India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[another_armchair]

But then our High IQ jernails signed a ceasefire with their disabled lumber 1 fauj giving them room for infiltrations. IA used to dominate those clowns. Now all that has stopped.

It was forced upon us by chacha jaan Umreeka.

We should've said 'theek hai' and continued lobbing 5 shells instead of 50.

People living in border areas of Jammu had also started cribbing about loss of livestock and life in cross border shelling.

 

[Kumaoni]

It was forced upon us by chacha jaan Umreeka.

We should've said 'theek hai' and continued lobbing 5 shells instead of 50.

People living in border areas of Jammu had also started cribbing about loss of livestock and life in cross border shelling.

America is the reason Hindus faced persecution here. Legit arming Pakistan to take on Russia only for them to use the same weapons on us.

 

[Brood Father]

These casualties will come and no one can stop them as this is the cost we have to pay to defend our frontiers ..on the plus side we need some combat experience but what we don't need is a casualties

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Answer who decides to send teams in jungles with low visibility, shit knowledge, and bad weather, with ZERO drone support.

with g20 ongoing and 2 weeks away events in kashmir and ladakh, and after an ambush resulting 5 KIA 2 weeks ago, the order is very clearly from Delhi to flush them out asap. remember after the ambush there were reports SF units along with drones have been tasked of taking them out on LOC as well as hinterland

 

[Kumaoni]

with g20 ongoing and 2 weeks away events in kashmir and ladakh, and after an ambush resulting 5 KIA 2 weeks ago, the order is very clearly from Delhi to flush them out asap. remember after the ambush there were reports SF units along with drones have been tasked of taking them out on LOC as well as hinterland

“Reports” just nice

 

[shade]

These casualties will come and no one can stop them as this is the cost we have to pay to defend our frontiers ..on the plus side we need some combat experience but what we don't need is a casualties

I was thinking you are a keyboard wielding generic blackpiller on the internet
but no, you are an actual Genrol

What i've highlighted in bold seems legit the thinking of these genrols, keep throwing more warm bodies at the problem, those are cheap yo.

Can't blame them, political class only green-lights a response for electoral benefits, otherwise it's business as usual.
The most blood-boiling thing about the balakot bombing and aftermath was not ThE TeA WaS FaNtAsTiQ
But the fact that these guys were screeching that they only hit the terrorist launchpads and not Paki military facilities.

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

Chalo bhai... people are talking of infantry equipment & cost of equipping a soldier

So let's do a rough calculation...

Assault rifle/Carbine: $1200
Pistol: $600
BPJ: $900
Helmet: $450
Man portable SDR(hand held/helmet integrated): $1500
Helmet mounted night/thermal vision: $6000
Miscellaneous: $1500(for things I may have missed)

Total: approx $12000 x 82 = approx 10 lakh INR in current exchange rate

So for every 1 crore we can equip 10 soldiers on western standards

Approximate strength of PARA(SF+AB)= 8000

Approximate strength of Ghatak= supposing 40 soldiers(1 platoon) per battalion= 40 x 400 battalion = 16000

16000 + 8000 = 24000... make it 25000

25000 x 10,00000 = 25,00,00,00,000

For 2500 crores entirety of PARA & Ghatak can be armed on western standards.

What's 2500 crore for GOI? Peanuts

Par nahi... subsidy denge... freebies denge

 

[Marliii]

Can we not make the known caves in regions like this inaccessible ? We can't possible seal every cave but boobytrapping or cementing the known ones likely to be used by these maggots would be good

 

[Tactical Doge]

with g20 ongoing and 2 weeks away events in kashmir and ladakh, and after an ambush resulting 5 KIA 2 weeks ago, the order is very clearly from Delhi to flush them out asap. remember after the ambush there were reports SF units along with drones have been tasked of taking them out on LOC as well as hinterland

Should've been regulars from CI/CT units + Drones

 

[iBaaz]

You know, when I heard IA is searching Rajouri forest, I always knew they will fuck up the search just like the last time. They learned nothing, stupidly repeating the exact same mistake.

