into many pieces. Irrespective of whether Arabs remain rich or become poor , Porkies are sure to regress as a nation and in long run it will break into many pieces.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

True most of their airforce will be destroyed on ground itself. They have too many old mirage 3 and 5 which are only good for attack role. Only f16 and some j17 can put up an air to air fight against Indian su30 , mirage , mig 29 , lca and rafale +s400.

They won't know what hit them .

Only F16s. Not JF 17..................

 

[Hydra3]

Only F16s. Not JF 17..................

Denial mode will not be effective in actual war, i don't find any reason to believe jf17 will be inferior to that our 100+ mig21s.

 

[IndiaRising]

Denial mode will not be effective in actual war, i don't find any reason to believe jf17 will be inferior to that our 100+ mig21s.

8 JF-17s couldn't do shyte to 2 M2Ks.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Hindus are already majority in South Asia.
Muzzie are 150million in Bangladesh (15 million are hindus.) 220million in porkistan and 200 mil in India + change in Nepal Maldives Mauritius and srilanka.

Total 600 million approx.

Hindus are upwards of 1billion .

On top of that Bangladesh fertility is lower than India their population is stagnating and will start declining much before India. Indian muzzie population is also approaching fertility rate.

Only porky are growing much faster. But still they won't be able to outnumber Hindus .

We have to shun defeatists mindset. If shivaji thought like this maratha empire wouldn't have risen. Afterall it was too easy to bow down the mugals . But he chose to fight and his inspiration stopped further converting .

Pakistani and Indian Muslims are enough to compensate that. Their population projections are double to triple of today by mid century.

And let's leave that, even if they make 40% (they'll most likely be 60% though), would you be able to run an Akhand Bharat with 40% Muslims?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

It is true but for how long shall we continue to blame Nehru? what did subsequent government do? can we ever keep on blaming Naheru without doing what need to do to resolve the issue? we should have liberated POK subsequently. Nehru is responsible but others who ruled the country after Nehru are also responsible to some extent.

Very true there never has been a nationalistic government in India until recently.
Even after four wars we could not reverse the damage because
a lot of it was legislated and made into laws article 370 , Indus water treaty etc.... what country
gives 80 Percent of their water supply to their enemies??? Still not reversed


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[ashdoc]

We can keep living in denial. Hindus despite being majority lost 30% of land to minority. Normally minority loses to majority. Unless we learn we will lose more land.

Yes but at least many Indians did not convert to Islam like Iranians who were zoroastrians , Afghans who were Buddhists , Pakistanis who were Hindus , arabs who were pagans , Syrians and Egyptians who were Christians.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

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This is a issue....
Pakistani is focusing to send fully trained and armed jihadi in india.

 

[Hydra3]

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This is a issue....
Pakistani is focusing to send fully trained and armed jihadi in india.

If they are sending guys with these gears, it should not considered as terrorist act. Its mere a military action in civilian dress.