India loses on Sri Lankan battleground

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The world in which today are living is totally comical. :biggrin2:
1.NoKo's are saying they have H-bombs are threatening Japanese and Americans. They think they will conquer US with Russia and China.
2.Vietnamese think with India, Japan and US, they can conquer China.
3. Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalese and Sri Lankans think with the help of China, they can conquer India.

Meanwhile, Americans, Russians, Chinese, Indians, Japanese all are laughing at their backs on their respective forums. :hehe:
 

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we are already on our feet since, 1947.

we don't need to hide behind Amerikka to fight against our enemies :biggrin2:
Nope, Pakistan is still crawling.

And you always needed a daddy to hold your hand, it was Amerikka since the beginning, now that daddy Amerikka is being tough on his spoiled brat, you are looking for a new daddy in China. :D
 

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huh ? it was a mistake, we never wanted 5" Black Tribal people with us, we are Tall, fair warrior people.

thank god we lost in 1971. now enjoy 10 million + Bangladeshis in your land. :D

jinnah wanted to give us Pakistan.

P Undivided Punjab
A Afghania
K Kashmir
ISTAN Balouchistan.

so Grater Pakistan is our ultimate goal.
Indo Bangladeshi border are being seal tight with 100s of BD killed on border including little Felani over the years.

And this is the reason why Paki's are call Losers, all the world.You take pride even in Humiliation of 1971 and give shiity excuse for the defeat which resulted in 93000 slaves :lol:
 

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huh ? it was a mistake, we never wanted 5" Black Tribal people with us, we are Tall, fair warrior people.

thank god we lost in 1971. now enjoy 10 million + Bangladeshis in your land. :D

jinnah wanted to give us Pakistan.

P Undivided Punjab
A Afghania
K Kashmir
ISTAN Balouchistan.

so Grater Pakistan is our ultimate goal.
Why did tall fair warrior people lose to 5 foot tribals?
:scared2:
Not warrior enough??
Take some complan.
 

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in broad sence you can say that Hinduism is not religion at all. since Hinduism have no supreme god or holy book.

I am not attacking Hinduism. :)
That is the problem with you. You believe in your scripture and starts applying it to everything that you come across. Hindus have a supreme god but not one, many. Where it is written or who approved the fact that a religion must have one supreme god and a mad scripture to be qualified as a religion. Then why can't you tolerate Christianity or either Judaism?
 

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so what ? even daddy of Japan is America, small countries needs Helping hand of Bigger countries. like your daddy was soviet union and russia from now on it will be America. :D
By your logic, Russia will become daddy of China.
We can't convene you as long as you can't differentiate in partnership and slavery. India still invests in Russia, US is still dependent on India for launch service and IT.
I guess you're comparing militarily, then, India will catch up in league of US, Russia and China in next 10-15 years with third largest defense budget, about 70% made in India procurement and among top 5 exporters of weapons.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

With, fifth Navy, fourth Air Force and Third Army, second population and seventh area India isn't a small country at all. We have issues with US more than you and we can maintain the relationship at equality than any other county.
 

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no border is 100% sealed even superpower us cant stop Mexicans.

no, we take pride in our brace solders who fought against 8 time larger enemy in it's backyard and killed thousands even after getting outnumbered by enemy. still we lost our colony. but it's okay.
Indian army was merciful to 90,000 Pakistani POW's else we would have left it Mukhti Bahinis ... you know what they would have done to you...
 

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no border is 100% sealed even superpower us cant stop Mexicans.

no, we take pride in our brace solders who fought against 8 time larger enemy in it's backyard and killed thousands even after getting outnumbered by enemy. still we lost our colony. but it's okay.
They don't have manpower we have it.BSF and Assam Rifles.

It is a success in Kashmir where thousands of Jihadi pigs were active in 90s now only 300 ~ in 2016.


Same old argument :lol:

So what was the achievement of Ghazis in western front in Punjab and Kashmir ?

