India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

Kumaoni

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try questioning any Vet officer on sm regarding equipment deficit and they will rant out and ask if you can carry 40kgs uphill while their fans will ask if you have ever served , ever even held a rifle .
To be honest most people even military people are either ignorant or just don't care .
They don’t care one bit because deep down they know the upper brass is rotten beyond actual repair so they only do it because they believe that criticism of the army = criticism of their particular time there.
 

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A bad year.

Since april Indian army has been taking serious casualties in ambush.

This year alone the kill ratio is barely over 1:1.

And there aren’t many terrorists. Even at the height of kashmir militancy a 4:1-5:1 ratio was kept between army men and militants. Even 7:1 in one year. This year should be anathema for the army which usually frowns upon a kill ratio poorer than 4 mil/1sol.
What went wrong
They need significant changes
 

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In a long run, it very much does

There's a reason why peace has been possible with medievals only under extremely cruel ruling class (Ranjit Singh, 18th century Britishers or present day Saudis).
Times have changed.

There was no internet, telegram and global indoctrination during Ranjit Singh's time.

Once a fidayeen is dead, he gets his 72 raisins. Doesn't matter what happens to his body. It is drilled deep into their heads.

These are savages who deserve to be roasted in their sleep by thermobaric bombs targeting their camps whether they are in Lawhore or Islumabad.
 

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What went wrong
They need significant changes
Idk the kill ratio last year was actuallt pretty high esp for the army. The terrorists probably adjusted their tactics, and since then, have humiliated the army.


I think the terrorists have started launching small party ambushes with 2-3 men on open and unarmed targets and escaping very easily.

Do remember- less ambushers= less targets for the soldiers.?
 

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Times have changed.

There was no internet, telegram and global indoctrination during Ranjit Singh's time.

Once a fidayeen is dead, he gets his 72 raisins. Doesn't matter what happens to his body. It is drilled deep into their heads.

These are savages who deserve to be roasted in their sleep by thermobaric bombs targeting their camps whether they are in Lawhore or Islumabad.
the main reason i celebrate the slaughter of jihadi spawn. they know no humanity and aren’t humans.
 

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Idk the kill ratio last year was actuallt pretty high esp for the army. The terrorists probably adjusted their tactics, and since then, have humiliated the army.


I think the terrorists have started launching small party ambushes with 2-3 men on open and unarmed targets and escaping very easily.

Do remember- less ambushers= less targets for the soldiers.?
Hmm remember last time they hid in forests
You're probably right about this analysis they hit and run squad
 

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Pray for the 3 injured. If it rises to 6 then i’ll be speechless
 

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Fuck this government and army generals . They allow soldiers to move in such vehicles which can be easily ambushed ..
Though off the track but, Jis din fauji se general ban.ne lagega us din fauji ki jaan ki keemat jyada ho jaayegi...
Is forum par sab log apne suggestion denge, logo ko samjhane ki koshish karenge ki kya plan of action hona chahiye.. lekin politics me sab kuchh itna straight nahi hota..aur decisions political leadership along with military leadership par depend karta hai...
 

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Though off the track but, Jis din fauji se general ban.ne lagega us din fauji ki jaan ki keemat jyada ho jaayegi...
Is forum par sab log apne suggestion denge, logo ko samjhane ki koshish karenge ki kya plan of action hona chahiye.. lekin politics me sab kuchh itna straight nahi hota..aur decisions political leadership along with military leadership par depend karta hai...
Heads must roll then,there must be accountability because that's very poor record compared to it's own previous years
 

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Nearly every encounter in Poonch, DKG, BD, Rajouri has cost us precious men including men from Para SF and other units.

NSA needs to sit down, take stock of the ground situation and come up with a solution. Each time men go in, they lose lives.

SOP can be blamed but how/why are these tangos managing to have a free run here?

Can't hide behind the excuse of 'difficult' terrain forever. Forget Army, BSF & CRPF did reasonably well here during the peak of militancy.
 

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Than again what is Chudnath singh doing?
With so many KIA doesn't he feel like holding the generols accountable?
Enough armoured vehicles were procured so where are they?
Chudnath Singh will give statements like:

"The whole world is a family. We have never intended to conquer the world."

"India has never attacked any country, nor has it captured an inch of foreign land, but if anyone ever tries to harm the sovereignty, unity and integrity of the nation, a befitting reply will be given."


You can't expect anything more from cucks like him.
 

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Nearly every encounter in Poonch, DKG, BD, Rajouri has cost us precious men including men from Para SF and other units.

NSA needs to sit down, take stock of the ground situation and come up with a solution. Each time men go in, they lose lives.

SOP can be blamed but how/why are these tangos managing to have a free run here?

Can't hide behind the excuse of 'difficult' terrain forever. Forget Army, BSF & CRPF did reasonably well here during the peak of militancy.
Not sure about CRPF but yeah bsf literally killed 50% of JKLFs top leadership (like their high ranking commanders) in 1990-1991 alone lol.

CRPF was too ineffective to do anything.

Howveer, the CRPF have made huge strides in their training, and tactics. They used to get absolutely curbstomped by the Naxalites.
Now? They are killing them like nonones business. They single handedly turned around the fight against the naxals.
 

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now they will send 9 para with "brahmastra" tavor and casualty will increase. tnagos would have already crossed border till now.
Enemies probably laid an ambush for the 9 para reinforcements too.
 

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Heads must roll then,there must be accountability because that's very poor record compared to it's own previous years
Kiske liye heads must roll honge.. jawano ke liye... jo 15 saal me retire ho jaate hain.. abhi inki jagah CO hota koi to bawal mach gaya hota... nichli ranks me hona abhishap hai boss...
 

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