India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[Maitreya Shyam]

Israelis are surrounded by hostile elements, they're basically fighting for their survival, as on the case of the 6 day war, any sign of weakness and the Arabs take it as call for attack, these conditions mentored the Israelis into the cunning bastards they are today
They know how to defend their interests unlike "some" others

And here in india the problem is left gang that's all they will always going to question every single move of indian army

 

[yourgodisweak]

Just a thought...

We usually lament that india's strategic doctrine is defensive in nature.

isn't it the case that even pakistan's strategic doctrine is defensive in nature too. other than India they never actually went to war with anyone else as a state. few oddities exist like Zia massacring Palestinians on behalf of Jordan and Raheel Sharif hired by Saudi's for massacring yemenis .

Can it be said that pakistan also has a defensive doctrine, contrary to what pakis think about themselves in their heads?

Their strategic doctrine is to loot & open pizza stores in America. When shit hits fan, they all will be the first one to fly to the west. The real strategic doctrine of pakistan is only known by hafeez saeed & masood azhar, i aint even kidding.

 

[Tactical Doge]

And here in india the problem is left gang that's all they will always going to question every single move of indian army

Well actually no
They'll be questioning every single decision of the RW political leadership, since the easy way to discredit Mudi Ji is to discredit their own motherland and the people guarding the motherland

 

[FalconSlayers]

You defended it, right?

What’s wrong, a few fake pilots are in every airline in the world irrespective of the country, Pakistanis had more than 1/3rd of their pilots fake in PIA so they got smacked from across the world.

 

[FalconSlayers]

really admire what Israel is doing against Iran. Wonder why India never did anything against Pakistan???

Israel is waiting when NATO invades Iran, Israel is till the time cracking his fingers before the fight.

 

[shade]

Their strategic doctrine is to loot & open pizza stores in America. When shit hits fan, they all will be the first one to fly to the west. The real strategic doctrine of pakistan is only known by hafeez saeed & masood azhar, i aint even kidding.

This.
Most Jernails and/or their family have secret British/Canadian dual-citizenship.
In truth it is the unlimited dumeel jihadi population of that shithole that is the actual threat

 

[FalconSlayers]

Just a thought...

We usually lament that india's strategic doctrine is defensive in nature.

isn't it the case that even pakistan's strategic doctrine is defensive in nature too. other than India they never actually went to war with anyone else as a state. few oddities exist like Zia massacring Palestinians on behalf of Jordan and Raheel Sharif hired by Saudi's for massacring yemenis .

Can it be said that pakistan also has a defensive doctrine, contrary to what pakis think about themselves in their heads?

I disagree, I would like to point out their doctrine.
1. Proxy warfare: weaken your enemy.
2. Geurilla Warfare at strategic level: usually geurilla warfare is done in tactical levels like ambushing a small unit and then retreat, Pakistan does it at strategic level, they will attack you just the way they did in 1971 Operation Chengiz Khan, and then retreat and fight a defensive war also similar to 1965 Operation Gibraltar misadventure.

3. Social Media warfare: Y’all know what ISPR did, posting some pics of their suspended fake accounts.
This Irmak Idoya was such a deepfake created during the border dispute between India and Nepal regarding Lipulekh and Kalapani to create a rift between Indians and Nepalis, and at the end when all of this dispute went stale, he started retweeting Gwadar and CPEC related tweets. And the SAUSMF you see is the mother organisation by ISPR for all these fake accounts. And not just Nepalis, they created fake accounts of multiple nationalities like Russia, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan and Sri Lanka and some Indian too with DPs of poiticians of the respected countries as propaganda tools against India to create rifts between the common people, remember that Michail Boris fake account now suspended? It was also Pakistani. And hundreds of fake Khalistani accounts too that appeared during farmers protest to create rift between Indian Sikhs and other Indians, the one I posted is old but you guys do remember the fake sikh accounts in which a guy wrote, Sorry Jinnah we made a mistake not joining Pakistan with a pic of a policeman waiving his stick at an elder sikh farmer (he was not hit by the stick just a scare attempt by policeman) and all of Pakistanis were liking and retweeting it no Indian Sikh gave a fck to that, and it got 40+ thousand likes and thousands of retweets all by Pakistanis.