Pakis were defeated in Rajasthan,Punjab and territories were permanently annexed in 1971.

Ever heard of Turtok in Kashmir ?
 

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huh ? it was a mistake, we never wanted 5" Black Tribal people with us, we are Tall, fair warrior people.

thank god we lost in 1971. now enjoy 10 million + Bangladeshis in your land. :D

jinnah wanted to give us Pakistan.

P Undivided Punjab
A Afghania
K Kashmir
ISTAN Balouchistan.

so Grater Pakistan is our ultimate goal.
You don't go to a war for a fashion show or a ramp walk. It is not beauty but your courage makes you live another day. And why the hell Afghania is in the list? And that fucking coward Jinnah didn't want to give you people Pakistan. He wanted to be a leader and enjoy the political power it comes with.
 

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so what ? even daddy of Japan is America, small countries needs Helping hand of Bigger countries. like your daddy was soviet union and russia from now on it will be America. :D
Unlike Pakistan, we only have friends, not daddies. :)
 

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we had 8,00,000+ Bangladesis in our land. so Tit for Tat...
:bs: Stop Bs'ing all over this post man. You are just covering up your loss with some random numbers. And BTW POW's are different from Civilians. It's time to upgrade your madarassa syllabus
 

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huh ? it was a mistake, we never wanted 5" Black Tribal people with us, we are Tall, fair warrior people.
Musharraf was neither tall,not fair
thank god we lost in 1971. now enjoy 10 million + Bangladeshis in your land. :D
You both (PK and BD) can enjoy the scenario as in less than 3 decades, India's per capita income will range from your 3 to 10.2 times. Gap between India and neighbors would be like America and Mexico.
:peace:
jinnah wanted to give us Pakistan.

P Undivided Punjab
A Afghania
K Kashmir
ISTAN Balouchistan.

so Grater Pakistan is our ultimate goal.
Ever Heard about Greater India?
 

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This is how Indians saved looser Pakis from Slaughtered by Muktis.


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THE EXPRESS TRIBUNE > PAKISTAN
Bangladesh independence 1971: Surrender at Chittagong
By Shamshad Ali Khan
Published: December 16, 2011
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A Pakistan army officer recalls his experience with his Indian counterparts immediately after laying down arms.

KARACHI:
The last days of the 1971 war are often distorted, obscured or – perhaps worst of all – forgotten.

Forty years on, I want the next generation to glimpse the event through a person who was part of it. I hope my story will help younger Pakistanis understand how human behaviour changes when circumstances change, how it took the war to end for me to truly understand it.

At 6am on December 17, 1971, I reached Cadet College Faujdarhat on the outskirts of Chittagong. All Pakistan Army officers had been ordered at midnight to gather at the college and lay down their arms.

Indian Army Brigadier Sindhu, who had led the occupation of Chittagong, acted gracefully and did not humiliate us, as was done in Dhaka where fighting had ceased the previous day. One reason for this could be that Pakistan Army Brigadier Taskeenudin, who was surrendering, had been his instructor at the Indian Military Academy before Partition.

I entered through the college’s main gate and saw Lt-Col. Ashiq, who was commander of the force deployed on Comilla-Chittagong Axis, pacing up and down outside the main office building.

I was ordered to get hold of three captains and immediately contact the leading Indian force commander on Comilla Road. But most officers refused to accompany me, except Captain Sarfaraz of the East Pakistan Civil Armed Forces. With a white flag on top of our jeep, we moved out to meet the Indians.

We reached a nullah where a bridge had been demolished. A Sikh major, who had crossed the nullah with a platoon, appeared and told me to return with troop-carrying vehicles. I went back to the college and reported the matter to Brigade Major Fakhar who told me to take away all buses and trucks that were available. While the vehicles were there, all the drivers, who were civilians, had vanished.

