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Dude, no one gives a fuck about DFI. May sound harsh, but forums like bharat rakshak MIGHT get some people from the upper echelons. The Maoists have guidance from places like JNU and other Urban Naxals, who are much more devious.
Yes and No. Military forums don't have much of stature (and they shouldn't either given what kind of thoughts "elites" of a country have). DFI is yet anyway significant within India even if not upto Bharat Rakshak. Integrated Defense Staff and Indian army commands' accounts, journalists and politicians follow BRF, DFI and Strategic Front on social media in large numbers for a reason.
 

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Yes and No. Military forums don't have much of stature (and they shouldn't either given what kind of thoughts "elites" of a country have). DFI is yet anyway significant within India even if not upto Bharat Rakshak. Integrated Defense Staff and Indian army commands' accounts, journalists and politicians follow BRF, DFI and Strategic Front on social media in large numbers for a reason.
Really? Please name a few who follows DFI, one name is Ebhijeet Iyer Mitra, I’ve seen his reports having pics sourced from DFI so I know it.
 

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Amid worsening pandemic situation, Pakistan's anti India activities continues | India News - Times of India
GURDASPUR : Three ISI backed Pakistan intruders attempted to infiltrate into India from the Gurdaspur sector on Wednesday night but they had to flee after Border Security Force (BSF) troops opened fire at them.
A BSF official who didn’t want to be named informed that during the intervening night of April 21 and 22, the BSF troops deployed in the Gurdaspur sector along the Pathankot district foiled an intrusion bid made by three Pakistanis.

"Our jawans noticed suspicious movement at around 10 pm on Wednesday night and warned the intruders but when they didn’t give any heed to BSF’s warning. After that our troops opened fire which forced them to retreat", said a BSF official.
He informed that during a search operation conducted on Thursday, the footprints of three Pakistanis were found near river Ujh.

n December 2020 police had recovered 11 Austrian grenades which were air dropped in Salach village near Dorangala town of Gurdaspur district. Two days after airdropping of the ammunition, police had recovered an AK 47 rifle, and ammunition from a mustard field in Wazirpur village which was also believed to be airdropped by drones originating from Pakistan, he added.




UAE mediating peace offer for ISI to infiltrate terrorists from pakistan?
 

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But still umricans like to shoot own foot with pakistan

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some times i give a thought about why big powers do what they do, looks ridiculous to us.

more often than not I arrive at the conclusion that, if they don’t take risks their system will collapse. simply put they do these things to keep the gears of their massive machine continuously running. Sometimes they succeed, sometimes they loose, but always retaining influence simply because of the money that keeps circulating.

China too has reached that stage, India obviously hasn’t.

same thing with pak too.
 

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some times i give a thought about why big powers do what they do, looks ridiculous to us.

more often than not I arrive at the conclusion that, if they don’t take risks their system will collapse. simply put they do these things to keep the gears of their massive machine continuously running. Sometimes they succeed, sometimes they loose, but always retaining influence simply because of the money that keeps circulating.

China too has reached that stage, India obviously hasn’t.

same thing with pak too.
True...
the Giant ponzi scheme of running the govt casino
 

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Porkis in 1947 fought for Islam and they partitioned the country.
Porkis fought for Islam in Afghanistan.
Porkis fought for Islam in Kashmir for 70 years
Porkis are fighting inside their country for Islam in 2021.
on a serious note,if you look critically at pakistan,that is at all the relevant stats and the future path they will follow in pakistan,there is not much a 21st century type nationalist would feel proud of or proud that they are going to solve some issues in the future.so evry type of person is sort of forced to follow the path of serving islam as it is the most obvious pole sticking out and also there lack any other light coming from any other tunnels.those other paths were either completely closed or are about to close due to actions sometimes taken decades ago and have calcified.

think of pakistan as the girl who is a feminist and hates her country and men and does not want to have children.she grows up and becomes the typical woke type,she does not develop any desirable characteristics such as beauty,homemaking skills,personality.etc that may attract a man and then also does not secure a job due to her self destructive activism life.now she is above 35 and cannot have marriage and children even if she wanted to so she copes by continuing her path and spreading her misery and also probably trying to get a job as an activist journalist making articles like what you would expect.basically all paths have been closed so follow the same path you had been following anyways and keep calm.

pakistan has no choice now but to be the fort of islam that it itself typecasted into (while consisting of some south asian and some central asian population) and do all the shenanigans regarding this assumed role while other more genuinely authentic islamic countries like arabs and even turks are more secure.the average pakistani if they have self awareness(most do not) have not much else to look forward to if you define it in terms of what nationalists and developmentalists would consider good.

its going to get much worse,i am talking present syria civil war bad.
 

