India-China 2020 Border conflict

[EarthCitizen]

 

[Apollo]

Building hundreds of civilian settlements very near to a military border post is a psychological warfare by CCP. Slowly and steadily CCPs massive "civilian" relocation drive seen, this enables PLA a concrete claim over the land and locals act as first surveillance body.
Question, is GOI planning to build up similar infrastructure & relocate local population into border areas or succumb to chinese pressure

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

So people of Turkish, Pakistanis and Chinese descent, living in the West are to be praised for their loyalty to their mother countries - and corresponding disloyalty to their host countries?

And this loyalty to their mother country is generally lacking in immigrants of Indian descent living in the West?

In this important respect- the diaspora to serve national interests- Muslim Turks and Pakistanis or Communist Chinese have proved much more admirable and worthy of emulation than Hindus . So, Indians or people of Indian descent should strive to achieve this by diligently studying the cultures, societies and political systems of Muslims and Communists ?

Interesting. Not often you see regulars on this forum generously praising Muslims or Communists..

The muslims of pakistan are doing it because they have nothing else and they act like bots without any personality except spreading the memes of islam/pak.but it has disadvantages in that in every other aspect they will be a liability including if they come back to pak.

The chinese model is better as each chinese individual though loyal to the country individually does not arouse suspicions as they have the stats of model citizens and also they are not a burden to the country and so can be reimported back to the country as they can be good human resources.not to mention the chinese approach is systematic and comes from the way things are run in china while the pak diaspora is mostly acting that way due to programming of islam rather than pak state which gives you drones that are just 2 steps away from the standard Isis mentality and the Pakis who are free will not utter a word due to strong anti apostacy measures in the islamic source code.

 

[Akula]

Building hundreds of civilian settlements very near to a military border post is a psychological warfare by CCP. Slowly and steadily CCPs massive "civilian" relocation drive seen, this enables PLA a concrete claim over the land and locals act as first surveillance body.
Question, is GOI planning to build up similar infrastructure & relocate local population into border areas or succumb to chinese pressure

Someone on twitter claim that we don't allow herders near border areas.

 

[Akula]

Building hundreds of civilian settlements very near to a military border post is a psychological warfare by CCP. Slowly and steadily CCPs massive "civilian" relocation drive seen, this enables PLA a concrete claim over the land and locals act as first surveillance body.
Question, is GOI planning to build up similar infrastructure & relocate local population into border areas or succumb to chinese pressure

Imagine India building similar villages near border. First thing after hearing this news will be NGT notice, then so-called environmentalists for protest and then petitions in Supreme court.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Huh, so this is the situation in the valley of Subanshiri river tributary.

Chinese had a strong presence since quite early times in this valley. As far as 2001 satellite images show China had a 2-lane highway as deep as 5km inside the McMohan line.

No action was taken by GoI in the next 15 years to improve any connectivity to this valley, and the Chinese kept nibbling away more and more.
The latest satellite imagery (from 2017) shows the nearest Indian village at least 19km from the McMohan line.

So yeah, we have practically lost nearly 10km (or more) valley area since 1962, or if you presume it was never ours, then that will be true, too.

Shall we try to take the valley back? IMO, no. The valley is very isolated and has no strategic significance, as well as any significant natural resources to profit. Chinese have a very strong presence and it will be a hell of a task to dismantle them from the valley.

 

[Deadtrap]

Huh, so this is the situation in the valley of Subanshiri river tributary.

Chinese had a strong presence since quite early times in this valley. As far as 2001 satellite images show China had a 2-lane highway as deep as 5km inside the McMohan line.

No action was taken by GoI in the next 15 years to improve any connectivity to this valley, and the Chinese kept nibbling away more and more.
The latest satellite imagery (from 2017) shows the nearest Indian village at least 19km from the McMohan line.

So yeah, we have practically lost nearly 10km (or more) valley area since 1962, or if you presume it was never ours, then that will be true, too.

Shall we try to take the valley back? IMO, no. The valley is very isolated and has no strategic significance, as well as any significant natural resources to profit. Chinese have a very strong presence and it will be a hell of a task to dismantle them from the valley.

Hi, Did you make that Image? The last Chinese village is actually an Indian forward post called 'New Maja Post' (28.5614053, 93.4283509) and it is supplied through Bidak and Galemo post in the rear. All 3 post are air maintained only.

 

[Deadtrap]

The valley is very isolated and has no strategic significance

The only significance of this place is in Tibetian Buddhism. Wrote abt it in October. Can be read here

India-China 2020 Border conflict

Our 50 paisa army is doing alright...:hehe: :truestory: Oh man!!!! This is Gold Standard. :pound::pound::hail::hail::clap2::clap2:

defenceforumindia.com

Blue Line is Chinese LAC, Yellow line is McMohan and Red is Google Earth Boundary.