I mounted a .30 Browning on my jeep and manned it myself. Meanwhile, I spotted Captain Mansoor who agreed to follow me in his jeep. As we opened the gate, the enraged crowd outside the college became silent. Fear and anxiety gripped me – we could not rule out the possibility of the crowd attacking us or at least shooting at us. We could identify the Muktis as they carried sten guns.

Nevertheless, Capt. Mansoor and I moved forward, with my finger on the gun’s trigger. Fortunately, the crowd remained motionless and, in fact, parted to make way for us as we drove along.

My painful journey to surrender

By the time we got back, the Pakistan Army’s company strength had crossed over the nullah and taken position. The Sikh major retained all Pakistan Army captains and I was told to accompany a havaldar, who would escort me to Indian Brigade Commander Brig. Sindhu.

We descended into the deep nullah and saw Indian engineers building passages. As I passed them by, they saluted me even though they could tell I was a Pakistani due to my uniform. Their conduct left me with a positive impression about the Indian Army. At the nullah’s other end, I saw another Pakistan Army company strength mounted on vehicles, ready to go across.

I was put in a jeep to be carried to Brig. Sindhu. We had only covered a mile or two, when we saw the brigade commander approaching from the opposite side. Brig. Sindhu got off his jeep, I saluted and he shook my hand. I sat in the jeep, where his DQ was already sitting with a wireless set. But the jeep hit the nullah and we crossed it on foot, leaving the jeep behind.

At the other bank, a few civilians waited with a Mercedes to receive and greet the victors. A man introduced himself as a relative of a famous Awami League leader and offered the car to the brigadier who refused the car and, pointing towards my jeep, said, “I will use the Pakistan Army’s jeep.”

However, he did go for a meeting with them which I felt was pre-arranged. After the meeting, he came over to me and asked me for suggestions on taking over the city. I suggested only that all Bihari localities be protected immediately as they were at risk of attack by Bengalis.

By this time, the engineers had managed to bring across the brigadier’s jeep and a message was immediately passed to transport the Bihar Regiment to Chittagong to protect the Bihari population. The two captains who had accompanied me would serve as guides.

Brig. Sindhu then asked me to guide him to the commissioner’s office. I knew of its location as I had presided over a summary military court that was located there before General Yahya Khan declared war. The building was built on high ground, affording a view of a large part of the city. When we got there, only the brigadier went into the office and we were left outside on the verandah.

The joy of freedom

From there, I saw citizens of Chittagong celebrate India’s victory and their freedom. Jubilant young girls and boys, wearing colourful clothes, carried Indian and Bangladeshi flags. Vehicles playing loud music sped through the roads. People shouted anti-Pakistan and pro-India slogans and of course “Joi Bangla”. Within 20 to 30 minutes, the number of people and vehicles increased exponentially. I am the only unfortunate officer who witnessed that painful sight. The tormenting thought and feelings that crossed my mind can not be expressed through words.

The crowd eventually made its way to the commissioner’s office. People carried garlands and bouquets for the Indian army, their liberators. They came forward to place garlands around the necks of the Indian officers but one girl smilingly approached me and said, “I know you are Pakistani but never mind, you can also share our happiness”, and gave me a garland.

Suddenly, one of the Indian officers caught me by the arm and pulled me back, covering me, while yelling, “catch him”. I noticed a young boy holding a sten gun run out of the crowd. No one followed him. The boy was trying to shoot at me but before he could, the Indian officer saved me.


A round of the city

Brig. Sindhu then took a round of the city, particularly Bihari localities.

It was as if no one inhabited Bihar Colony. White flags, and not Bangladeshi flags, were put up on all the houses.

It was a painful sight for me and I thought of how young Biharis had wholeheartedly supported Pakistan during the nine months of civil war. Doors and windows were closed, but a few minutes later, we saw some people peering through. Brig. Sindhu asked me to call the residents out of their houses so that he could address them.

Initially, no one came out. But when I announced through a portable loudspeaker that I was a Pakistani and had brought Indians who will protect them, the elderly began to come outside. Brig. Sindhu, in his short address, told them that the Bihar Regiment had been deployed for their protection. The Biharis were visibly relieved.

