India-Pakistan LoC/IB Skirmishes in the Aftermath of August 5 2019

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Wtf . You are falling for Western propaganda. Nothing is guaranteed in future. Not the stability of USA not unity in china.

China will anyway take western Pacific unless china is disintegrated. Because even with economic stagnation china still will be much bigger economy than USA. That boat has sailed. The only way USA can compete in western Pacific is with alliance system. That is why it's so desperate for qaud with India.

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I have not seen anything that indicates that US is desperate for an alliance (quad) with India. I personally do not think India figures that much in US calculations.
 

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Big breaking: Encounter starts in Parigam Awantipora, 3 jaish terrorist trapped.

Top commander of jaish trapped in encounter.

Qari Yasir top terrorist suspected tl be trapped.


This is second encounter in same area.


Qari yasir trapped in encounter in tral. 130, bn crpf, 3 RR and JKP on job.


A Pakistani terrorist, he is mastermind of civilian killing including Kohli Gujjar brothers killing post Aug5.


Fierce encounter on.


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#Breaking 1 Pakistan sponsored terrorist killed in ongoing Awantipora encounter,

few more are in que.

More power to

@adgpi




 
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I have not seen anything that indicates that US is desperate for an alliance (quad) with India. I personally do not think India figures that much in US calculations.
Why has than USA been pushing all these foundational agreement even when Indian have heavily modified them USA still accepted that. All these lamoa , comcasa etc.

What is the necessity if not an alliance. USA very well wants a alliance just with India limited as a junior partner not an equal stakeholder.
 

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I have to agree with Bhumihar bro on this.

We all were operating under the assumption that US most likely rescue Pakis. We already knew that when the Iran conflict started.

Why are we getting scared now that it's actually happening?

Anyway, look at our Missile programme. Did we not achieve so much due to sanctions? I bet that we will get a boost in defence sector as a whole if we get blocked from buying stuff.
Sanctions have never blocked India in the Past and Never will in the Future. The French and Russians are always willing partners. Russia doesn’t give a one bit of shit about American sanctions in the past or present and have circumvented them multiple times in the past without much problems. Having a AK-203 Factory in India with partnership with Russia was excellent idea by modi government. In if sanctioned by the Americans for some bullShit Reason India will still have guns to fight with made in India.
 

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Are bhai my post was not targeted at any particular member and if u check my posting history u can see that I've raiesd doubts about Pakistan Balkanization prophecy.

We already knew USA doesn't want to see us at a position or strength, murica threw the FTFA bone and we tool it like a good dog and behaved.
I am all for self strengthening and self reliance don't wanna depend on others too much.

USA will respect us when we begin to respect ourselves.
There is false Notion here. Making indigenous weapons won’t make Americans respect Indians bro. There many countries in the world who buy weapons from the outside and still are in a good standing with Americans. If you want Americans to respect India. India needs to project power and strength outside of its borders. I am not saying Indigenous weapons are a bad thing but we must also project our influence and image outside of our region.
 

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Why has than USA been pushing all these foundational agreement even when Indian have heavily modified them USA still accepted that. All these lamoa , comcasa etc.

What is the necessity if not an alliance. USA very well wants a alliance just with India limited as a junior partner not an equal stakeholder.
Exactly... US wants a formal alliance with India, as as a junior partner, before India becomes too big.. So, that the US can shape India's rise... It's pretty obvious actually...
 

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Article Talks about PLA ‘s Biological Warfare
Division‘s involvement in the creation of this new Deadly Virus that is Spreading all over the world Right now putting in risk millions of people around the world including Indians.




In this photo released by China’s Xinhua News Agency, a medical worker writes their colleague’s name on a protective suit to aid in identification as they work at Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University in Wuhan in central China’s Hubei Province, ... more >

Virus-hit Wuhan has two laboratories linked to Chinese bio-warfare program

Virology institute there has China's only secure lab for studying deadly viruse

By Bill Gertz - The Washington Times - Friday, January 24, 2020

The deadly animal virus epidemic spreading globally may have originated in a Wuhan laboratory linked to China’s covert biological weapons program, according to an Israeli biological warfare expert.

Radio Free Asia this week rebroadcast a local Wuhan television report from 2015 showing China’s most advanced virus research laboratory known the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Radio Free Asia reported.

The laboratory is the only declared site in Chinacapable of working with deadly viruses.

Dany Shoham, a former Israeli military intelligence officer who has studied Chinese bio warfare, said the institute is linked to Beijing’s covert biological weapons program.

“Certain laboratories in the institute have probably been engaged, in terms of research and development, in Chinese [biological weapons], at least collaterally, yet not as a principal facility of the Chinese BW alignment,” Mr. Shoham told The Washington Times.

