India-China 2021 Border conflict

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it can influence nepal but it's influence in india will not be in the same way - india is building a strong and sustainable military posture to offset any chinese advantage in infrastructure and mobilisation, along with that we are building infrastructure at a fast pace along the border , improving lines of communication for our troops and improving connectivity for civillains. Recently the road to anini was converted into a double lane highway , numerous tunnels are being built to faciliate movement of troops and civillains. If nepal were to get involved too deeply into india and china's battle of influence then I can assure you your country will be split in two parts , the terai will be with india and the other half of the kathmandu valley and the hills will be under chinese control . So it's best for you to stay neutral .
That’s overconfidence
War is fought with resources and Infrastructure not with bragging Nehru Lost 1962 in the same delusion because he had no idea about war
 

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That’s overconfidence
War is fought with resources and Infrastructure not with bragging Nehru Lost 1962 in the same delusion because he had no idea about war
Lol , Then can you prove how the situation today is similar to 62 ? @mist_consecutive this man is in the delusion that the current situation is similar to 62 , enlighten him.
 
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That’s overconfidence
War is fought with resources and Infrastructure not with bragging Nehru Lost 1962 in the same delusion because he had no idea about war
Resources and infrastructure that we have today is capable of sustaining large scale deployment of troops for prolonged periods. This was something which we didn't have in 62, back then there was a jeep track to tawang , today we have 3 divisons in that sector and two double lane highways ( BCT road and OKSRT road ) along with two tunnels to keep our lines of communication secure . We have a network of ALGs all along the forward areas , we have 2 lane highways running rught upto the LAC , we are setting up tunnels and logistics bases all along the frontier . we have setup advanced military communications under ASCON phase IV and deployed an equivalent to 16 divisions have been oriented towards china. More funds are being allocated to BRO for quick construction of strategic roads and assets along the sino indian border
 

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Resources and infrastructure that we have today is capable of sustaining large scale deployment of troops for prolonged periods. This was something which we didn't have in 62, back then there was a jeep track to tawang , today we have 3 divisons in that sector and two double lane highways ( BCT road and OKSRT road ) along with two tunnels to keep our lines of communication secure . We have a network of ALGs all along the forward areas , we have 2 lane highways running rught upto the LAC , we are setting up tunnels and logistics bases all along the frontier . we have setup advanced military communications under ASCON phase IV and deployed an equivalent to 16 divisions have been oriented towards china. More funds are being allocated to BRO for quick construction of strategic roads and assets along the sino indian border
China is literally in an advantageous position to hold Aksai. Many blind delusionalists who want to sacrifice 1,000+ minimum Indian soldiers to take back this barren land don’t know that not only is logistics hard for us to maintain in that region, but they are geogrpahically in an advantageous position in Ladakh.

Best we forget about muh Aksai, a barren wasteland with literally 0 population,FOCUS ON- MAJOR EDIT- and Arunachal.
 

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China has still not completed all of their infrastructure projects in Tibbet many are still under planning stage I was thinking what would be the capability of China to influence Nepal and North Eastern Region Of India once they have completed all the infrastructure projects
Influence in what sense? Positive/cultural influence, influence by trade, or negative influence, by military encroachment and bullying ?

If you are dreaming of the first part, that China will somehow make Nepal a wonderland of development and economic riches, then you must get into the line behind Pakistan, because they have been waiting for more than 20 years now.

That’s overconfidence
War is fought with resources and Infrastructure not with bragging Nehru Lost 1962 in the same delusion because he had no idea about war
And you fathom we don't have resources and infrastructure ? Did we lose the 1962 war because we did not have resources or infrastructure ? Our economy was bigger than that of China during that time !

We lost the 1962 war because of incompetent leaders, delayed decisions, and a lack of willpower and commitment.

China is literally in an advantageous position to hold Aksai. Many blind delusionalists who want to sacrifice 1,000+ minimum Indian soldiers to take back this barren land don’t know that not only is logistics hard for us to maintain in that region, but they are geogrpahically in an advantageous position in Ladakh.

Best we forget about muh Aksai, a barren wasteland with literally 0 population,FOCUS ON- MAJOR EDIT- and Arunachal.
No one is trying to attack Aksai Hind.
 