4. International Propaganda and lobbying and causing riots like Delhi and Bangalore.

5. Economic warfare, Pakistanis smuggle fake currency in India from Nepal to create high inflations, and not just fake currency but drugs too, Punjab has suffered and as a Kashmiri who lives in Kashmir, let me personally tell you that the erstwhile drug condition of our Punjab is now partially visible in Kashmir too with young kids getting addicted, and you recently saw that a few bunch of people were arrested who were on payroll of ISI or some junior organisation of Pakistan to set shops on fire and cause huge economic damages to us.


Pretty much according to my understanding, Pak military is not a fighting force, they run pizza shops and grocery items factories, airlines and real estate businesses. It is a money making mindset businessforce.

 

[Ayushraj]

Just a thought...

We usually lament that india's strategic doctrine is defensive in nature.

isn't it the case that even pakistan's strategic doctrine is defensive in nature too. other than India they never actually went to war with anyone else as a state. few oddities exist like Zia massacring Palestinians on behalf of Jordan and Raheel Sharif hired by Saudi's for massacring yemenis .

Can it be said that pakistan also has a defensive doctrine, contrary to what pakis think about themselves in their heads?

Porkis doctrine has been divided into 2 parts. Considering kashmir and India as 2 different entity.
For Kashmir:they have offensive doctrine.they was to have tactical edge in initial stage of conflict by using irregular and regular forces and gaining a subsequent edge over India in Kashmir.
For India :their doctrine is defensive in nature always.
They are mostly focussed in defending their big cities near border

 

[Ayushraj]

really admire what Israel is doing against Iran. Wonder why India never did anything against Pakistan???

India is not able to do things Israel.
Since India dosent invest on primary education. Our secondary education is only theoretical based but countries like Israel, Germany, etc education is practical based.
Israelites are also human.
Invest on your human capital and education. Then see what wonder Indians can do field of cyber warfare

 

[yourgodisweak]

Porkis doctrine has been divided into 2 parts. Considering kashmir and India as 2 different entity.
For Kashmir:they have offensive doctrine.they was to have tactical edge in initial stage of conflict by using irregular and regular forces and gaining a subsequent edge over India in Kashmir.
For India :their doctrine is defensive in nature always.
They are mostly focussed in defending their big cities near border

Defend from who?

 

[yourgodisweak]

I disagree, I would like to point out their doctrine.
1. Proxy warfare: weaken your enemy.
2. Geurilla Warfare at strategic level: usually geurilla warfare is done in tactical levels like ambushing a small unit and then retreat, Pakistan does it at strategic level, they will attack you just the way they did in 1971 Operation Chengiz Khan, and then retreat and fight a defensive war also similar to 1965 Operation Gibraltar misadventure.

3. Social Media warfare: Y’all know what ISPR did, posting some pics of their suspended fake accounts.
This Irmak Idoya was such a deepfake created during the border dispute between India and Nepal regarding Lipulekh and Kalapani to create a rift between Indians and Nepalis, and at the end when all of this dispute went stale, he started retweeting Gwadar and CPEC related tweets. And the SAUSMF you see is the mother organisation by ISPR for all these fake accounts. And not just Nepalis, they created fake accounts of multiple nationalities like Russia, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan and Sri Lanka and some Indian too with DPs of poiticians of the respected countries as propaganda tools against India to create rifts between the common people, remember that Michail Boris fake account now suspended? It was also Pakistani. And hundreds of fake Khalistani accounts too that appeared during farmers protest to create rift between Indian Sikhs and other Indians, the one I posted is old but you guys do remember the fake sikh accounts in which a guy wrote, Sorry Jinnah we made a mistake not joining Pakistan with a pic of a policeman waiving his stick at an elder sikh farmer (he was not hit by the stick just a scare attempt by policeman) and all of Pakistanis were liking and retweeting it no Indian Sikh gave a fck to that, and it got 40+ thousand likes and thousands of retweets all by Pakistanis.
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4. International Propaganda and lobbying and causing riots like Delhi and Bangalore.

5. Economic warfare, Pakistanis smuggle fake currency in India from Nepal to create high inflations, and not just fake currency but drugs too, Punjab has suffered and as a Kashmiri who lives in Kashmir, let me personally tell you that the erstwhile drug condition of our Punjab is now partially visible in Kashmir too with young kids getting addicted, and you recently saw that a few bunch of people were arrested who were on payroll of ISI or some junior organisation of Pakistan to set shops on fire and cause huge economic damages to us.