I was gripped by guilt. I knew that these people had wholeheartedly supported Pakistan Army first against the Mukti Bahini and then against the Indians. And here they were, abandoned and desperate.

The situation was similar in Railway Colony and Adamjee Nagar. By evening, we reached Agrabad Hotel, a restaurant I used to frequent with other officers. Brig. Sindhu decided to have a cup of tea there, and the waiters, who recognised me, met me with mixed emotions.

Finally, I was relieved of the unpleasant duty. But I have the satisfaction that I was instrumental in ensuring protection for non-Bengalis at a time when they needed it the most.

But while the Indian officers escorted me to the Pakistan Army officers’ mess, they received another assignment which they wanted to complete through me.

They wanted me to make a list of people, confined in a big school building, who had survived the massacre of Bihari families in Karnaphuli Paper Mills and other industries that provided accommodation to their workers.

I entered the building and was shocked to see several hundred women and children. A few of them hurriedly approached me, asking if I had brought food. I could not bear it. I still shiver as I recall.

I immediately left the building and told the Indian officers that I would not do the job. Recognising my pain, they did not insist and dropped me at the officers’ mess to join all the officers of the Chittagong Garrison.

The writer is a retired major of the Pakistan Army who served as a first-line soldier in the 1971 war.
 

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because Afghanis is land of Indus that's why.

you are right, stop insulting our leader please, he single handily Librateeeed our land form others. unfortunately we lost Eastern Punjab and Kashmir. but dont worry one day it will be part of our country. :D
Calling a coward, a coward is not an insult. It is not liberation. It is called bifurcation. Even the British didn't gave a shit about Pakistan when they were ruling the subcontinent.
 

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Pakis say they loose in BD bMajor Chewang Rinchen became the youngest recipient of the Maha Vir Chakra. He not only seized the highest post ever captured, but also liberated an area of 800 sq km from Pak Kashmir, the largest area captured in the 1971 war with hardly any supplies and no artillery support.

Claude Arpi salutes this brave Indian soldier.



Have you heard of Colonel Chewang Rinchen?

In 1948, at the age of 17, Rinchen enrolled in the Indian Army; the same year, he won his first Maha Vir Chakra, becoming the youngest recipient of the prestigious decoration.

Born in 1931, Chewang could have spent his entire life in the remote village of Sumur, at the confluence of the Shyok and Nubra rivers. But the visit of the Kalon (minister) of Ladakh changed the course of his life.

The official spotted the spark in the 13-year boy and after gaining the approval of his parents, decided to take him to the Leh to educate him.

Four years later, in one of the most daring operations of the 1947-1948 War, Captain Prithi Chand and a few of his Lahauli companions saved Leh by reaching the Ladakhi capital before the Pakistani raiders: They had done the impossible, cross the Zojila pass in winter.

The captain soon became the mentor of the young Rinchen, who underwent a short military training under him. Rinchen then recruited 28 of his friends from the Nubra Valley and created the Nubra Volunteer Force. They were to play a crucial role in 1947-1948 War.

In April 1969, Major Chewang Rinchen was finally given a regular commission in the Indian Army and was posted with the 14 J&K Rifles. His battalion was soon transferred to Firozpur in Punjab.

But when the heat of the summer became too unbearable for the young Nunnu (name given to the natives of the Nubra Valley), he applied for a transfer back to the Ladakh Scouts. This was granted.

In August 1971, as the clouds were gathering over the Indo-Pakistan border, Rinchen joined his old regiment; he was sent again to his beloved Nubra Valley

A month later, Rinchen started reorganising the Nubra Guards, giving them a special training in firing small arms. He enrolled 550 young local volunteers and organised them into four companies (called by the names of the nearby ranges Karakoram, Saser, Remo and Saltoro). Their training lasted two weeks from November 1 to 15.