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Porkis in 1947 fought for Islam and they partitioned the country.
Porkis fought for Islam in Afghanistan.
Porkis fought for Islam in Kashmir.
Porkis are fighting inside their country for Islam in 2021
True Islam is unending Jihad for Allah till you live, because eventually you'll also find fellow Namazis to be kuffars/apostates.

The average Paki thulla being tortured by TLP walas would also normally put his ass in the air and forehead on the ground 5 times a day, he too would keep the Ramzan fast and repeat the the whole "There is no god but Allah, Mo...." credo that they have.

Yet the cops were deemed Yahood agints by the holier TLP walas.
 

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on a serious note,if you look critically at pakistan,that is at all the relevant stats and the future path they will follow in pakistan,there is not much a 21st century type nationalist would feel proud of or proud that they are going to solve some issues in the future.so evry type of person is sort of forced to follow the path of serving islam as it is the most obvious pole sticking out and also there lack any other light coming from any other tunnels.those other paths were either completely closed or are about to close due to actions sometimes taken decades ago and have calcified.

think of pakistan as the girl who is a feminist and hates her country and men and does not want to have children.she grows up and becomes the typical woke type,she does not develop any desirable characteristics such as beauty,homemaking skills,personality.etc that may attract a man and then also does not secure a job due to her self destructive activism life.now she is above 35 and cannot have marriage and children even if she wanted to so she copes by continuing her path and spreading her misery and also probably trying to get a job as an activist journalist making articles like what you would expect.basically all paths have been closed so follow the same path you had been following anyways and keep calm.

pakistan has no choice now but to be the fort of islam that it itself typecasted into (while consisting of some south asian and some central asian population) and do all the shenanigans regarding this assumed role while other more genuinely authentic islamic countries like arabs and even turks are more secure.the average pakistani if they have self awareness(most do not) have not much else to look forward to if you define it in terms of what nationalists and developmentalists would consider good.

its going to get much worse,i am talking present syria civil war bad.
you can compare this with other major countries,all others are either on their own path of modernization however slow(saudi arabia,uae,qata,etc),some are devestated by civil war so much already that they dont have apetite for flowery ummah chummah utopias via islam inspired political movements and violent military expansionary conquests(syria,iraq,lebanon,etc),some have already diluted islam beyond a point making them not good or atleast perfect foot soldiers for the islamic memeplex and by crippling their own birth rates via development(indonesia,malaysia,iran,central asian post ussr muslim countries,etc).

the only parallel for pakistan is some failed state african muslim majority shitholes and afghanistan.

ofcourse all those countries can relapse via the emergency relapse code written into the coding of the islam program that activates when the drones get a a suspicious whiff that their highest authorities are not running the countries according to more fundamental(or atleast fundamental enough for the momin in question) and pure version of islam and be a vector and initiate a iSlaMiC sPrInG (arab spring,iranian revolution,saudi arabia mosque incident,etc) incident to dial back the progress or go back to a percieved better time.

but atleast these countries have the opportunity and can see the light at the end of the tunnel,pakistan on the other hand has never even seen the entrance of teh tunnela nd it is blocked of by tonnes of granite rock.it would require a tonnel borer of an ataturk like greatman accompanied by his own personal ss squads(immune to the islam meme themselves) to drag pakistan towards any semblance of across the board modernism.
 
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True Islam is unending Jihad for Allah till you live, because eventually you'll also find fellow Namazis to be kuffars/apostates.

The average Paki thulla being tortured by TLP walas would also normally put his ass in the air and forehead on the ground 5 times a day, he too would keep the Ramzan fast and repeat the the whole "There is no god but Allah, Mo...." credo that they have.