Pretty much according to my understanding, Pak military is not a fighting force, they run pizza shops and grocery items factories, airlines and real estate businesses. It is a money making mindset businessforce.

the same old bleed by 1000 cuts

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Right now ceasefire is declared at loc but I think we have to provide our soldier with best of the best equipment because I think this peace will not last for 3 or 4 months because now infiltration is going to take place by border action team or terrorists and we must provide our ghatak with best of the best equipment and any cross border action against terrorist should not be considered as part of ceasefire

Ceasefire is for regular military, infiltration can be fired at.

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

Ceasefire is for regular military, infiltration can be fired at.

Sir please explain in simple words sab uppar se udd ke gaya hai

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

Ceasefire is for regular military, infiltration can be fired at.

Samajh gaya sir yes sir ceasefire is for regular military infiltration to terrorist karenge to mai ye bol raha hu ki any cross border action against terrorist should be considered as a part of ceasefire

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Just a thought...

We usually lament that india's strategic doctrine is defensive in nature.

isn't it the case that even pakistan's strategic doctrine is defensive in nature too. other than India they never actually went to war with anyone else as a state. few oddities exist like Zia massacring Palestinians on behalf of Jordan and Raheel Sharif hired by Saudi's for massacring yemenis .

Can it be said that pakistan also has a defensive doctrine, contrary to what pakis think about themselves in their heads?

It is a bait.they do have an offensive arm,but in order to percieve,you have to be a very specific combination of sociopathic,cynical and interested in demographics and military issues like me for example.

They have relegated their offensive part of their army to ogws in kashmir, terrorists in kashmir and they are hoping on internal muzzie actors for support .that is what they believe.this change is from 1971 onwards as pak has lost the overall military edge,they can do suprise skirmishes to if they like kargil to capture areas they might consider strategic,but key long term offensive arm and damage is meant to done by the above and that is why they react so painfully to loss of art 370,ram mandhir decision,etc as it like hitting an essential part of their strike corps.this is a total war of civilazational nature,pak has cornered itself to the sides of various non bharatians of preferably islamic variety( we da reel Persians an sheet,da reel Arabs,da reel Turks) regardless of false nature of claims.it has also run its country in a way that does not afford offensive capabilities against India in contemporary age due to poor economic and policy decisions.so they are completely depended on the above and maybe china to carry out offence.

You can't say this as some people might not consider it pc for the reasons you are smart enough to decipher.

The pak military part of this doctrine is to fulfill the defence as you have noticed.they are a holding force to slow down or prevent any strategic gains by india.they were the whole deal before 1971 and they had tried alot but now they are only the defensive part of the whole doctrine.

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

Israel is waiting when NATO invades Iran, Israel is till the time cracking his fingers before the fight.

If nato invades in iran then there are 95 percent chances that russia or china will intervene and again one country will become Syria remember this thing russia lost its opportunity to save libya and iraq and they will try there 100 percent to save iran they will also ask china for help

 

[FalconSlayers]

If nato invades in iran then there are 95 percent chances that russia or china will intervene and again one country will become Syria remember this thing russia lost its opportunity to save libya and iraq and they will try there 100 percent to save iran they will also ask china for help

And if that happens, Pakistan will once again become NATO’s or Sino-Russian Alliance’s Dalal for Iran war.

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

And if that happens, Pakistan will once again become NATO’s or Sino-Russian Alliance’s Dalal for Iran war.

This time pakistan will choose nato because pakistan is important for USA and yes pakistan is neighbour of iran and their is tension between iran and pakistan don't forget iran conducted surgical strike in Pakistan

 

[FalconSlayers]

This time pakistan will choose nato because pakistan is important for USA and yes pakistan is neighbour of iran and their is tension between iran and pakistan don't forget iran conducted surgical strike in Pakistan

It was a small hostage rescue operation.

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

It was a small hostage rescue operation.

Wo pakistan ki izzat bachane ke liye small operation keh diya gya hai whatever but pakistani will choose america unhe uyghurs ka bhi to badla lena hai