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Influence in what sense? Positive/cultural influence, influence by trade, or negative influence, by military encroachment and bullying ?

If you are dreaming of the first part, that China will somehow make Nepal a wonderland of development and economic riches, then you must get into the line behind Pakistan, because they have been waiting for more than 20 years now.



And you fathom we don't have resources and infrastructure ? Did we lose the 1962 war because we did not have resources or infrastructure ? Our economy was bigger than that of China during that time !

We lost the 1962 war because of incompetent leaders, delayed decisions, and a lack of willpower and commitment.



No one is trying to attack Aksai Hind.
I hope not. In Arunachal, a state they fully claim, is where we have to place our cards now. It’s seems that they are consolidating Aksai.
 

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China is literally in an advantageous position to hold Aksai. Many blind delusionalists who want to sacrifice 1,000+ minimum Indian soldiers to take back this barren land don’t know that not only is logistics hard for us to maintain in that region, but they are geogrpahically in an advantageous position in Ladakh.

Best we forget about muh Aksai, a barren wasteland with literally 0 population,FOCUS ON- MAJOR EDIT- and Arunachal.
Lol , when did I say we should take aksai chin ? Dude are you even reading what I am writing ?
 

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Influence in what sense? Positive/cultural influence, influence by trade, or negative influence, by military encroachment and bullying ?

If you are dreaming of the first part, that China will somehow make Nepal a wonderland of development and economic riches, then you must get into the line behind Pakistan, because they have been waiting for more than 20 years now.



And you fathom we don't have resources and infrastructure ? Did we lose the 1962 war because we did not have resources or infrastructure ? Our economy was bigger than that of China during that time !

We lost the 1962 war because of incompetent leaders, delayed decisions, and a lack of willpower and commitment.



No one is trying to attack Aksai Hind.
you lost 1962 because your politicians never believed that they can win though the infrastructure has improved (still nowhere near china) the mentality still persists
and this mentality is the primary reason why india doesnt have the infrastructure anywhere comparable to China , ASEAN , Japan , Korea.
The fact is that indian policymakers never believed that its possible to connect tibbet with railways and roadways while the chinese were already working on it they failed multiple times and finally succeeded while india on the other hand still believes that its not possible to make railways in north east.
i have read that it was very difficult to convince people in india that leprosy can be cured because people didnt belive it
many people in India (who have been cured of leprosy) still dont believe that its possible to cure leprosy this mentality is reflected here on this forum as well it is something very unique about indian subcontinent you wont find it anwhere else in the world.
 

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you lost 1962 because your politicians never believed that they can win though the infrastructure has improved (still nowhere near china) the mentality still persists
and this mentality is the primary reason why india doesnt have the infrastructure anywhere comparable to China , ASEAN , Japan , Korea.
I have literally never heard or read anything like this before. Belief? First, Nehru was an overconfident narcissist drowned in hedonism and debauchery. He neither had the leadership qualities nor guts to fight and take on a big crisis.

He was drowned in his own delusions.
  • He thought just because he kissed the Chinese ass and recognized Tibet, India-China will be the best brothers.
  • When he heard China actually attacked us, he outrightly denied accepting the news, terming it as a misunderstanding.
  • When our military generals insisted on fighting back, they did not allocate the required funds, manpower, and firepower.
  • We lost literally due to a lack of bullets to fire at waves of Chinese. Our soldiers froze and starved in cold due to a lack of clothing and food.
It was a war that Nehru did not want to fight.

The fact is that indian policymakers never believed that its possible to connect tibbet with railways and roadways while the chinese were already working on it they failed multiple times and finally succeeded while india on the other hand still believes that its not possible to make railways in north east.
You are making no sense. Why would Indian policymakers think of connecting Tibet with Railway? It's like saying Indian policymakers did not think about building Panama canal. Even China completed Tibetian railway link to Lhasa in 2001.

Meanwhile, no one said India did not believe we cannot make a railway in NE. NE is connected with railway way before Indian Independence so I am not sure what are you exactly trying to say?

i have read that it was very difficult to convince people in india that leprosy can be cured because people didnt belive it
many people in India (who have been cured of leprosy) still dont believe that its possible to cure leprosy this mentality is reflected here on this forum as well it is something very unique about indian subcontinent you wont find it anwhere else in the world.
:bplease: Leprosy? Man, this is an absolute strawman argument.