Yet the cops were deemed Yahood agints by the holier TLP walas.
Chutiya half dyks.

The fault in the argument is the premise that trooo moooslame would never kill another moooslame. Infact those peeeee d pus mods who keep doing randi rona about islamophobia or shitlame is tolerant will be the first to be slaughtered like the pigs they are as soon as they land inside any safe shitlamic hugbox in Syria or afghanistan or libya or any other shariah shithole hotspots.

Historically that ali and aisha even sent armies against each other a few years after muhammad died, resulting in the deaths of hundres thousand mooslames, including 600 personally ordered put to death at the grand mosque in Basra by the "mother of moooslames."

The 'other' mooslames are clearly categorised in al kitab with the word fasiqoon.
 

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on a serious note,if you look critically at pakistan,that is at all the relevant stats and the future path they will follow in pakistan,there is not much a 21st century type nationalist would feel proud of or proud that they are going to solve some issues in the future.so evry type of person is sort of forced to follow the path of serving islam as it is the most obvious pole sticking out and also there lack any other light coming from any other tunnels.those other paths were either completely closed or are about to close due to actions sometimes taken decades ago and have calcified.

think of pakistan as the girl who is a feminist and hates her country and men and does not want to have children.she grows up and becomes the typical woke type,she does not develop any desirable characteristics such as beauty,homemaking skills,personality.etc that may attract a man and then also does not secure a job due to her self destructive activism life.now she is above 35 and cannot have marriage and children even if she wanted to so she copes by continuing her path and spreading her misery and also probably trying to get a job as an activist journalist making articles like what you would expect.basically all paths have been closed so follow the same path you had been following anyways and keep calm.

pakistan has no choice now but to be the fort of islam that it itself typecasted into (while consisting of some south asian and some central asian population) and do all the shenanigans regarding this assumed role while other more genuinely authentic islamic countries like arabs and even turks are more secure.the average pakistani if they have self awareness(most do not) have not much else to look forward to if you define it in terms of what nationalists and developmentalists would consider good.

its going to get much worse,i am talking present syria civil war bad.
I would have agreed with everything you stated Rassil bhau EXCEPT for the last part. Pakistan will never be allowed to collapse, even by our own country. The 2 reasons are that other major powers like them to keep a check on India(what India is to China, Pakistan is for India), and the others are Paki nukes and their massive, radicalized population. If there was a civil war like Syria, where would the people of Pakistan go? To the east are the deserts of Balochistan, KP is practically not feasible, and the Thar and Kutch are desert-like or swamped. Paki Punjab, having the most population, will spill over into Indian Punjab. This problem is compounded by the presence of Paki nukes which are not adequately guarded. If India is able to conduct airstrikes so deep in the Paki mainland with little to no repercussion, if the US is able to launch a raid on a city 50 km from Islamabad, and liberators/terrorists/whatever can attack major bases like Wah, Gwadar and Sargodha and hold them to siege for hours(these bases have been chosen intentionally among many others as they contain Paki nukes), what prevents some other j!hadist group from taking over their nukes? Can India either denuclearize Pak or bear a minimal impact of Paki nukes? Can India prevent a Paki refugee crisis which would make Syria seem like child's play? The day India can achieve these capabilities, a Syria-like civil war in Pakistan isn't in our interests.


Balochistan should be freed. A lower population+massive resources makes it prime for liberation. However, a gradual program of liberalism, removal of Islam!st ideologies and communism should be introduced in Pak. Follow this with a demographic change on the border areas and ghar-wapsis on a mass scale. I had recently posted an article in the thread "Practical ideas for freeing Balochistan and Sindh" to detail a feasible and long-term, but sure-fire plan to take over all of Pakistan and removal of all !slam!ic influences from the country.
 

