India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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rkhanna

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No, I do not know 'S' wing. What is this wing?

I have not heard of a "S" Wing per se. But there are number of MI task forces that have been stood up over time in the Valley and facing Pak. TSD is one another.

But as such. Lets not discuss these things in open fora.
 

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I have not heard of a "S" Wing per se. But there are number of MI task forces that have been stood up over time in the Valley and facing Pak. TSD is one another.

But as such. Lets not discuss these things in open fora.
@Freezer Dam

I can give numbered 'outfits', both real and imaginary, across the board along with randomized numbers/obscure alphanumeric codes. Certain units are formed task specific and then dissolved. These are transitory. But perhaps you would like to tell what is S wing?
 

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@Freezer Dam

I can give numbered 'outfits', both real and imaginary, across the board along with randomized numbers/obscure alphanumeric codes. Certain units are formed task specific and then dissolved. These are transitory. But perhaps you would like to tell what is S wing?
Nothing special🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐
 

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Military Intelligence Directorate that runs out of Delhi runs counter Intelligence, Counter Insurgency, Counter Inflitration, OpFor Field Intel Gathering will routinely raise up tasks forces for specific tasks (can last weeks, months, years) - They will pool resources from across the Services to achieve objective.

The support to NA against the Taliban was one such Operation. there are a number of Task Forces/Missions that have been run over the decades against Pak, Kashmir, NE, China etc etc

These are not to be confused with RAW based operational task forces.

Also just as an FYI Special Group oscillates between the two.
 

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Then suggest .. don't post things which you can't expand on.

Like I can have a field day with OSINTs over 4 VIKAS pics they keep posting. Mere conjectures about it abound.

Sometimes, best to enjoy the show.
:D
Are you ex SF or ex serviceman ?
 

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#BREAKING: Two dreaded Pakistan sponsored terrorists killed in Doda of Jammu & Kashmir in a joint operation by J&K Police, Indian Army & CRPF. Identified as Tahir of Hizbul Mujahideen & Maqsood Ahmed. They were involved in killing of RSS leader Chandrakant Sharma in Kishtwar.
#BREAKING: Two dreaded Pakistan sponsored terrorists killed in Doda of Jammu & Kashmir in a joint operation by J&K Police, Indian Army & CRPF. Identified as Tahir of Hizbul Mujahideen & Maqsood Ahmed. They were involved in killing of RSS leader Chandrakant Sharma in Kishtwar.
 

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If it really happened, I am pretty sure the ELINT aircraft was covered by at least 2x Su-30MKI if not more.

Something like this.


It would have been an ultimate flex of power and dominance :cool3:
I'd not jump to conclusions, based on the flight path, the incursion was done near from Amritsar? Which get access to Lahore quickly. MKIs weren't involved as more clutter would've been detected by even a 3rd class ground based radar. It could be a possibility that "decoy" or in shroud of pure Electronic Jamming could've been used. SAM coverage can be penetrated depending in the gaps in those coverage. The max range of ground based radar at outer rim of the zone can have weak ping , which can be subdued by counter decoying. Since its was ESINT ops, it could be possible that we either have there electronic data of jets, used it on them, because nobody can go that deep. I could be wrong too, but if we have demonstrated such capability then what DGISPR id doing, pakodey tal rahey kya?
 

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I guess I give it a try




Tiger is our national animal and bear is for russia

So Russian weapons involved, I guess(in the pic,looks like our braveheart sitting inside russian heli)

TP|G is the tricky part.

In the original tweet,it was mentioned as "a TP|G"

Babaji only | for mentioning loc/ib
So probably means terrorist launch pads across loc

In the comment it was mentioned "the T-P!G"

It might mean a hvt like hafiz saeed.

So the plot thickens.





There is another possibility of highly unlikely-hyper bolic case.

There's a theoretical physics group (tpg) which is part of Pakistani nuclear team.


Or I'm way too sleepy to guess these things :yawn:
It was an ATGM... Period
 

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I'd not jump to conclusions, based on the flight path, the incursion was done near from Amritsar? Which get access to Lahore quickly. MKIs weren't involved as more clutter would've been detected by even a 3rd class ground based radar. It could be a possibility that "decoy" or in shroud of pure Electronic Jamming could've been used. SAM coverage can be penetrated depending in the gaps in those coverage. The max range of ground based radar at outer rim of the zone can have weak ping , which can be subdued by counter decoying. Since its was ESINT ops, it could be possible that we either have there electronic data of jets, used it on them, because nobody can go that deep. I could be wrong too, but if we have demonstrated such capability then what DGISPR id doing, pakodey tal rahey kya?
Simply u underestimate pakistan electronics warfare capabilities or overestimate our capabilities....Nothing happened or we did not cross loc...
 

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Ok so the rumour i heard was right.
As mentioned earlier by @rkhanna , for off the record ops, individuals are selected from across the arms and services. They are not exclusive to either SF or any other specialised forces, unlike a popular belief.

They gather, undertake the task and dissolve. However, they are on a roster permanently till they are either relieved or they are unavailable.

The only outfit that is constant in terms of being static for provision of administrative and logistic support for teams is named but the name is not public in general except in tight circles. That outfit has 02 units and has been around for decades although named somewhere in 80s or 90s (I do not recollect the exact time frame).

Even till 2007 (if I recollect correctly), SG was unknown except for those who would suddenly find a posting order asking them to report at 22 for probation and some or the other enthusiastic youngster inadvertently let slip the name to his fellow officers upon being selected into SG. Then, for the first time, a CO, in his enthusiasm, published the unit name in Times of India's rememberance column, I saw the particular column and was surprised at this. That is how 4 VIKAS as SG came out. SG itself has multiple components and tasks, which, for obvious reasons, will not be spelled out.
 
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