Major General S P Malhotra, the General Officer Commanding of 3 Infantry Division responsible for the defence of Ladakh, then asked Rinchen and Colonel Udai Singh, his commanding officer, if they could look after the Nubra/Shyok sector of the border.

Rinchen confidently told his GOC that the Ladakhi Scouts and the Nubra Guards did not need any additional forces; they would do it.

Situated 140 km north of Leh, the Nubra Valley was linked to the capital of Ladakh via the Khardung La, the highest motorable pass of the planet at 5,602 metres.

The army base for the sector was located at Partapur in the Valley and since 1960 an airfield had been opened at Thoise (still today the base camp for the operations on the Siachen Glacier)



On December 3, 1971, after the Pakistan air force conducted pre-emptive air strikes on Indian air bases, Indira Gandhi declared: 'India stands for peace but if war is thrust upon us, we are prepared to fight.'

The same day, Major Rinchen was ordered by his CO: 'The Ladakhi Scouts and the Nubra Guards should be ready to move west tomorrow morning.' Rinchen had the night to make all the necessary arrangements and distribute the tasks between the different companies.

The Nunnu was a good tactician; for example, he always sought the cooperation of the local people of the valley, whether they were Buddhist, Muslim or Christian. He knew that most of the time, the troops had to depend upon local vegetables, meat and other supplies like sattu, pawai, thukpa (soup) and chang (beer) to survive.

The first day, the troops placed under the command of Major Rinchen (known as the Dhal Force), advanced to a place called Baigdangdo, driving for 40 km in jeeps and finishing the next 40 km by foot.

A first briefing was held: What approach should be taken to attack the Pakistani forces: Via the steep mountainous paths or along the Shyok river?

While all the commanders favoured the river bed-side approach, Rinchen decided to cross over the mountains. He argued that the enemy must be waiting with mines and machine gun nests near the river. He chose to capture Pt 18,402, the highest Pakistan-occupied post and then roll down to Chulunkha, the Pakistani base. He knew the area well, having patrolled it in 1965 and in September 1971.

The 40-year-old major had plenty of unorthodox and unconventional ideas about a battle in high altitude and his superiors had confidence in his ability to lead his men to victory.


He first rejected the steel helmet for balaclavas (monkey caps) and ammunition boots for Ladakhi 'pabos' which were lighter and warmer (and therefore more efficient against frost bites); water bottles were not filled with plain water, but a mixture of rum and water which did not freeze at high altitude.



The beddings were reduced to the minimum as Richen expected 'complementary' blankets from the Pakistani prisoners and as for the ammunitions, the quantity was cut by half, he instructed his men to use grenades and bayonets.

Thus the jawans were 'light-capped, light-footed, light-armed and light-baggaged.'




His entire strategy was to take the enemy by surprise and avoid heavy fighting (he was a Buddhist, let us not forget).

The task of capturing Pt 18,402 was assigned to a 400-men column under Major S S Ahluwalia. Though many non-local jawans dropped en route, the Dhal Force advanced slowly towards Pt 18,402.

The capture had eventually to be postponed for a day due to the treacherous terrain and the heavy firing from the post.

Major Ahluwalia was then ordered to silently send one platoon to the back of Pt 18,402 and take control of the Pakistan line of communication; the rest of the troops would continue to keep the enemy engaged.

At one point Rinchen ordered the Nubra Guards at the rear to start shouting: 'Hands-up and surrender, otherwise you will be arrested.' This was a diversion for Major Ahluwalia to finally seize the crucial post. Several Pakistani soldiers were killed while many managed to flee.

When they heard the war cry, 'Ki Ki So So La Gyalo' (Victory to the Gods), the rest of the Indian troops joined Major Ahluwalia and his 18 dare-devil soldiers to celebrate.


On December 8, from the top of Pt 18,402, Rinchen could see the entire valley from Turtok and Chulunkha in the East, to the Indian Army headquarters at Partapur and the airfield at Thoise in the west.