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I would have agreed with everything you stated Rassil bhau EXCEPT for the last part. Pakistan will never be allowed to collapse, even by our own country. The 2 reasons are that other major powers like them to keep a check on India(what India is to China, Pakistan is for India), and the others are Paki nukes and their massive, radicalized population. If there was a civil war like Syria, where would the people of Pakistan go? To the east are the deserts of Balochistan, KP is practically not feasible, and the Thar and Kutch are desert-like or swamped. Paki Punjab, having the most population, will spill over into Indian Punjab. This problem is compounded by the presence of Paki nukes which are not adequately guarded. If India is able to conduct airstrikes so deep in the Paki mainland with little to no repercussion, if the US is able to launch a raid on a city 50 km from Islamabad, and liberators/terrorists/whatever can attack major bases like Wah, Gwadar and Sargodha and hold them to siege for hours(these bases have been chosen intentionally among many others as they contain Paki nukes), what prevents some other j!hadist group from taking over their nukes? Can India either denuclearize Pak or bear a minimal impact of Paki nukes? Can India prevent a Paki refugee crisis which would make Syria seem like child's play? The day India can achieve these capabilities, a Syria-like civil war in Pakistan isn't in our interests.


Balochistan should be freed. A lower population+massive resources makes it prime for liberation. However, a gradual program of liberalism, removal of Islam!st ideologies and communism should be introduced in Pak. Follow this with a demographic change on the border areas and ghar-wapsis on a mass scale. I had recently posted an article in the thread "Practical ideas for freeing Balochistan and Sindh" to detail a feasible and long-term, but sure-fire plan to take over all of Pakistan and removal of all !slam!ic influences from the country.
I see another possibility other than collapse.
1. Fragmentation
2. A East-West Germany situation. These very same nukes can be used as excuse to exercise invasion and control.
 

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I see another possibility other than collapse.
1. Fragmentation
2. A East-West Germany situation. These very same nukes can be used as excuse to exercise invasion and control.
1. Fragmentation for a nation like Pak would be too bloody. Again, a Syrian civil war type. The split of the Soviet Union was a very unlikely event which happened solely due to the fact that a weak leader was able to hold on to power even after a coup event by the Army, and the people were opposed to being oppressed. We don not want a Syrian civil war type situation on our borders.

2. Sure. But can India take control of Paki nukes? Can it ensure their safety from !slamist hands? If some nukes are captured, can India protect its major cities from being nuked? If we just capture Punjab on some chance, can we handle just 100 million highly radicalized people willing to blow themselves up? These aren't rhetorical questions btw, I genuinely want to know if these are possible. There are American plans for securing Paki nukes, but the rest of the questions, I don't know. Could India handle an influx of tens of millions of Musl!ms?
 

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I would have agreed with everything you stated Rassil bhau EXCEPT for the last part. Pakistan will never be allowed to collapse, even by our own country. The 2 reasons are that other major powers like them to keep a check on India(what India is to China, Pakistan is for India), and the others are Paki nukes and their massive, radicalized population. If there was a civil war like Syria, where would the people of Pakistan go? To the east are the deserts of Balochistan, KP is practically not feasible, and the Thar and Kutch are desert-like or swamped. Paki Punjab, having the most population, will spill over into Indian Punjab. This problem is compounded by the presence of Paki nukes which are not adequately guarded. If India is able to conduct airstrikes so deep in the Paki mainland with little to no repercussion, if the US is able to launch a raid on a city 50 km from Islamabad, and liberators/terrorists/whatever can attack major bases like Wah, Gwadar and Sargodha and hold them to siege for hours(these bases have been chosen intentionally among many others as they contain Paki nukes), what prevents some other j!hadist group from taking over their nukes? Can India either denuclearize Pak or bear a minimal impact of Paki nukes? Can India prevent a Paki refugee crisis which would make Syria seem like child's play? The day India can achieve these capabilities, a Syria-like civil war in Pakistan isn't in our interests.


Balochistan should be freed. A lower population+massive resources makes it prime for liberation. However, a gradual program of liberalism, removal of Islam!st ideologies and communism should be introduced in Pak. Follow this with a demographic change on the border areas and ghar-wapsis on a mass scale. I had recently posted an article in the thread "Practical ideas for freeing Balochistan and Sindh" to detail a feasible and long-term, but sure-fire plan to take over all of Pakistan and removal of all !slam!ic influences from the country.
there is no possibility of deradicalization of the paki population.who will first of aall deraadicalize them,why should they do it under the umbrella of death.if they come out openly,they will be killed.do it covertly and they will be found out fast and then killed.the usual forces of military that can be leveraged for deradicalization in other countries cant be used here for obvious reasons.
 

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