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If the Chinese launch a full assault with all of their might, do we have enough firepower or nukes to launch an attack and bring end to the China story ensuring there remains no China on Earth?

I am just thinking of a worst case scenario. Can we ensure that even if we perish in the fight for justness, we take China and its communism along with us? No China rising again, no dragon to breath fire again ever?

How many nukes do we have? 120 to 140? Is it enough to turn all of China into smoke?

Is it possible for the Chinese to be the first to launch surprise (nuclear) attacks preventing us from retaliating?

Should we not rephrase our "no first use" policy to exclude the Communists?

I don't want a war or conflict with China but their uncontrolled ambitions along with their rise as new superpower means they are gonna be tempted to use their might whenever they can. I just want them erased if they don't respect the reasonable boundaries, though we may have to pay similar price for standing upto them.
 

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Not joking yo the nearest Part of G219 is 88 km away from black top obstructed by several big and small mountain ranges. He maybe talking about the Peripheral road leading up to G219.
It's Near from Demchok 30 km
We actually Control dominating Height there
 

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If the Chinese launch a full assault with all of their might, do we have enough firepower or nukes to launch an attack and bring end to the China story ensuring there remains no China on Earth?

I am just thinking of a worst case scenario. Can we ensure that even if we perish in the fight for justness, we take China and its communism along with us? No China rising again, no dragon to breath fire again ever?

How many nukes do we have? 120 to 140? Is it enough to turn all of China into smoke?

Is it possible for the Chinese to be the first to launch surprise (nuclear) attacks preventing us from retaliating?

Should we not rephrase our "no first use" policy to exclude the Communists?

I don't want a war or conflict with China but their uncontrolled ambitions along with their rise as new superpower means they are gonna be tempted to use their might whenever they can. I just want them erased if they don't respect the reasonable boundaries, though we may have to pay similar price for standing upto them.
We have weapon Grade HEU for 500 + thermonuclear warheads and 400 + plutonium grade Fission boosted warheads

Is upto political class to Manufacture more warheads

Weapon grade HEU & Tritium has no Shortage
 

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Also we should discuss our conflicts in public rather than limiting it behind the scenes and turn public opinion in our support. We should also learn Chinese meanwhile so we can better interact with common Chinese civillians and understand the common perception there while sharing ours with them.
 

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Not sure if this was posted earlier.
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...-move-against-china?__twitter_impression=true

India Captured Strategic Outposts in Stealth Move Against China
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Sudhi Ranjan Sen
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Archana Chaudhary
September 2, 2020, 6:38 AM EDTUpdated on September 2, 2020, 7:47 PM EDT
  • Forces occupy hill top to thwart Chinese retaliation
  • China says Indian forces crossed border in the disputed region
Indian army convoy carrying reinforcements and supplies, drive towards Leh, on Sept. 2.

Indian army convoy carrying reinforcements and supplies, drive towards Leh, on Sept. 2. Photographer: Yawar Nazir/Getty Images

India triggered the latest clash with China on their Himalayan border by executing a stealth night-time operation to claim strategic outposts offering a clear view of troop movements in disputed territory, according to Indian officials with knowledge of the matter.
In what they called India’s first offensive move since the conflict began in May, thousands of soldiers climbed up mountain peaks for about six hours to claim the vantage points along the south bank of Pangong Tso -- a glacial lake roughly the size of Singapore. The action was taken to counter what India saw an intrusion by Chinese forces, the officials said, asking not to be identified due to rules on speaking to the media.

The decision to capture high ground that was previously unoccupied along the 3,488 kilometer (2,162 mile) Line of Actual Control revived a conflict that had been largely dormant since June. Back then, India and China’s worst dispute in four decades culminated in the death of 20 Indian soldiers and an unknown number of Chinese soldiers in an ugly battle.

Indian and Chinese Troops Face-off Along The Disputed Himalayan Border

Indian army convoy carrying reinforcements and supplies, drive towards Leh, on Sept. 2.
Photographer: Yawar Nazir/Getty Images
The conflict has prompted economic ties to deteriorate, with India limiting Chinese investments, tightening scrutiny on visas and moving to keep Huawei Technologies Co. out of 5G networks. India on late Wednesday banned 118 Chinese apps including Tencent Holdings Ltd.’s wildly-popular game PUBG Mobile Lite and payments service Alipay, following up on its June ban of several applications including ByteDance Ltd.’s viral short-video service TikTok.