Rinchen was able to get some precious information from the Pakistani POWs about the strength, disposition, arms and ammunitions and approaches to other posts.

He ordered the mortars to fire at the Pakistani administrative post down below to 'soften' the target. Soon the enemy began to panic and run away from their trenches and bunkers.

After one day's rest, the Indian troops began 'rolling down' on the administrative post. When they reached the camp (it took more than 2 hours to 'climb' down 300 metres), the Pakistanis had abandoned this important post.

The Ladakhis and Nunnus recovered a huge stock of food supplies, blankets and ammunition.

Rinchen's tactics had paid. He told his men, 'Enjoy the Pakistani blankets and food.' A bara khana was organised and rum flowed in abundance that night.

On December 9, advancing along the ridges, Rinchen and his men descended towards the Chulunkha defence complex, trying not to be seen by the enemy.

The only way was a nullah. As Rinchen was not comfortable with this approach, he decided to lead the assault himself along with Major Thapa and two platoons of the Nubra Guards. One platoon from each company was kept in reserve.

As the Indian mortars began firing, not a single shot was fired in retaliation. But as they approached, the Pakistanis opened fire with mortars and machine guns. Rinchen's troops faced heavy firing from all sides.

Soon, Rinchen got a wireless message from Thapa informing him that his team had managed to enter the enemy bunkers and a few Pakistani soldiers had been killed and a JCO captured. Rinchen had to join Major Thapa at any cost.

At about 2 am after several unsuccessful attempts, Naik Fateh Mohammad silenced the MMGs (medium machine gun). The Nunnus war-cry was then heard. Using bayonets, the remaining Pakistani troops were quickly overpowered; not a single shot had been fired by the Indian troops.




At 6 am, a runner came with the news that some Pakistani soldiers were still hiding in a hole one the top of a bunker, but they wanted to surrender.

Rinchen then told his jawans that they should behave properly with the POWs. Rinchen then addressed the prisoners: 'You are all brave and I appreciate your unbounded courage and absolute loyalty to your country..'

'It was your duty to fight for your country as best as you could and you did so. Now, since you have surrendered, you are our guests and friends.'

The following days (December 11 and 12) was a day for resting, reorganisation and evacuation of casualties.

The next task was to take Turtok on the left bank of the river Syhok.

By that time, the Pakistani troops had established road blocks and prepared to defend Turtok.

On December 14th morning, soon after shelling started to destroy the road blocks near the Turtok axis, the Dhal Force began its advance.


At 10 pm, shelling was stopped and the troops entered the Turtok village. Surprisingly, the village was absolutely silent.

They found out later that the Pakistani soldiers had run away the previous night. Rinchen forced his entry into the largest house to find that only men were still present in the village. Women and children were hiding in a nullah nearby: They were too scared of the Indian troops.

Rinchen began to speak to the village headman and panchayat chairman and reassured him that nothing bad would happen to them. Suddenly a villager recognised him, 'You are from village Sumur and you are the son of Kunzang.'

It was Rinchen's second victory of the day, this time over the hearts of the local population.

When he called for a meeting, about a thousand local people area assembled to hear Major Rinchen who solemnly told them:

1. We welcome you again to the Indian nation after 23 years.

2. The Indian Army will help you in all respects. Bring back your womenfolk and children. They are like our mothers and sisters. I will be responsible for their safety, if there is any misbehaviour on the part of any soldier or civilian who has come with us, I shall take disciplinary action against the person who misbehaves.

3. I want you all to settle down as free citizens of India where people of different religions live and work together in peace and harmony.


The next phase of the operations was Tyakshi village, 6 km from Turtok. It was concluded on December 14 in the evening. A few Pakistani soldiers were captured with arms and ammunition.

The next day, Rinchen decided to proceed to Tyakshi and Pachethang. By that time the enemy had stopped offering resistance as they had already withdrawn towards Prahnu and Dothang villages in Baltistan.