 

[desicanuk]

Exclusive: China Sets Up 3 Villages Near Arunachal, Relocates Villagers

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/exc...arunachal-pradesh-relocates-villagers-2334869

China Attempts to Reinforce Territorial Claims, Constructs 3 Villages Near Arunachal Pradesh: Report

China Attempts to Reinforce Territorial Claims, Constructs 3 Villages Near Arunachal Pradesh: Report

China claims Arunachal Pradesh as part of south Tibet which is firmly rejected by India. Amid this, the construction could be seen as an attempt by China to reinforce its territorial claims.

www.india.com

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[desicanuk]

I hadnt heard about this till:
China Has Built Village In Arunachal Pradesh, Show Satellite Images: Exclusive (ndtv.com)
Any Comments from members?

 

[FalconSlayers]

I hadnt heard about this till:
China Has Built Village In Arunachal Pradesh, Show Satellite Images: Exclusive (ndtv.com)
Any Comments from members?

 

[mokoman]

The only significance of this place is in Tibetian Buddhism. Wrote abt it in October. Can be read here

India-China 2020 Border conflict

Our 50 paisa army is doing alright...:hehe: :truestory: Oh man!!!! This is Gold Standard. :pound::pound::hail::hail::clap2::clap2:

defenceforumindia.com

Blue Line is Chinese LAC, Yellow line is McMohan and Red is Google Earth Boundary.

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The only significance of this place is in Tibetian Buddhism

I guessing that itself makes it very important to the Chinese .

Meanwhile GOI be

 

[Deadtrap]

The only significance of this place is in Tibetian Buddhism

I guessing that itself makes it very important to the Chinese .

Whole significance of AP for Chinese is due to Tibetan Buddhism.

 

[mokoman]

Arunachal Pradesh news: MEA reacts to reports of Chinese construction in Arunachal Pradesh | India News - Times of India

India News: The ministry of external affairs acknowledged reports of fresh Chinese construction activity along the LAC in Arunachal Pradesh. "We have seen recent

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Dont worry boys MEA has taken note of new developments

The MEA said that government is keeping a constant watch on all such developments and would take necessary measures to safeguard the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Whole significance of AP for Chinese is due to Tibetan Buddhism.

Was AP part of Tibet ?

I read that Tawang was administered by Lhasa , a part of Tibet .

now its in India . i bet chinese are really happy that 2nd largest Tibetean monastery is in India.

We can thank McMahon for that

Spoiler

him and undertaker were my favourite.

 

[Kumata]

I think this is real threat now .. hoping bat munchers do not fancy their chances but the way eleven is thinking ... over confidence might do him in...

Bigger Q - Should we use this opportunity to take back POK / Akashai and cut off Belt stupidity. this gives us direct access to Afghanistan as well ... so strategically , it makes tons of sense...

Mover over opening out front will significantly split the chinese resources.. Abduls will hardly last 2-3 days once we have navy in picture ...

 

[shade]

I think this is real threat now .. hoping bat munchers do not fancy their chances but the way eleven is thinking ... over confidence might do him in...

Bigger Q - Should we use this opportunity to take back POK / Akashai and cut off Belt stupidity. this gives us direct access to Afghanistan as well ... so strategically , it makes tons of sense...

Mover over opening out front will significantly split the chinese resources.. Abduls will hardly last 2-3 days once we have navy in picture ...

Most of the forum's reply to this will be below.

In reality it will be yet another defensive war like Kargil, and the aggressors getting away far too easily, and this is including Budhen putting pressure on us to stop the war as if we are in the wrong.

 

[Apollo]

 

[Deadtrap]

But you will have to give it to the Chinese. Bastards were able to develop it in 5-6 months. All started simultaneously with the standoff in Ladakh.




Also don’t be shocked if more such villages pops up during next summer campaign in other parts of AP and Ladakh where Chinese post are inside Indian version of Border (McMohan) given Xi chaired a high level meeting last year where he emphasised on “Strengthening borders” in Tibet region. Strengthening can only be done by setting up more such ghost towns. They refer it is Poverty Alleviation Villages.

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

But you will have to give it to the Chinese. Bastards were able to develop it in 5-6 months. All started simultaneously with the standoff in Ladakh.




Also don’t be shocked if more such villages pops up during next summer campaign in other parts of AP and Ladakh where Chinese post are inside Indian version of Border (McMohan) given Xi chaired a high level meeting last year where he emphasised on “Strengthening borders” in Tibet region. Strengthening can only be done by setting up more such ghost towns. They refer it is Poverty Alleviation Villages.

relax bro , you are saying like this is a new thing. They have been slicing since decades. pretty much in evey standoff with chinese we have lost lands or access to the land.