India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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Back in the day it would have been possible. Not saying of present times. You get the idea. Both India and Pakistan's troops concentration was in LoC in those days also.

It was a surprise move by Indian military planners. Pakshittanis didn't thought this in their wildest dreams. To release pressure from LoC this step was taken.
The only reason our army's formations were slowed down was because of Pakistani airforce that kept bombing our forces. We didn't have any network centric Air defense and no forward observation posts. This meant air dominance of PAF in key areas. And PAF bombing our airbases too.

In 71, all of these things with our airforce and Air defense were rectified and the result was there to see.

Had our airforce been strong in 65, there is little chance that we wouldn't have captured or been able to lay a siege on Lahore.
 

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The only reason our army's formations were slowed down was because of Pakistani airforce that kept bombing our forces. We didn't have any network centric Air defense and no forward observation posts. This meant air dominance of PAF in key areas. And PAF bombing our airbases too.

In 71, all of these things with our airforce and Air defense were rectified and the result was there to see.

Had our airforce been strong in 65, there is little chance that we wouldn't have captured or been able to lay a siege on Lahore.
Also the Indian occupying troops were not sure whether the reinforcements will reach them or not, once they hold the major vantage points.

All your other points are true.
 

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C'mon it's a paki randi rona of usual playing victim. If army says they are doing illegal activity then they are doing it. Rest is propaganda.
I mean their own forces are not providing protection for them to build their village and they are blaming our forces?

Wow. Maybe they should grow some balls and ask why most of their taxes are going to the Napak army if they can't even provide protection to build in their own claimed land.
 

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Lahore is a fortress and PA with all it's faults are a good fighting machine ..So it with a blood bath unless we are prepared for it
Karachi on the other hand will be a walkover and much easier deal as it can be captured and then blockaded ...
So if we are going to fantasize then atleast fantasize where will can achieve objective with minimum casualties..
Cities are a bane. One can capture it but can one hold it? Baghdad, Stalingrad, Leningrad were places where street to street fighting occurred. One cannot bombard the area when one's own troops are present. Mines, snipers, famine, epidemic are all the factors one has to count. Its better to lay the siege till the war gets over and then negotiate.
 

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What does "Aasmani Kitaab" says about it?
Not sure about asmaani Kitaab but Some studies on Muhammad's sexual behavior have been done
 

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Not sure about asmaani Kitaab but Some studies on Muhammad's sexual behavior have been done
All right I get it now. OffTopic. Will leave it here.
 

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Why is suddenly everyone interested in capturing Lahore today?😂
And the golden question capture karke karoge kya?
Yeah in one thread: Let's capture Lahore. No bro let's capture Karachi instead!
In other thread: why didn't we retaliate when PAF attacked our bases? No bro, our objectives were met onlee. :dude:
 

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Yeah in one thread: Let's capture Lahore. No bro let's capture Karachi instead!
In other thread: why didn't we retaliate when PAF attacked our bases? No bro, our objectives were met onlee. :dude:
All we lack is a strong leadership . I had expected too much from modi but he doesn't seem to live up to my expectations. He should have declared war as soon as abhinanadan was captured. It would have given us a good excuse to at least take back some part of PoK
 

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Lahore is a fortress and PA with all it's faults are a good fighting machine ..So it with a blood bath unless we are prepared for it
Karachi on the other hand will be a walkover and much easier deal as it can be captured and then blockaded ...
So if we are going to fantasize then atleast fantasize where will can achieve objective with minimum casualties..
We can't capture Lahore but we can lay a siege around it. Strangle their supply routes with air attacks. But first for that to happen PAF must be neutralised. For that we need tons of PGMs and our squadron strength should be built up to at least 38. If we can put out PAF bases at Sargodha , Murid , Peshawar , masroor and Mianwali then PAF will effectively be grounded
 

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Naya namkaran
Destroy Lahore fort
Ask the population to ghar wapsi.
Days of war are gone nowadays days civil war is the key eg Syrian civil war, libyian civil war, iraq civil war, etc.

Only current example of 2 countries fighting is Armenia and Azerbaijan they are very small countries.
Taliban will never recognize durrand line.

Their are number of fault lines in Punjab itself they have multiple landlord .

Civil unrest is always the key. Even natural calamities also gives new opportunity for enemy due to anger in population.

Farmers protest , Shaheen bagh, etc are examples of it
 
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Days of war are gone nowadays days civil war is the key eg Syrian civil war, libyian civil war, iraq civil war, etc.

Only current example of 2 countries fighting is Armenia and Azerbaijan they are very small countries.
Taliban will never recognize durrand line.

Their are number of fault lines in Punjab itself they have multiple landlord .

Civil unrest is always the key. Even natural calamities also gives new opportunity for enemy due to anger in population.
Pàkistan is in mess. They're shrot of civil war but hating India and India will attack them narrative is holding them back from civil war. Pashtun uprising in KPK and economic mess may boil down to civil war in future. We should play wait and watch game fortifying ourselves to take advantage when they crumble. Also we should shift our resources and strategies from Pak centric to China to hold on them if they come down to porkis help
 

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Days of war are gone nowadays days civil war is the key eg Syrian civil war, libyian civil war, iraq civil war, etc.

Only current example of 2 countries fighting is Armenia and Azerbaijan they are very small countries.
Taliban will never recognize durrand line.

Their are number of fault lines in Punjab itself they have multiple landlord .

Civil unrest is always the key. Even natural calamities also gives new opportunity for enemy due to anger in population.

Farmers protest , Shaheen bagh, etc are examples of it
cut Sindh in two. Roll in 8 IA divisions in Sindh . You'll see pakistan collapse in no time and that too without crossing their nuke threshold
 

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