The surrounding ridges where freed the same day and later in the evening, 1,000 ponies, yaks, donkeys and porters arrived, bringing bedding and other supplies left behind at Baigdangdo.

All these days, the Indian troops had been 'guests' of the Pakistani army, using their ammunition, rations and bedding.

On December 17, Rinchen ordered Major Thapa and Major Mishra to get ready to launch an attack against Prahnu and Piun; it was never to happen.

In the afternoon, the Pakistani government agreed to a ceasefire. The Dhal Force was ordered to cease fire, greatly disappointing Chewang Rinchen's men who were looking forward to liberate all of Baltistan.

Had this been done, Pakistan would have lost its base for the Siachen Glacier operations which were to start 13 years later.

But one can't rewrite history.

Major Chewang Rinchen had not only captured Pt 18,402, the highest post ever captured, but also liberated an area of 800 sq km from *** (it was the largest area captured the 1971 operations), and this with hardly any supplies and no artillery support.

And there was no casualty from the Indian side.

Rinchen got his second Maha Vir Chakra for this feat.

Chewang Rinchen had to wait till the end of his career to be promoted to lieutenant colonel -- because he miserably failed a 'current affairs' test.

He was first and foremost a soldier.

His younger brother P Namgyal was the first Ladakhi to become a Union minister in 1988.
ecause it was thousands of KM away.But these looser were defeated in kashmir where there land was permanently annexed.


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every country have manpower.

it takes time and dont't worry slowly but surely we will librate our Rightful Lands.

Kashmir, Punjab, Himachal Pradesh, Hariyana, Delhi and Agra. are ours.

KPHHDA banega pakistan.

same "pakis" ruled over your lands for 500+ years.
What the f**k? Where are you from kid? Now go to bed or moulana saab kal saza dega tereko madarassa late pohcha tho. Damn it man, stop letting kids in here.
 

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no Russia and china are equals one is strong by military Technology and other is 2nd biggest economy and superpower.
Russia is economically failing, India is rising.
Large Economy means large budget for Research and Development. ;)

India itself balances World posture as a major pole and it's value will only increase with economic and technical advancement and decline of Russia.
they are slowly shifting/moving their firms to ASEAN.
India too is already present in ASEAN.
But where's Pakistan? :rofl:
Not even anywhere in South Asia and think of completing with India.
what made in India weapons ? 40+ year old Tejas with American f-404 Engine ? :rofl:or copy of 30 tears old bofors dhanush ?
We took 15 years for Dhruv, watch at our helicopters, we took 20 years missile tech, watch at our missiles, similarly, AMCA won't take more than 10 years to fly.
Trolled about engine and failure of Kaveri?
Here's a new engine called MANIK.


You asked what made in India weapons.
Go through defense and strategic issue section. There are many threads about Made in India Military and weapon support systems and growing weapon exports.
One of them I recently posted is about LasTech., which's something you can't imagine in dreams. :taunt2:
Only US, Russia and China have such kinds of weapons.
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/indian-laser-and-directed-energy-weapon-dew-thread.76144/
 

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every country have manpower.

it takes time and dont't worry slowly but surely we will librate our Rightful Lands.

Kashmir, Punjab, Himachal Pradesh, Hariyana, Delhi and Agra. are ours.

KPHHDA banega pakistan.

same "pakis" ruled over your lands for 500+ years.
Time to change your Madarsa.You are lowly converts not high caste noble birth.

Since when Pakis became Central Asian Mughals.Your kind didn't even ruled your own land.Mughlas inducted Indians in their Nobility.Man singh was 7000 Mansabdar and your ruler as governor of Kabul and Lawhore.

Marathas were nobles under Aurangzeb.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Singh_I

Remeber you are defeated Hindus ruled by Indians and others for thousands of years.

List of your Rulers


Mauryans

Persians

Huns

kushans

Arabs

Mongols

Turkish

Sikhs

Dogra

Marathas

Brithish


Total slavery 2500 years

 

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