India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[Tridev123]

According to me, not punishing pak for pursuing nuclear weapons is one of the two irreparable strategic blunders by india in its post independence history.

The other was handing over tibet by nehru to china.

The Tibet blunder by the ex Indian Prime Minister is costing the nation dearly.
True.

But Pakistan's nuclear weapons. I totally agree that it should be denuclearised now.
But in the past it served as some sort of insurance against any plans by Washington to balkanise India. A few decades ago when relations between India and the US were not too friendly there were extreme anti India lobbies in the US which wanted to punish India for being friendly with the Soviet Union and leading the Non Aligned Movement. Statements by the US envoy to the UN Jeane Kirkpatrick threatening India with balkanisation are on record.

During this period of our evolution as a country we were quite vulnerable to economic and other pressures.

If the US did seriously consider balkanising India, then India would have made Pakistan turn into another Iran and Pakistan's nuclear weapons would have proliferated to the Middle East. Possibly even an suitcase nuclear bomb (portable)
could have been smuggled into Western capitals and detonated by Islamic radicals.
So basically the idea was that if India goes down we will ensure that the US also goes down.

Anyway all that was in the past. India today is much much stronger and any misadventure by any Major Power will prove too costly for them. Also relations between New Delhi and Washington have been totally transformed.

But Yes, presently Pakistan's nuclear weapons pose an threat to the entire world.
It would be better if it is denuclearised.

 

[hawwk]

Maybe made a double agent out of him

It would be a 1000iq move if R&AW intentionally supplied fake documents and Vikram Soods intentionally licked USA's works to lure CIA agents since there is no case against him

 

[Raaakisazih]

It would be a 1000iq move if R&AW intentionally supplied fake documents and Vikram Soods intentionally licked USA's works to lure CIA agents since there is no case against him

I don't know but why would be a traitor made chief of raw

 

[FalconSlayers]

Loool Porkies were jumping over India barking we’ll do 2 front war with India and sheeit, now look who’s getting a rod straight outta oven.

 

[DEV1729]

Blast in karachi petrol pump 1 killed

 

[Cheetah007]

The irony of the Indian strategy for Afghanistan is that with the US withdrawal, we will also be packing up. India should have taken the responsibility of training the ANA, provided them with missiles, drones, and commondo training for special ops. That would have ensured it's long-term foot print.

Anyways, Shouldn't there be any thread on Afghanistan??

 

[Knowitall]

Loool Porkies were jumping over India barking we’ll do 2 front war with India and sheeit, now look who’s getting a rod straight outta oven.

People are not understanding the malice behind his statement.

He is effectively justifying pakistani involvement in the Afghan war to the international community by making such vague statements.

Over the last few months the taliban had launched multiple large scale offenses into northern afghanistan much to the surprise of US and the international coalition who were expecting a push southwards first.

Over the last weekend they took most of Badakhshan and Takhar provinces with government forces holding little more than the provincial capitals.

Both provinces had once served as the strongholds for the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance during the gruesome civil war in the 1990s and were never routed by the militants.

They are playing their cards very well by subjugating the entire north first. They are preventing a repeat of the 90s and the deadlock that followed.

China on the other hand is preventing both russia and iran from funding the northern alliance in any significant way.

If the current trend continues the taliban will roll over the country as their biggest adversary will be taken out even before it joins the battle.

 

[Raaakisazih]

People are not understanding the malice behind his statement.

He is effectively justifying pakistani involvement in the Afghan war to the international community by making such vague statements.

Over the last few months the taliban had launched multiple large scale offenses into northern afghanistan much to the surprise of US and the international coalition who were expecting a push southwards first.

Over the last weekend they took most of Badakhshan and Takhar provinces with government forces holding little more than the provincial capitals.

Both provinces had once served as the strongholds for the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance during the gruesome civil war in the 1990s and were never routed by the militants.

They are playing their cards very well by subjugating the entire north first. They are preventing a repeat of the 90s and the deadlock that followed.

China on the other hand is preventing both russia and iran from funding the northern alliance in any significant way.

If the current trend continues the taliban will roll over the country as their biggest adversary will be taken out even before it joins the battle.

Anything india can do

 

[mokoman]

US left Afghan airfield at night, didn't tell new commander

Afghan military officials say the U.S. left Afghanistan’s Bagram Airfield after nearly 20 years by slipping away in the night, without notifying the base’s new Afghan commander.

apnews.com

The U.S. left Afghanistan’s Bagram Airfield after nearly 20 years by shutting off the electricity and slipping away in the night without notifying the base’s new Afghan commander, who discovered the Americans’ departure more than two hours after they left, Afghan military officials said.

Damn , americans have no shame .

Afghanistan is a lost cause now , i am guessing Taliban will take over or China will 'fund' an arrangement between Taliban and current Afghan gov - with ISI in middle.