China on Wednesday accused India of breaching agreements between the two sides and unilaterally changing the status quo. An Indian Army spokesman wasn’t immediately available for a comment.

“In China, we have a saying about a guilty man protesting conspicuously his innocence,” Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying told reporters in Beijing. “That’s just what India did.”

Two meetings between senior Indian and Chinese military personnel since the weekend have ended in a deadlock, but commanders from both sides continued to engage each other on Wednesday. While India denied that troops crossed the Line of Control, the move will prevent China from easily monitoring an Indian road that’s crucial for transporting supplies, soldiers and heavy artillery to forward posts along the disputed border.

Both India and China have moved thousands of troops, tanks, artillery guns and fighter jets close to the border since their standoff began in May. But India’s move over the weekend escalated the conflict, said Jayadeva Ranade, a member of the National Security Advisory Board.

“The Indian military move on along the border is defensive but has element of deterrence as well,” said Ranade, who also heads the New Delhi-based think tank China Analysis and Strategy. India is now waiting to see how China reacts, including any moves to counter the deployment that could result in hostilities, he said.

Within China, the appetite for more aggressive moves appears to be growing. A joint survey launched by the Communist Party-run Global Times and the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, a research group affiliated with the Ministry of State Security, found more than 70% of the nearly 2,000 people surveyed believed India was being too hostile against China. Nearly 90% supported the government in retaliating strongly against Indian provocations.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi “faces a damaging loss of face” if he doesn’t react strongly to Chinese moves on the border particularly after investing so much political capital in boosting ties with President Xi Jinping, according to Brahma Chellaney, a former adviser to India’s National Security Council and professor of strategic studies at the Centre for Policy Research in New Delhi.“The latest skirmishes underscore the growing risks of a Himalayan military conflict,” he said.
 

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We have weapon Grade HEU for 500 + thermonuclear warheads and 400 + plutonium grade Fission boosted warheads

Is upto political class to Manufacture more warheads

Weapon grade HEU & Tritium has no Shortage
we started and sped up production 5-6 years ago only for Thermonuclear weapons... if sm1 remembers of Indian thermonuclear production town.
I think we already be in range of 100 or so citybuster thermonukes..
rest before that we had similar number of fission warheads and some for penetration strikes..
so I think we shud cover Han hearlands all urban centres and for aftershock penetration warhead strikes on major dams...

Mutual Assured Destruction if ever it comes to that..

conventionally we dont have matching numbers but Himalayan terrain gives us more than enough advantage to absorb hits... Chinese dont want contact war thats for sure otherwise war would have started already they r looking for some gulf war spectacle...
but they will get Indo Pak LOC scenario for many years to come.
 

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Do all militray aircraft landings in India necessarily mean they have brought some weapons?
What else bro ? No one is going to waste that amount of money for leisure trip.

Likely ASRAAM from their stock.

Can someone confirm if delivery of 384 ASRAAM is completed ?

What else it might have ?

Edit: Someone just posted it was bound for Nepal / carrying Gurkha Soldiers.
 

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we started and sped up production 5-6 years ago only for Thermonuclear weapons... if sm1 remembers of Indian thermonuclear production town.
I think we already be in range of 100 or so citybuster thermonukes..
rest before that we had similar number of fission warheads and some for penetration strikes..
so I think we shud cover Han hearlands all urban centres and for aftershock penetration warhead strikes on major dams...

Mutual Assured Destruction if ever it comes to that..

conventionally we dont have matching numbers but Himalayan terrain gives us more than enough advantage to absorb hits... Chinese dont want contact war thats for sure otherwise war would have started already they r looking for some gulf war spectacle...
but they will get Indo Pak LOC scenario for many years to come.
We Already had Separated Weapon grade HEU

And Similar Plutonium Warhead

Are Weapon grade HEU And Plutonium Stock-pickle estimation in 2014
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As @Mikesingh pointed out, that (G219) should've been our border ideally, if not for the crooked family at helm. Manasarovar had a couple of villages paying us taxes till Lmao annexed Aksai.
The wakhan corridor is British Indian territory ceded to Afghans to separate the Russian and Britshits sphere of Influence during the Great Game.
Even British did not control that and British did not even have proper control till Johnson line
 
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