Work on biological weapons is conducted as part of a dual civilian-military research and is “definitely covert,” he said in an email.

Mr. Shoham holds a doctorate in medical microbiology. From 1970 to 1991 he was a senior analyst with Israeli military intelligence for biological and chemical warfare in the Middle East and worldwide, holding the rank of lieutenant colonel.

China in the past has denied having any offensive biological weapons. The State Department, in a report last year, said it suspects China has engaged in covert biological warfare work.

A Chinese Embassy spokesman did not return an email seeking comment.

Chinese authorities so far have said the origin of the coronavirus that has killed scores and infected hundreds in in central Hubei Province is not known.

Gao Fu, director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, told state-controlled media initial signs as of Thursday indicated the virus originated from wild animals sold at a seafood market in Wuhan.

One ominous sign, said a U.S. official, is the that false rumors since the outbreak began several weeks ago have begun circulating on the Chinese Internet claiming the virus is part of a U.S. conspiracy to spread germ weapons.

That could indicate China is preparing propaganda outlets to counter future charges the new virus escaped from one of Wuhan’s civilian or defense research laboratories.

The World Health Organization is calling the microbe novel coronavirus 2019-nCoV. At a meeting in Geneva Thursday, the organization stopped short of declaring a Public Health Emergency of International Concern.

The virus outbreak causes pneumonia-like symptoms and prompted China to deploy military forces to Wuhan this week in a bid to halt the spread. All travel out of the city of 11 million people was halted.

The Wuhan institute has studied coronaviruses in the past, including the including the strain that causes Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or SARS, H5N1 influenza virus, Japanese encephalitis, and dengue. Researchers at the institute also studied the germ that causes anthrax – a biological agent once developed in Russia.

“Coronaviruses (particularly SARS) have been studied in the institute and are probably held therein,” he said. “SARS is included within the Chinese BW program, at large, and is dealt with in several pertinent facilities.”

It is not known if the institute’s array of coronaviruses are specifically included in biological weapons program but it is possible, he said.

Asked if the new coronavirus may have leaked, Mr. Shoham said: “In principle, outward virus infiltration might take place either as leakage or as an indoor unnoticed infection of a person that normally went out of the concerned facility. This could have been the case with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but so far there isn’t evidence or indication for such incident.”

After researchers sequence of the genome of the new coronavirus it might be possible to determine or suggest its origin or source.

Mr. Shoham, now with the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar Ilan University in Israel, said the virology institute is the only declared site in China known as P4 for Pathogen Level 4, a status indicating it uses the strictest safety standards to prevent the spread of the most dangerous and exotic microbes being studied.

The former Israeli military intelligence doctor also said suspicions were raised about the Wuhan Institute of Virology when a group of Chinese virologists working in Canada improperly sent samples to China of what he said were some of the deadliest viruses on earth, including the Ebola virus.

In a July article in the journal Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, Mr. Shohamsaid the Wuhan institute was one of four Chinese laboratories engaged in some aspects of the biological weapons development.

He identified the secure Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory at the institute as engaged in research on the Ebola, Nipah, and Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever viruses.

The Wuhan virology institute is under the Chinese Academy of Sciences. But certain laboratories within it “have linkage with the PLA or BW-related elements within the Chinese defense establishment,” he said.

In 1993, China declared a second facility, the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products, as one of eight biological warfare research facilities covered by the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC) which China joined in 1985.

The Wuhan Institute of Biological Products is a civilian facility but is linked to the Chinese defense establishment, and has been regarded to be involved in the Chinese BW program, Mr. Shoham said.

China’s vaccine against SARS is probably produced there.

“This means the SARS virus is held and propagated there, but it is not a new coronavirus, unless the wild type has been modified, which is not known and cannot be speculated at the moment,” he said.

The annual State Department report on arms treaty compliance stated last year that Chinaengaged in activities that could support biological warfare.

“Information indicates that the People’s Republic of China engaged during the reporting period in biological activities with potential dual-use applications, which raises concerns regarding its compliance with the BWC,” the report said, adding that the United States suspects China failed to eliminate its biological warfare program as required by the treaty.
 
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Exactly... US wants a formal alliance with India, as as a junior partner, before India becomes too big.. So, that the US can shape India's rise... It's pretty obvious actually...
US thinks it can shape Indian rise. But that's a miscalculation on their part. India will chose its own path as evident by rise of Modi and hindutva despite all resistance from USA deep state and the likes of killary Clinton.

Hell USA is not sure about it's own path anymore with rise of trump and his transactional politics. USA is now a opportunistic power rather than some grand visionary leader.

The future is already here and it's very interesting.
 
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