I just don't even have sympathy anymore, just frustration with the thick-headedness of Army commanders and equally mindless platoon leaders just charging straight into enemy ambush.

whaat mistakes list some

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Should've been regulars from CI/CT units + Drones

para sf having a hard time here, not sure how regulars would have fared.

 

[iBaaz]

para sf having a hard time here, not sure how regulars would have fared.

Regulars are part of the op along with para, of the 5 KIA 1 is from RR

 

[Marliii]

Chalo bhai... people are talking of infantry equipment & cost of equipping a soldier

So let's do a rough calculation...

Assault rifle/Carbine: $1200
Pistol: $600
BPJ: $900
Helmet: $450
Man portable SDR(hand held/helmet integrated): $1500
Helmet mounted night vision: $6000
Miscellaneous: $1500(for things I may have missed)

Total: approx $12000 x 82 = approx 10 lakh INR in current exchange rate

So for every 1 crore we can equip 10 soldiers on western standards

Approximate strength of PARA(SF+AB)= 8000

Approximate strength of Ghatak= supposing 40 soldiers(1 platoon) per battalion= 40 x 400 battalion = 16000

16000 + 8000 = 24000... make it 25000

25000 x 10,00000 = 25,00,00,00,000

For 2500 crores entirety of PARA & Ghatak can be armed on western standards.

What's 2500 crore for GOI?

Par nahi... subsidy denge... freebies denge

They got the money for chasing things like jetpacks and not necessary BPjs or helmets

 

[Tactical Doge]

Chalo bhai... people are talking of infantry equipment & cost of equipping a soldier

So let's do a rough calculation...

Assault rifle/Carbine: $1200
Pistol: $600
BPJ: $900
Helmet: $450
Man portable SDR(hand held/helmet integrated): $1500
Helmet mounted night vision: $6000
Miscellaneous: $1500(for things I may have missed)

Total: approx $12000 x 82 = approx 10 lakh INR in current exchange rate

So for every 1 crore we can equip 10 soldiers on western standards

Approximate strength of PARA(SF+AB)= 8000

Approximate strength of Ghatak= supposing 40 soldiers(1 platoon) per battalion= 40 x 400 battalion = 16000

16000 + 8000 = 24000... make it 25000

25000 x 10,00000 = 25,00,00,00,000

For 2500 crores entirety of PARA & Ghatak can be armed on western standards.

What's 2500 crore for GOI?

Par nahi... subsidy denge... freebies denge

RR units and Ghataks are usually better equipped than SF
Even CAPF QRTs, Trashmir State police is better equipped

This Op was probably fked from the Get go itself
As the PAFF press release said, they wanted it to be a drawn out cat and mouse game in the Jungles, the IA genrols gave them exactly that

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Chalo bhai... people are talking of infantry equipment & cost of equipping a soldier

So let's do a rough calculation...

Assault rifle/Carbine: $1200
Pistol: $600
BPJ: $900
Helmet: $450
Man portable SDR(hand held/helmet integrated): $1500
Helmet mounted night/thermal vision: $6000
Miscellaneous: $1500(for things I may have missed)

Total: approx $12000 x 82 = approx 10 lakh INR in current exchange rate

So for every 1 crore we can equip 10 soldiers on western standards

Approximate strength of PARA(SF+AB)= 8000

Approximate strength of Ghatak= supposing 40 soldiers(1 platoon) per battalion= 40 x 400 battalion = 16000

16000 + 8000 = 24000... make it 25000

25000 x 10,00000 = 25,00,00,00,000

For 2500 crores entirety of PARA & Ghatak can be armed on western standards.

What's 2500 crore for GOI? Peanuts

Par nahi... subsidy denge... freebies denge

And the Army returns money every year.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Either way, its ultimately the Army that pays for its outdated tactics through its own precious blood. If they don't get serious and adopt life saving technology + tactics, then there's nothing for civilians like us to comment on. This is their institutional problem to sort out.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Two of the bravehearts

 

[Cheran]

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Meanwhile the 2 injured pilots are recovering. Can someone with knowledge tell what is the setup near the patients legs in the 1st pic?

 

[Tactical Doge]

Meanwhile the 2 injured pilots are recovering. Can someone with knowledge tell what is the setup near the patients legs in the 1st pic?

@hit&run