You realize Nepal too falls under the Indian subcontinent right?
 

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I have literally never heard or read anything like this before. Belief? First, Nehru was an overconfident narcissist drowned in hedonism and debauchery. He neither had the leadership qualities nor guts to fight and take on a big crisis.

He was drowned in his own delusions.
  • He thought just because he kissed the Chinese ass and recognized Tibet, India-China will be the best brothers.
  • When he heard China actually attacked us, he outrightly denied accepting the news, terming it as a misunderstanding.
  • When our military generals insisted on fighting back, they did not allocate the required funds, manpower, and firepower.
  • We lost literally due to a lack of bullets to fire at waves of Chinese. Our soldiers froze and starved in cold due to a lack of clothing and food.
It was a war that Nehru did not want to fight.



You are making no sense. Why would Indian policymakers think of connecting Tibet with Railway? It's like saying Indian policymakers did not think about building Panama canal. Even China completed Tibetian railway link to Lhasa in 2001.

Meanwhile, no one said India did not believe we cannot make a railway in NE. NE is connected with railway way before Indian Independence so I am not sure what are you exactly trying to say?



:bplease: Leprosy? Man, this is an absolute strawman argument.

You realize Nepal too falls under the Indian subcontinent right?
His forward policy was moronic. Some Indian generals themselves were questioning the legality of some of the posts that were established, like Dhola for example. China had the geographical advantage in Aksai, and section sized localities couldn’t match them.
 

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you lost 1962 because your politicians never believed that they can win though the infrastructure has improved (still nowhere near china) the mentality still persists
and this mentality is the primary reason why india doesnt have the infrastructure anywhere comparable to China , ASEAN , Japan , Korea.
The fact is that indian policymakers never believed that its possible to connect tibbet with railways and roadways while the chinese were already working on it they failed multiple times and finally succeeded while india on the other hand still believes that its not possible to make railways in north east.
i have read that it was very difficult to convince people in india that leprosy can be cured because people didnt belive it
many people in India (who have been cured of leprosy) still dont believe that its possible to cure leprosy this mentality is reflected here on this forum as well it is something very unique about indian subcontinent you wont find it anwhere else in the world.
The truth is, currently India is economically and militarily strong enough to challenge China in Tibet, and we have proven it in action in the last few years.

We literally had the policy of keeping border areas unhabitable and underdeveloped, because we were 100% sure we couldn't stop China, so rather stall them with inhospitable terrain.

From there, now we have become confident that we can conventionally tackle them, hence we are building border infrastructure at an expedited pace. I am not sure what is better confirmation of our "confidence" or "belief" that we can fight China, and not only fight, we will protect our brothers (Nepal and Bhutan) from any Chinese aggression as well if they request us to.
 

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The truth is, currently India is economically and militarily strong enough to challenge China in Tibet, and we have proven it in action in the last few years.

We literally had the policy of keeping border areas unhabitable and underdeveloped, because we were 100% sure we couldn't stop China, so rather stall them with inhospitable terrain.

From there, now we have become confident that we can conventionally tackle them, hence we are building border infrastructure at an expedited pace. I am not sure what is better confirmation of our "confidence" or "belief" that we can fight China, and not only fight, we will protect our brothers (Nepal and Bhutan) from any Chinese aggression as well if they request us to.
Even I have seen many articles that our infra in ladakh is increasing manifold times like something 5years work done in few months
According to u which particular infra which completed or will be completed in short time is very important on POV of ladakh border
And even those infra which is being built do fast is being challenged by chinese or not
 

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Even I have seen many articles that our infra in ladakh is increasing manifold times like something 5years work done in few months
According to u which particular infra which completed or will be completed in short time is very important on POV of ladakh border
And even those infra which is being built do fast is being challenged by chinese or not
That list is too long. In general, double lane road connectivity to all border areas, and permanent bridges that can support > 70T weight (can move tanks). Electricity and mobile network connections are the second thing that is indirectly very significant.
 

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