 

[another_armchair]

The irony of the Indian strategy for Afghanistan is that with the US withdrawal, we will also be packing up. India should have taken the responsibility of training the ANA, provided them with missiles, drones, and commondo training for special ops. That would have ensured it's long-term foot print.

Anyways, Shouldn't there be any thread on Afghanistan??

Afghanistan is divided strictly along tribal blood lines.

No matter how many dollars the world pours in, their loyalty will lie with you only for so long as you are strong, can take on the strongest tribal group(read Pashtun Taliban) and keep pouring dollars. Moment the class monitor is out of the room, they go back to trying and subjugating each other.

They are primitive parasites. Each one of them. Let them perish. Let them side with ISI or whoever, we shore up our defences and maintain a 20 km buffer zone at LOC, we should be good. Be brutal, be ruthless and use overwhelming, disproportionate force to decimate your enemy.

ANA is surrendering to Taliban with all its war fighting capabilities without a fight. How would training these ingrates help? You would be digging your own grave by upgrading their war fighting capabilities. We saw it in Iraq when Sunni desertions from Iraqi Army, militia resulted in the creation of ISIS.

Biden is said to have prepared a nasty surprise for Pakistan. Let's wait and see if it lives up to the suspense or back channel talks results in status-quo.

 

[Raaakisazih]

US left Afghan airfield at night, didn't tell new commander

Afghan military officials say the U.S. left Afghanistan’s Bagram Airfield after nearly 20 years by slipping away in the night, without notifying the base’s new Afghan commander.

apnews.com

The U.S. left Afghanistan’s Bagram Airfield after nearly 20 years by shutting off the electricity and slipping away in the night without notifying the base’s new Afghan commander, who discovered the Americans’ departure more than two hours after they left, Afghan military officials said.

Damn , americans have no shame .

Afghanistan is a lost cause now , i am guessing Taliban will take over or China will 'fund' an arrangement between Taliban and current Afghan gov - with ISI in middle.

Are Americans so coward i mean fuck biden we can cope but afghans will be destroyed completely

 

[Raaakisazih]

Afghanistan is divided strictly along tribal blood lines.

No matter how many dollars the world pours in, their loyalty will lie with you only for so long as you are strong, can take on the strongest tribal group(read Pashtun Taliban) and keep pouring dollars. Moment the class monitor is out of the room, they go back to trying and subjugating each other.

They are primitive parasites. Each one of them. Let them perish. Let them side with ISI or whoever, we shore up our defences and maintain a 20 km buffer zone at LOC, we should be good. Be brutal, be ruthless and use overwhelming, disproportionate force to decimate your enemy.

Biden is said to have prepared a nasty surprise for Pakistan. Let's wait and see if it lives up to the suspense or back channel talks results in status-quo.

We need to take POK to cut china and Pakistan land route

 

[Cheran]

Ref Afghanistan, yesterday around 1000 afghan army-men fled to neighboring Tajikistan.

Indian MEA better get into action & bring them (our citizens working there) back.

Chances of Indians getting killed or kidnapped by Bakis is extremely high.

They might want a couple of Indians to produce as evidence for an imagined "Indian terror plot".

 

[Raaakisazih]

Ref Afghanistan, yesterday around 1000 afghan army-men fled to neighboring Tajikistan.

Indian MEA better get into action & bring them back.

Chances of Indians getting killed or kidnapped by Bakis is extremely high.

They might want a couple of India's to produce as evidence for an imagined "Indian terror plot".

Exactly US has fled the scene if india doesn't strikes now it will be too late

 

[another_armchair]

We need to take POK to cut china and Pakistan land route

Let us have complete control, law and order over Indian administered Kashmir. Then we think of taking PoK.

It is not a low hanging apple that you go and pluck it.

 

[Raaakisazih]

Let us have complete control, law and order over Indian administered Kashmir. Then we think of taking PoK.

It is not a low hanging apple that you go and pluck it.

I know but it will be too late if we don't act now

 

[another_armchair]

Exactly us has fled the scene if india doesn't strikes now it will be too late

Strike how, where and why?

Who is our enemy in Afghanistan?

The pro ISI Taliban faction? We have our proxies among the Pashtuns too. This will be interesting to say the least. No jock wetting please.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Exactly us has fled the scene if india doesn't strikes now it will be too late

We will not, there are too many players involved and no one wants a conflict in neighbourhood of Afghanistan.

 

[Raaakisazih]

We will not, there are too many players involved and no one wants a conflict in neighbourhood of Afghanistan.

By striking i meant in covert ways not a full blown war that's not possible

 

[another_armchair]

I know but it will be too late if we don't act now

There is an old proverb they believe in - You have the clock, we have the time.

How do you act and against whom? Would be childish to move in. We have our leverage in Afghanistan. We will use them when we see a need to.

Relax. Let's not start wetting our pants.